You also have to remember that they are doing non-Kickstarter sales, too. Things like $4.99/episode of classic MST and $149 for 87 episodes. It won't be a huge amount, but it counts towards the goals and isn't published on the KS page. If they very nearly get to the 9-episode threshold, that might be enough to push it over the edge.
Also, it's possible they'll get picked up by someone and get to do more episodes with, say, Netflix or Hulu footing the bill.
Just announced that Patton Oswalt is going to be "TV's Son of TV's Frank". So that happened.
I have mixed feelings. I think he's probably a good pick and does actually look like he could be related to Frank. On the other hand Oswalt is a garbage person and kind of a twit on social media.
Just getting as far as he has with this should be enough to prove to whatever execs Joel has been talking with that the show still has legs. People will watch it and that there's enough demand to go around to everyone. I mean, I'm not giving up my RiffTrax just because the old show is back in a new form. I'll be watching both. And as soon as someone brings Cinematic Titanic to KC I'll be getting in on that as well. Because I think that has to be what most of those cloistered idiots think. That parody and commentary is a small market. That the old show was and will remain a cult hit.
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Just announced that Patton Oswalt is going to be "TV's Son of TV's Frank". So that happened.
I have mixed feelings. I think he's probably a good pick and does actually look like he could be related to Frank. On the other hand Oswalt is a garbage person and kind of a twit on social media.
Wait what? I've heard nothing but good things about Patton Oswalt. What makes him a garbage person?
Joel posted an update today explaining how the writing staff is gonna work, as well as some people they're going to have over to guest write for this season:
Dan Harmon
Justin Roiland
Rob Schrab
Ernie Cline
Pat Rothfuss
Paul & Storm
Dana Gould
Robert Lopez
And a bunch more info about the rewards and such. They're basically on their final stretch to the end now.
Just announced that Patton Oswalt is going to be "TV's Son of TV's Frank". So that happened.
I have mixed feelings. I think he's probably a good pick and does actually look like he could be related to Frank. On the other hand Oswalt is a garbage person and kind of a twit on social media.
Wait what? I've heard nothing but good things about Patton Oswalt. What makes him a garbage person?
His personality on Twitter.
He's a great standup and a good actor but it's hard to enjoy him knowing what he's like there.
Just announced that Patton Oswalt is going to be "TV's Son of TV's Frank". So that happened.
I have mixed feelings. I think he's probably a good pick and does actually look like he could be related to Frank. On the other hand Oswalt is a garbage person and kind of a twit on social media.
Wait what? I've heard nothing but good things about Patton Oswalt. What makes him a garbage person?
His personality on Twitter.
He's a great standup and a good actor but it's hard to enjoy him knowing what he's like there.
My limited experience with him on Twitter is giving jerks and racists a lot of shit. He's very socially conscious and also very political. Personally I've found his tweets pretty hilarious too, speaking specifically about his categorizing of the GOP debate participants as DND characters. I understand why that might make you not want to follow him, but "a garbage person" seems a bit extreme.
Go read up on his big strawman rant on the PC police (seriously like 50+ tweets). The guy honestly can't seem to wrap his head around how insensitive language might be harmful, or how giving offensive material aimed at minorities a free pass legitimizes it.
It's just one example, and it's not going to keep me from watching the show or anything. I just think he's more concerned about getting to say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people than he is about the people who are hurt in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression.
I get where he's coming from when he says that no topic should be off limits in comedy, but his approach of getting angry at backlash when a shitty comedian tells a bad joke and attacking "SJW"s sounds a lot like the reactionaries who encourage non-comedy offensive speech. He may not realize he's doing it but welp.
Go read up on his big strawman rant on the PC police (seriously like 50+ tweets). The guy honestly can't seem to wrap his head around how insensitive language might be harmful, or how giving offensive material aimed at minorities a free pass legitimizes it.
It's just one example, and it's not going to keep me from watching the show or anything. I just think he's more concerned about getting to say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people than he is about the people who are hurt in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression.
Uh, I'm googling but not finding anything I actually disagree with. He's a comedian, saying potentially offensive/funny things is what he does. This is the US, where he should be allowed to "say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people." There's literally an amendment that lets him do that. I disagree with people who say there are some subjects you shouldn't joke about ever at all in any capacity. If handled correctly, anything can be made into a joke. But comedy should also encourage people to laugh with one another, not at each other in an offensive way.
Although I think everyone can agree that writing an essay on Twitter is horrible. Don't write 50 tweets to get out one message holy crap.
Go read up on his big strawman rant on the PC police (seriously like 50+ tweets). The guy honestly can't seem to wrap his head around how insensitive language might be harmful, or how giving offensive material aimed at minorities a free pass legitimizes it.
