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[Star Wars X-Wing] Wave 7 and New Core in stores! PA Vassal League Season 3 now forming!

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  • crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    Ken O wrote: »
    Season 1 of Rebels went on sale like 2 weeks ago if you need to catch up.

    Oooh might have to do that. My thought was to sub to XD and stream it online through Comcast.

    I'm afraid if I watch it, I'll have no choice but to pick up all of Wave 8...

    who am I kidding? Wave 8 looks awesome already

  • wonderpugwonderpug Registered User regular
    Ken O wrote: »
    Season 1 of Rebels went on sale like 2 weeks ago if you need to catch up.

    Oooh might have to do that. My thought was to sub to XD and stream it online through Comcast.

    I'm afraid if I watch it, I'll have no choice but to pick up all of Wave 8...

    The Rebels series is by far a better prequel experience than the prequel trilogy. I don't want to spoil too much, but I'll just say a single episode did more to reinforce "he was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior" than all three prequel movies combined.

  • NealnealNealneal Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    I am so excited for the Rebels ships.

    I rewatched all of Season 1 and Siege of Lothal over the Labor Day weekend. (What? I was stuck at home with a one year old while my wife and oldest daughter were at Disney.) I love the change in tone of the series. From a carefree, Robin Hood like beginning, straight through to "Fight it? Ezra, we were lucky to survive," moment in Siege of Lothal.

    I want the Imperial Transport the most. I have loved the look of it from the first time it appeared. I'm hoping the Light Cruiser that showed up in Siege of Lothal will make it in as a Huge Ship later. I really liked the look of it more than I do the Raider.

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Nealneal wrote: »
    I am so excited for the Rebels ships.

    I rewatched all of Season 1 and Siege of Lothal over the Labor Day weekend. (What? I was stuck at home with a one year old while my wife and oldest daughter were at Disney.) I love the change in tone of the series. From a carefree, Robin Hood like beginning, straight through to "Fight it? Ezra, we were lucky to survive," moment in Siege of Lothal.

    I want the Imperial Transport the most. I have loved the look of it from the first time it appeared. I'm hoping the Light Cruiser that showed up in Siege of Lothal will make it in as a Huge Ship later. I really liked the look of it more than I do the Raider.

    The Arquiten class?
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arquitens-class_light_cruiser/Canon

    It's possible, but it's probably too big as a light cruiser. There is no official size listing I can find for it (the fanon estimation is 200/250m), other than smaller than the venerator and bigger than the consular, so somewhere between 1137m and 115m.

    The CR90/Raider are both corvette class for reference.

    Also they really need a scum huge ship still.

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Also they really need a scum huge ship still.

    Action VI, with Talon Karrde as a unique pilot / crewman.

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Yeah, that is my assumption.

    I wonder if it will be able to dock/undock a fighter or if it will use the same rules as the hounds tooth.

  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    The Wilde Karrde is pretty well known, but I'm not sure I want to see it in the corvette/frigate role in Epic.
    Karrde seemed more of a "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" sort of guy.

    While less iconic, these cuties seem well suited to the game;
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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    I dunno, those look too professional military for the pirate faction. I think I still prefer the idea of a modified cargo vessel of some sort, something civilian they tried to turn into a combat vessel.

    Something that can dock/undock their fighters and store the loot they steal.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    I dunno, those look too professional military for the pirate faction. I think I still prefer the idea of a modified cargo vessel of some sort, something civilian they tried to turn into a combat vessel.

    Something that can dock/undock their fighters and store the loot they steal.
    Give them a bright/garish paintjob (already started with that with those big sigils), maybe a couple patches on the hull, and they could look like professional Mercs. I think that could work for the Scum and Villainy faction. S&V already encompasses bounty hunters, pirates, organized criminal organizations... extending that to mercenary forces seems natural. Added bonus of having mercs, maybe they work for the Rebellion or the Empire (for a price) when they're not busy mercing it up.

    I personally think the bigger problem is the huge guns on the right ship. It doesn't feel like Star Wars to have guns that are larger than starfighters on a ship that size.

  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    Fair points.

    If the rest of the faction is anything to go by, maybe we'll see a bit of both smuggler & mercenary/cartel aesthetic in the Scum epic ships.

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2015
    Unrelated, but oh man. Jango Fett used to fly the spruce goose in space, this needs to be a ship that gets made.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaster's_Legacy

    e:
    If they don't go with the Action for the scum epic, they will go with the maurader.

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  • Ken OKen O Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    Unrelated, but oh man. Jango Fett used to fly the spruce goose in space, this needs to be a ship that gets made.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaster's_Legacy

    e:
    If they don't go with the Action for the scum epic, they will go with the maurader.

