I think I told this story before. In 8th grade a teacher was gonna cane a bunch of us. It was at the end of school, and I don't even remember what we did. He had us wait in our classroom while he went away and did something, and by the time he got back there was almost no one left at school. This was instigated by one kid, but we all bought in. We said no. We told him you could, we won't fight you on it, and we'll take our beating; we'll take all our beatings for the rest of the year. But we know where your kids live, and this is our last year at this school. We'll make their lives in the neighborhood hell. They'll take every beating you give us, and and what are you gonna do about it? He let us go, and we were shitbags in his classes for the rest of the year.
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spacekungfumanPoor and minority-filledRegistered User, __BANNED USERSregular
Also, let's be honest here. The most important thing about grades is them being high so you can get into a good college. I think it is totally understandable when parents fight for heir kids to have higher grades, because regardless of how a kid did on a math test, their entire future matters more than mastery of the material. We have a bad system right now, but how can you blame parents for wanting their kids to succeed in the job market?
What you do and how you learn in grade school create habits that can affect the rest of your life. For example, teachers are taught not to compliment a successful student for being smart, but to compliment them for their hard work. There are plenty of studies that show that the "hard-working" kid will be more successful than the "smart" kid, because the smart kid will assume they can just coast and rely on their brains.
It makes sense to want your kid to do well in school, but you should do so by getting them to work hard and to establish good habits. If your kid only has great grades because you bullied their teachers, then they're not going to be in a position to really take advantage of that opportunity. Even worse, you're potentially taking up a spot at that school that could've gone to a kid who actually deserved it.
What does "deserved" mean when kids get in on non-academic qualifications like sports ability all the time? If a kid gets into a good college for throwing a ball well, I see nothing wrong with another kid getting in because his parents were persuasive.
I learned to coast in elementary school and it's a problem that will continue to haunt me the rest of my life.
-_-
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
i think we probably go to where we are, at least partially, due to overemphazing arbitrary benchmarks like grades over actually knowing the material
I agree. But what parent is going to let their kid suffer over a principled stance?
So academic "success" should be predicated on who has the parents who can apply the most pressure to a school to give their kids fake good grades?
I mean, I'm not surprised that you'd be OK with that because it would work out well for you personally. But it's obviously no good for society.
Not should. I think the current system sucks. But you have to work with what you have. Under the current system, your kid having high grades is the most important thing. That is really unfortunate. But it kind of is what it is.
Also, let's be honest here. The most important thing about grades is them being high so you can get into a good college. I think it is totally understandable when parents fight for heir kids to have higher grades, because regardless of how a kid did on a math test, their entire future matters more than mastery of the material. We have a bad system right now, but how can you blame parents for wanting their kids to succeed in the job market?
What you do and how you learn in grade school create habits that can affect the rest of your life. For example, teachers are taught not to compliment a successful student for being smart, but to compliment them for their hard work. There are plenty of studies that show that the "hard-working" kid will be more successful than the "smart" kid, because the smart kid will assume they can just coast and rely on their brains.
It makes sense to want your kid to do well in school, but you should do so by getting them to work hard and to establish good habits. If your kid only has great grades because you bullied their teachers, then they're not going to be in a position to really take advantage of that opportunity. Even worse, you're potentially taking up a spot at that school that could've gone to a kid who actually deserved it.
What does "deserved" mean when kids get in on non-academic qualifications like sports ability all the time? If a kid gets into a good college for throwing a ball well, I see nothing wrong with another kid getting in because his parents were rich.
Fixed for accuracy.
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Donkey KongPutting Nintendo out of business with AI nipsRegistered Userregular
I just caved and ate lunch because I didn't feel good.
rip thigh gap dreams
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tho that nonsense passive aggression BS isn't my issue but it also is stupid, bowen
Yeah g/f used to get the "you owe me your life" routine a lot.
Like, g/f should be lavishing her mother with gifts and shit.
A few christmases ago she got sick of hearing it and said something like, "I'm not going to apologize for being a child or being born, those were your decisions. If I was a terrible child, that's on you, you raised me. I don't want to hear about it again and I don't want to hear how my brother and sister both apologized for it."
I'm paraphrasing a 40 minute lash out fest on christmas though.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
Mental abuse feels so much worse than physical abuse.
A wound heals, scars make you unique. Mental wounds never really heal and it's hard to see the damage, and people tend to keep picking at them and eventually the person blows up because everyone has a breaking point.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Also, let's be honest here. The most important thing about grades is them being high so you can get into a good college. I think it is totally understandable when parents fight for heir kids to have higher grades, because regardless of how a kid did on a math test, their entire future matters more than mastery of the material. We have a bad system right now, but how can you blame parents for wanting their kids to succeed in the job market?
What you do and how you learn in grade school create habits that can affect the rest of your life. For example, teachers are taught not to compliment a successful student for being smart, but to compliment them for their hard work. There are plenty of studies that show that the "hard-working" kid will be more successful than the "smart" kid, because the smart kid will assume they can just coast and rely on their brains.