It's just one example, and it's not going to keep me from watching the show or anything. I just think he's more concerned about getting to say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people than he is about the people who are hurt in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression.
Uh, I'm googling but not finding anything I actually disagree with. He's a comedian, saying potentially offensive/funny things is what he does. This is the US, where he should be allowed to "say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people." There's literally an amendment that lets him do that. I disagree with people who say there are some subjects you shouldn't joke about ever at all in any capacity. If handled correctly, anything can be made into a joke. But comedy should also encourage people to laugh with one another, not at each other in an offensive way.
Although I think everyone can agree that writing an essay on Twitter is horrible. Don't write 50 tweets to get out one message holy crap.
That's not what the 1st amendment does...
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So given the creators of Rick & Morty are signed on as guest writers, and it's been revealed that Pendleton Ward will be showing up during the countdown thingy (as will Justin Roiland who is signed on as a Guest Writer), I wonder if he's slated to show up as a "Guest Appearance" (which they mentioned is being announced tomorrow I think?)
Go read up on his big strawman rant on the PC police (seriously like 50+ tweets). The guy honestly can't seem to wrap his head around how insensitive language might be harmful, or how giving offensive material aimed at minorities a free pass legitimizes it.
It's just one example, and it's not going to keep me from watching the show or anything. I just think he's more concerned about getting to say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people than he is about the people who are hurt in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression.
Uh, I'm googling but not finding anything I actually disagree with. He's a comedian, saying potentially offensive/funny things is what he does. This is the US, where he should be allowed to "say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people." There's literally an amendment that lets him do that. I disagree with people who say there are some subjects you shouldn't joke about ever at all in any capacity. If handled correctly, anything can be made into a joke. But comedy should also encourage people to laugh with one another, not at each other in an offensive way.
Although I think everyone can agree that writing an essay on Twitter is horrible. Don't write 50 tweets to get out one message holy crap.
That's not what the 1st amendment does...
Freedom of Speech is protected by the 1st amendment in the US. His ability to say whatever he wants on twitter without getting arrested by the government is protected by the 1st amendment. Thus, he can say whatever he wants without having to worry about terrible consequences from making a joke about something. Sure, other people can be offended, but he doesn't have to worry about it because they can't do anything just because they're offended. But you're right, it can't prevent people from being offended. I just don't think it makes him "a garbage person" for wanting to be able to joke about whatever. Was there a specific instance where he mocked something and someone got upset? There are cases of that where the person mocking did it insensitively and ruined it, and cases where people are way too uptight about stuff that is clearly a joke. I haven't seen Patton Oswalt doing anything that might hurt people "in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression." Hell I see Patton most making fun of the GOP!
The problem is that he often rants against the people getting offended in the first place. As if a comedian has a free speech right to tell shitty jokes but people who think those jokes are shitty aren't allowed to respond with their own free speech. It's hypocritical. He sees being "PC" as an egregious blow against people's right to say whatever they want, instead of it actually being empathetic to other people's feelings on sensitive issues. I can say whatever I want and if your feelings get hurt then tough shit, i'm the only one who matters in this equation.
The problem is that he often rants against the people getting offended in the first place. As if a comedian has a free speech right to tell shitty jokes but people who think those jokes are shitty aren't allowed to respond with their own free speech. It's hypocritical. He sees being "PC" as an egregious blow against people's right to say whatever they want, instead of it actually being empathetic to other people's feelings on sensitive issues. I can say whatever I want and if your feelings get hurt then tough shit, i'm the only one who matters in this equation.
I have not seen this myself with Oswalt, but I'd agree. You can say whatever you want, but people are allowed to respond! Free speech is for everyone, not just the people who shout the loudest.
And agreed, I am psyched to see MST3K back and hope it is as good as it used to be.
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All I'll say is that if I let celebrities' political views or the stupid shit they say on twitter determine who I watch/enjoy, I probably would eventually run out of celebrities to watch/enjoy :P They have a bad tendency to say stupid shit :P Easier to just ignore the dumbness if they are otherwise funny/entertaining.
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50 hours to go. I'm totally jazzed that we are getting 9 new 'sodes, definitely getting a lot of value for my contribution there. Really hope they get to 12 though. Enough for them to get into their groove and start spinning gold.
I'm pretty sure $4M is going to be enough to get some bigwig to take notice. It doesn't seem like a lot, but that's money raised exclusively by fans, not out of a corporate bank account. There's clear demand for this show. The only other Kickstarter for a TV show that's done better than this is Veronica Mars.
I'm pretty sure $4M is going to be enough to get some bigwig to take notice. It doesn't seem like a lot, but that's money raised exclusively by fans, not out of a corporate bank account. There's clear demand for this show. The only other Kickstarter for a TV show that's done better than this is Veronica Mars.