    I ignore a lot of Jango/Boba/Mandalore stuff so I missed the fact that this exists. I love it. I may have a weakness for seaplanes though...

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    That seaplane would be so awesome. I want that bad.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    One of my most anticipated Kickstarters is finally getting to the shipping stage after way too many delays thanks to overseas manufacturing incompetence.

    Cannot wait for my GripMats. :D

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    I got my Gripmat a while back... I'm guessing you've got a rather large order?

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2015
    Ken O wrote: »
    Morkath wrote: »
    Unrelated, but oh man. Jango Fett used to fly the spruce goose in space, this needs to be a ship that gets made.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jaster's_Legacy

    e:
    If they don't go with the Action for the scum epic, they will go with the maurader.

    I ignore a lot of Jango/Boba/Mandalore stuff so I missed the fact that this exists. I love it. I may have a weakness for seaplanes though...

    Apparently Boba also used it as Slave IV. Increasing chances of getting it!

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/AIAT/i

    Morkath on
  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/16/there-has-been-an-awakening/

    the developers talk a bit about the rule changes/clarifications, and the damage deck specifically

    as someone who has lost multiple tournament matches due to awful munitions failure timing, I'm happy with that reasoning

  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Also a MAJOR change to tournament scoring:
    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/16/enter-a-new-era/

    Large base ships now give up half their points at half HP. So Fat Han lists get a significant nerf, as they can't kill more than the cost of their escorts and then run away for the rest of the game for an auto-win at time out.

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    You know, something I just realized.

    It would have been nice if they had differentiated the damage decks in some way. So you could easily tell the difference betwen the old one and the new one without looking to see what cards were in them.

  • breton-brawlerbreton-brawler Registered User regular
    Morkath wrote: »
    You know, something I just realized.

    It would have been nice if they had differentiated the damage decks in some way. So you could easily tell the difference betwen the old one and the new one without looking to see what cards were in them.

    I think the art on the back of the new damage decks are different.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Since we're getting ships from 30 years after the original trilogy that can be played with the Rebel/Imperial factions, I wonder if there's any chance of Prequel Trilogy ships coming out for the game.
    If they do though, how would you see them getting divided up?

    Republic Army for Imperials or Rebels? I mean, they do eventually turn into the Imperial navy, but they're also supposed to be the good guys in the movies.
    What about the Trade Federation ships? They don't really fit with either Imperial or Rebel forces, I guess I could see them getting tied to S&V (money being their primary motivation and all that).

  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    FFG has stated numerous times that they are not going to do anything solely from the prequels.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    ElderCat wrote: »
    FFG has stated numerous times that they are not going to do anything solely from the prequels.

    They know their audience. Some of us might like a Jedi or Naboo starfighter or a Droid fighter craft, but most people don't give a shit about the prequels.

    There really aren't that many ships to choose from in the prequels anyway. Naboo fighter, Jedi fighter, those Not-X-Wings, two kinds of Droid craft...

  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2015
    I could see the droid fighters working as scum ships, I know it will never happen though.

    e:
    Oh I guess they did change the art work. Slightly.

    The explosion is redder, and the the star is a bit bigger.

    Morkath on
  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    ElderCat wrote: »
    Also a MAJOR change to tournament scoring:
    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/16/enter-a-new-era/

    Large base ships now give up half their points at half HP. So Fat Han lists get a significant nerf, as they can't kill more than the cost of their escorts and then run away for the rest of the game for an auto-win at time out.


    Wooooooow. I honestly felt like TLT spam had driven the big turrets down to acceptable levels already. The new rules seem like they'll drive them out almost entirely.
    I've been rolling my eyes at Fat Han players for two years now, but that's a jackboot to their junk.
    And right before worlds, too.

    I didn't even try to sign up for Worlds this year because I wasn't sure the meta would be worth playing in. Who knew if Wave 7 would hit in time?
    Now I'm really sorry I didn't. It's going to be crazy diverse.
    Wish FFG had made better arrangements for their big event.

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I got my Gripmat a while back... I'm guessing you've got a rather large order?

    Sort-of; I got a couple 36"x36"s, some score trackers, and some sideboards. The 36s I got are all the ones that kept coming through damaged, and I elected to wait for a clean copy rather than take them up on the option of a scratch-and-dent one that would arrive sooner.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    ElderCat wrote: »
    FFG has stated numerous times that they are not going to do anything solely from the prequels.

    They know their audience. Some of us might like a Jedi or Naboo starfighter or a Droid fighter craft, but most people don't give a shit about the prequels.

    There really aren't that many ships to choose from in the prequels anyway. Naboo fighter, Jedi fighter, those Not-X-Wings, two kinds of Droid craft...
    First off, if we're counting ships taken from the prequel trilogy we should consider how many were pulled from the Original Trilogy, that's 6 for the rebels (X,Y,A,B wings, Rebel transport and the Falcon) and 5 Imperial ships (TIE Fighter, Interceptor, Bomber, Advanced and Shuttle). So, there's not a huge amount of selection there to pull from for the original game.