It makes sense to want your kid to do well in school, but you should do so by getting them to work hard and to establish good habits. If your kid only has great grades because you bullied their teachers, then they're not going to be in a position to really take advantage of that opportunity. Even worse, you're potentially taking up a spot at that school that could've gone to a kid who actually deserved it.
What does "deserved" mean when kids get in on non-academic qualifications like sports ability all the time? If a kid gets into a good college for throwing a ball well, I see nothing wrong with another kid getting in because his parents were persuasive.
Should dim children of smart parents get into good schools on the academic achievements of their parents?
Wealth? Social status?
At least an athletic accomplishment belongs to the student. What you're talking about just amounts to "Well since I'm a lawyer I can probably brow beat my kid into Harvard even if he has downs syndrome."
i have finally found a gripe about living in the city
i will not be able to age my own bordeaux
i guess i'll just have to embark on a wildly successful career so that i can afford a place in the city and nice place in the country with my own wine cellar
Wine fridge!
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Donkey KongPutting Nintendo out of business with AI nipsRegistered Userregular
i think we probably go to where we are, at least partially, due to overemphazing arbitrary benchmarks like grades over actually knowing the material
I agree. But what parent is going to let their kid suffer over a principled stance?
So academic "success" should be predicated on who has the parents who can apply the most pressure to a school to give their kids fake good grades?
I mean, I'm not surprised that you'd be OK with that because it would work out well for you personally. But it's obviously no good for society.
This is tremendously uncharitable and honestly kind of pisses me off. Come on, man. He is clearly and unambiguously stating that it's bullshit, it's not how it should be, but because that's the way it is he will do what he can for his kid. Don't be the person who drags down discourse.
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
tho that nonsense passive aggression BS isn't my issue but it also is stupid, bowen
Yeah g/f used to get the "you owe me your life" routine a lot.
Like, g/f should be lavishing her mother with gifts and shit.
A few christmases ago she got sick of hearing it and said something like, "I'm not going to apologize for being a child or being born, those were your decisions. If I was a terrible child, that's on you, you raised me. I don't want to hear about it again and I don't want to hear how my brother and sister both apologized for it."
I'm paraphrasing a 40 minute lash out fest on christmas though.
'you owe me your life' is kinda funny
cause like, as a kid, fuck you, you owe me for bringing me into this miserable world
Like, I'm probably going to have kids but I kinda feel bad about it. The future of society in the next 100 years seems like a serious gamble.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Mental abuse feels so much worse than physical abuse.
A wound heals, scars make you unique. Mental wounds never really heal and it's hard to see the damage, and people tend to keep picking at them and eventually the person blows up because everyone has a breaking point.
They are basically the same thing.
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Orphanerivers of redthat run to seaRegistered Userregular
seriously I was doing just fine in the 14 billion years of sweet oblivion before I got dragged screaming into this world
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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ShivahnUnaware of her barrel shifter privilegeWestern coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderatormod
the last two high profile shootings (charleston and the virginia one) have both been too close for comfort. in both cases I was one degree of separation from someone involved. in the charleston shooting, the guy went to my high school and palled around with my younger brother (plus, the person who called the police for his first trespassing charge was my sister in law)
in the virginia shooting, one of the victims was my buddy's sibling. My buddy's been posting "remembrance" photos all week and it is just heart wrenching
Also, let's be honest here. The most important thing about grades is them being high so you can get into a good college. I think it is totally understandable when parents fight for heir kids to have higher grades, because regardless of how a kid did on a math test, their entire future matters more than mastery of the material. We have a bad system right now, but how can you blame parents for wanting their kids to succeed in the job market?
What you do and how you learn in grade school create habits that can affect the rest of your life. For example, teachers are taught not to compliment a successful student for being smart, but to compliment them for their hard work. There are plenty of studies that show that the "hard-working" kid will be more successful than the "smart" kid, because the smart kid will assume they can just coast and rely on their brains.
It makes sense to want your kid to do well in school, but you should do so by getting them to work hard and to establish good habits. If your kid only has great grades because you bullied their teachers, then they're not going to be in a position to really take advantage of that opportunity. Even worse, you're potentially taking up a spot at that school that could've gone to a kid who actually deserved it.
What does "deserved" mean when kids get in on non-academic qualifications like sports ability all the time? If a kid gets into a good college for throwing a ball well, I see nothing wrong with another kid getting in because his parents were persuasive.
Should dim children of smart parents get into good schools on the academic achievements of their parents?
Wealth? Social status?
At least an athletic accomplishment belongs to the student. What you're talking about just amounts to "Well since I'm a lawyer I can probably brow beat my kid into Harvard even if he has downs syndrome."
It's pathetic.
I've said many times the system is a bad one. I wish it was different. But I cannot blame a parent for doing what is best for their child under the system as it exists.
I am personally on good terms with every member of my family, and the last time I got into a serious argument with one of them I was ill and foul tempered.
However my three sisters and mother all have varying degrees of fireyness, and when two or more are in proximity for a lengthly period there is a chance a tiff will emerge.