Unfortunately that's unlikely to happen. MST3K is in the "Firefly zone" where the fans are passionate and vocal but less numerous than the volume of their voice might imply. If you were to graph it out there is a steep dropoff from those who like it to those with no interest at all. It just doesn't have a really wide appeal.
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I'm pretty sure $4M is going to be enough to get some bigwig to take notice. It doesn't seem like a lot, but that's money raised exclusively by fans, not out of a corporate bank account. There's clear demand for this show. The only other Kickstarter for a TV show that's done better than this is Veronica Mars.
Unfortunately that's unlikely to happen. MST3K is in the "Firefly zone" where the fans are passionate and vocal but less numerous than the volume of their voice might imply. If you were to graph it out there is a steep dropoff from those who like it to those with no interest at all. It just doesn't have a really wide appeal.
I disagree with this. I mean, for one the show is nearly 15 years off the air at this point, so it's obvious there is going to be a gap of people who aren't familiar with it. Secondly, it's an extremely cheap show to make, so it's not like the most likely high budget SFX-heavy episodes of Firefly. I mean, it's understandable that executives don't want to spend that much on a semi-niche show. But MST3K might make more sense given the low cost and built-in fanbase.
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Crow sounds great.
I have a hard time differentiating Servo and that Jonah guy.
I think they'll break the 4.4 mark. Successful kickstarters usually have a huge last-minute push.
Also, it's possible they'll get picked up by someone and get to do more episodes with, say, Netflix or Hulu footing the bill.
I have mixed feelings. I think he's probably a good pick and does actually look like he could be related to Frank. On the other hand Oswalt is a garbage person and kind of a twit on social media.
Wait what? I've heard nothing but good things about Patton Oswalt. What makes him a garbage person?
And a bunch more info about the rewards and such. They're basically on their final stretch to the end now.
His personality on Twitter.
He's a great standup and a good actor but it's hard to enjoy him knowing what he's like there.
My limited experience with him on Twitter is giving jerks and racists a lot of shit. He's very socially conscious and also very political. Personally I've found his tweets pretty hilarious too, speaking specifically about his categorizing of the GOP debate participants as DND characters. I understand why that might make you not want to follow him, but "a garbage person" seems a bit extreme.
It's just one example, and it's not going to keep me from watching the show or anything. I just think he's more concerned about getting to say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people than he is about the people who are hurt in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression.
Uh, I'm googling but not finding anything I actually disagree with. He's a comedian, saying potentially offensive/funny things is what he does. This is the US, where he should be allowed to "say whatever he wants without having to worry about offending people." There's literally an amendment that lets him do that. I disagree with people who say there are some subjects you shouldn't joke about ever at all in any capacity. If handled correctly, anything can be made into a joke. But comedy should also encourage people to laugh with one another, not at each other in an offensive way.
Although I think everyone can agree that writing an essay on Twitter is horrible. Don't write 50 tweets to get out one message holy crap.
That's not what the 1st amendment does...
Freedom of Speech is protected by the 1st amendment in the US. His ability to say whatever he wants on twitter without getting arrested by the government is protected by the 1st amendment. Thus, he can say whatever he wants without having to worry about terrible consequences from making a joke about something. Sure, other people can be offended, but he doesn't have to worry about it because they can't do anything just because they're offended. But you're right, it can't prevent people from being offended. I just don't think it makes him "a garbage person" for wanting to be able to joke about whatever. Was there a specific instance where he mocked something and someone got upset? There are cases of that where the person mocking did it insensitively and ruined it, and cases where people are way too uptight about stuff that is clearly a joke. I haven't seen Patton Oswalt doing anything that might hurt people "in very real ways by the normalization and acceptance of insensitivity and microaggression." Hell I see Patton most making fun of the GOP!
I have not seen this myself with Oswalt, but I'd agree. You can say whatever you want, but people are allowed to respond! Free speech is for everyone, not just the people who shout the loudest.
And agreed, I am psyched to see MST3K back and hope it is as good as it used to be.
Unfortunately that's unlikely to happen. MST3K is in the "Firefly zone" where the fans are passionate and vocal but less numerous than the volume of their voice might imply. If you were to graph it out there is a steep dropoff from those who like it to those with no interest at all. It just doesn't have a really wide appeal.
I disagree with this. I mean, for one the show is nearly 15 years off the air at this point, so it's obvious there is going to be a gap of people who aren't familiar with it. Secondly, it's an extremely cheap show to make, so it's not like the most likely high budget SFX-heavy episodes of Firefly. I mean, it's understandable that executives don't want to spend that much on a semi-niche show. But MST3K might make more sense given the low cost and built-in fanbase.