    Second, there are a lot more ships than just those five in the prequel trilogy. And, because I'm a huge nerd and can't stand someone being wrong on the internet about Star Wars...
    Their was the Delta-7, the Eta-2, the LAAT(probably a large ship), v-wing, the ARC-170, Theta class shuttle... I'd guess you could use a Venator as a huge ship unless something else popped up in the Clone Wars series. All of those are from the movies, though I'm fairly certain that most of them also showed up in the Clone Wars series as well. Oh yeah, and the Naboo fighters, and three different chrome ships in assorted sizes.

    On the Trade Federation side, you had the vulture droids, the Tri-fighters, the droid gunships, you could pretty easily make the Trade Federation landing craft into large base support ship. The Geonosian fighters, maybe Darth Maul's Scimitar (not sure if that should be here or on the Republic side...), Grievous's ship of course, Dooku's solar-sailer could work as a support vessel. I'm pretty sure you could get some more era appropriate ships from the Clone Wars series (the Fan-wing fighter in particular would be cool to see). Maybe use the Lucrehulk-class ships as huge ships, though they'd probably be too large for this scale. Maybe just use the core ship or leave them for Armada altogether.

    I personally think it would be cool to see the Jedi fighters in the game. Maybe give them a new resource that they could spend to use the force for cool shit. Use Padawan/Knight for the generic pilots, and with all the named Jedi that flew them you'd have plenty of pilots to fill out a standard expansion and a Jedi Aces pack.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    The ARC-170 was the not-X-wing I was thinking of. I forgot about the V-Wing, as well as the fact that there were two flavors of Jedi fighters.

    The Low Altitude Assault Transport says it all right in its name. It is not a ship for dogfighting in outer space.

  • SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    Would not turn up my nose at some tastefully chosen prequel fighters.
    I'm fond of the Eta-2 and the Belbullab-22. Less fond of most of the rest.

    Edit: Even knowing where it came from...
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    This thing is pure hotness.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    The ARC-170 was the not-X-wing I was thinking of. I forgot about the V-Wing, as well as the fact that there were two flavors of Jedi fighters.

    The Low Altitude Assault Transport says it all right in its name. It is not a ship for dogfighting in outer space.
    Sure, but just because it's a transport doesn't mean it's completely incapable of dogfighting. It's heavily armed with missiles and multiple energy weapon turrets and (at least in later versions) was capable of space flight.

    I mean, technically speaking, the shuttle, the Rebel Transport and the Falcon are all transports as well, and of the three only the shuttle rolled off the assembly lines prepared for any kind of combat.

  • NealnealNealneal Registered User regular
    edited September 2015
    I'd love to see some of the bounty hunter ships from Clone Wars. Cad Bane's fighter Xanadu Blood is one of my favorites as is Sugi's light freighter Halo. More than any other though, I want Deathwatch ships, the Kom'rk fighters.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »

    Okay, those are totally hot.

    And the ARC-170 is a great looking Prequel ship, as are the Jedi Interceptors.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »

    Completely superfluous but also nifty.

  • ElderCatElderCat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    FAQ 3.2.1 is up reversing a few Rulings from yesterday. :?

    https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/2b/63/2b630031-1b35-4b26-b517-e3ee520a6d6e/x-wing_faq_v321.pdf

    Couple things I saw:

    You can perform "Free Actions" on an asteroid again.

    Crackshot triggers in the "Compare Results" step, which is the only time that makes Crackshot worthwhile, because your one use ept is actually guaranteed to do something then.

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    So far docking seems like its going to be kind of meh. Basically a way to get some fragile ships in range without getting shot?

    Also, someone explain this errata;
    Advanced Targeting Computer
    Darth Vader can be equipped with the Advanced Targeting Computer.

    Does that mean he can equip it without using the title, thus getting two system upgrades if you pay the points?

  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    I suspect it means he can be equipped with an upgrade labeled 'TIE Advanced only' despite his ship being titled as a TIE Advanced x1.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    PMAvers wrote: »

    Completely superfluous but also nifty.

    At the minimum, I could see them being handy to keep track of who's ships belong to who easier in same-faction scrums.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    I started playing this a couple weeks ago and I can't stop making new lists and it's real hard to stop myself just from buying every damn thing

  • DaypigeonDaypigeon Registered User regular
    I didn't realize Darth Vader was listed as having a different ship than the other Advanced pilots, that's nuts

    I guess that means there'll probably be a clarification later as to whether or not the Inquisitor's tie can take those upgrades, too?

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