It doesn't last long, especially when the one not involved in the tiff is able to root out the inciting point, but it's interesting. Illness aside, I can't recall arguing with my brothers or father past the age of 15.
tho that nonsense passive aggression BS isn't my issue but it also is stupid, bowen
Yeah g/f used to get the "you owe me your life" routine a lot.
Like, g/f should be lavishing her mother with gifts and shit.
A few christmases ago she got sick of hearing it and said something like, "I'm not going to apologize for being a child or being born, those were your decisions. If I was a terrible child, that's on you, you raised me. I don't want to hear about it again and I don't want to hear how my brother and sister both apologized for it."
I'm paraphrasing a 40 minute lash out fest on christmas though.
'you owe me your life' is kinda funny
cause like, as a kid, fuck you, you owe me for bringing me into this miserable world
Like, I'm probably going to have kids but I kinda feel bad about it. The future of society in the next 100 years seems like a serious gamble.
It's baffling as fuck, but that boomer entitlement can get out of control if your husband pays for everything about your life.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
+1
TTODewbackPuts the drawl in ya'llI think I'm in HellRegistered Userregular
You guys got my on a Postmodern Jukebox binge.
Dammit.
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So academic "success" should be predicated on who has the parents who can apply the most pressure to a school to give their kids fake good grades?
I mean, I'm not surprised that you'd be OK with that because it would work out well for you personally. But it's obviously no good for society.
Tons of parents?
Just if the principled stance is "you're bad because you're gay"
What does "deserved" mean when kids get in on non-academic qualifications like sports ability all the time? If a kid gets into a good college for throwing a ball well, I see nothing wrong with another kid getting in because his parents were persuasive.
no it's good! i need to be given a hard time sometimes
though i do feel yesterday was a rare legitimate excuse
(but don't ever take my word for it >.>)
-_-
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
this is some 'cism right here
i am disappoint Neco
now this is my life
#success
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Not should. I think the current system sucks. But you have to work with what you have. Under the current system, your kid having high grades is the most important thing. That is really unfortunate. But it kind of is what it is.
Fixed for accuracy.
rip thigh gap dreams
Hakkes. Darling. There's...there's nothing to get! Do you see now?
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Yeah g/f used to get the "you owe me your life" routine a lot.
Like, g/f should be lavishing her mother with gifts and shit.
A few christmases ago she got sick of hearing it and said something like, "I'm not going to apologize for being a child or being born, those were your decisions. If I was a terrible child, that's on you, you raised me. I don't want to hear about it again and I don't want to hear how my brother and sister both apologized for it."
I'm paraphrasing a 40 minute lash out fest on christmas though.
Were you just gonna not eat lunch?
That strikes me as counterproductive
*yoink*
A wound heals, scars make you unique. Mental wounds never really heal and it's hard to see the damage, and people tend to keep picking at them and eventually the person blows up because everyone has a breaking point.
on a scale of 1 to thigh gap where are back dimples rated?
Should dim children of smart parents get into good schools on the academic achievements of their parents?
Wealth? Social status?
At least an athletic accomplishment belongs to the student. What you're talking about just amounts to "Well since I'm a lawyer I can probably brow beat my kid into Harvard even if he has downs syndrome."
It's pathetic.
Wine fridge!
This is tremendously uncharitable and honestly kind of pisses me off. Come on, man. He is clearly and unambiguously stating that it's bullshit, it's not how it should be, but because that's the way it is he will do what he can for his kid. Don't be the person who drags down discourse.
'you owe me your life' is kinda funny
cause like, as a kid, fuck you, you owe me for bringing me into this miserable world
Like, I'm probably going to have kids but I kinda feel bad about it. The future of society in the next 100 years seems like a serious gamble.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
are you planning to diet your way into being a petite girl?
They are basically the same thing.
I was gonna eat "lunch". The salad with low cal dressing that I brought from home. Instead I went and got human food.
but you're a gorilla.
trix aren't for gorillas trix are for kids!
actually no this is my life
NNID: Hakkekage
on the times when i have the moral high ground and a good excuse i will just endure
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Ah
Yeah it's ok to be a rabbit person, I just thought you were fasting
(I am basically eating nonstop while studying because it dulls the pain)
the last two high profile shootings (charleston and the virginia one) have both been too close for comfort. in both cases I was one degree of separation from someone involved. in the charleston shooting, the guy went to my high school and palled around with my younger brother (plus, the person who called the police for his first trespassing charge was my sister in law)
in the virginia shooting, one of the victims was my buddy's sibling. My buddy's been posting "remembrance" photos all week and it is just heart wrenching
I've said many times the system is a bad one. I wish it was different. But I cannot blame a parent for doing what is best for their child under the system as it exists.
However my three sisters and mother all have varying degrees of fireyness, and when two or more are in proximity for a lengthly period there is a chance a tiff will emerge.
It doesn't last long, especially when the one not involved in the tiff is able to root out the inciting point, but it's interesting. Illness aside, I can't recall arguing with my brothers or father past the age of 15.
WITNESS.
It's baffling as fuck, but that boomer entitlement can get out of control if your husband pays for everything about your life.
Dammit.
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