There is a batman quote on the rotten tomatoes page for the movie that is the worst thing I've ever read, and I read the webcomics thread
You can't just say stuff like this and not share it with the rest of the class.
I assume he means this one:
Bruce Wayne/Batman: You're not brave. Men are brave. You say you want to help people, but you can't experience their pain...their mortality. It's time you learned what it means to be a man!
‐ Submitted by Todd F (4 days ago)
But then, they're all bad
Did David Goyer play a superhero-themed World of Darkness campaign with a bunch of moody teenagers and then pass off the session logs as a movie script?
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There is a batman quote on the rotten tomatoes page for the movie that is the worst thing I've ever read, and I read the webcomics thread
You can't just say stuff like this and not share it with the rest of the class.
I assume he means this one:
Bruce Wayne/Batman: You're not brave. Men are brave. You say you want to help people, but you can't experience their pain...their mortality. It's time you learned what it means to be a man!
‐ Submitted by Todd F (4 days ago)
But then, they're all bad
Did David Goyer play a superhero-themed World of Darkness campaign with a bunch of moody teenagers and then pass off the session logs as a movie script?
I'll have you know this movie was rewritten by an academy award winner
The actual end of the oldest lie line ain't terrible and I don't hate the idea of "you're not brave, men are brave" even if the rest of the quote is pretty bad and fuck that sentiment
The thing about Superman is, he should be the one to say "I'm not brave, men are brave" because that's the truth!
Or just take that whole line and give it to Luthor, that's exactly something he'd say
The actual end of the oldest lie line ain't terrible and I don't hate the idea of "you're not brave, men are brave" even if the rest of the quote is pretty bad and fuck that sentiment
The thing about Superman is, he should be the one to say "I'm not brave, men are brave" because that's the truth!
Or just take that whole line and give it to Luthor, that's exactly something he'd say
Sure the context is terrible but honestly I'm shocked they managed a somewhat unstilled idea even if it makes batman more of a grump and mouthpiece for idiots.
I just don't understand why anyone thought it was a good idea to hire someone who vocally hates superman to write for superman.
Also he keep referencing the worst superman stories with the exception of birthright.
The actual end of the oldest lie line ain't terrible and I don't hate the idea of "you're not brave, men are brave" even if the rest of the quote is pretty bad and fuck that sentiment
The thing about Superman is, he should be the one to say "I'm not brave, men are brave" because that's the truth!
Or just take that whole line and give it to Luthor, that's exactly something he'd say
Sure the context is terrible but honestly I'm shocked they managed a somewhat unstilled idea even if it makes batman more of a grump and mouthpiece for idiots.
I just don't understand why anyone thought it was a good idea to hire someone who vocally hates superman to write for superman.
Also he keep referencing the worst superman stories with the exception of birthright.
Reminder that the author of birthright involuntarily screamed during the film because of how betrayed and hurt he felt
I imagine BvS is going to be slightly better than your average Transformer movie and be a hit with all the people who pay money to see those on opening weekend.
It's also probably going to make more money than your average Transformer movie, because Batman is in it.
Amusingly, the Ninja Turtles sequel later this year will probably be a better film, and it's got Michael Bay's name on it.
The actual end of the oldest lie line ain't terrible and I don't hate the idea of "you're not brave, men are brave" even if the rest of the quote is pretty bad and fuck that sentiment
The thing about Superman is, he should be the one to say "I'm not brave, men are brave" because that's the truth!
Or just take that whole line and give it to Luthor, that's exactly something he'd say
Sure the context is terrible but honestly I'm shocked they managed a somewhat unstilled idea even if it makes batman more of a grump and mouthpiece for idiots.
I just don't understand why anyone thought it was a good idea to hire someone who vocally hates superman to write for superman.
Also he keep referencing the worst superman stories with the exception of birthright.
Reminder that the author of birthright involuntarily screamed during the film because of how betrayed and hurt he felt
Hahaha, so bad there is literal wailing and teeth gnashing in the audience
Speaking of Kate Bishop, I met Annie Wu this weekend
Had her sign her volume of Hawkeye and told her that, in addition to me loving her work, I showed my dad Hawkeye, Black Canary, and Venture Bros, and he loves all of them, so she is 3 for 3 with 45 year old suburban dads
She pumped her fist and said "that's my core demographic!"
Annie Wu's cool
Wait fuck Annie Wu was at c2E2 and missed her? Fucccckkkkk
There is a batman quote on the rotten tomatoes page for the movie that is the worst thing I've ever read, and I read the webcomics thread
You can't just say stuff like this and not share it with the rest of the class.
I assume he means this one:
Bruce Wayne/Batman: You're not brave. Men are brave. You say you want to help people, but you can't experience their pain...their mortality. It's time you learned what it means to be a man!
‐ Submitted by Todd F (4 days ago)
But then, they're all bad
So Batman is helping Superman to empathize with humans, by beating him up so he could face mortality. Superman should thank him.
I had a sad conversation with some friends over the weekend where they kept going on and on about how "Gritty dark realistic Superman is perfect because thats what would happen in real life!" my argument that I don't always want to read comics or see movies to see a reflection of the real world was lost on them
I had a sad conversation with some friends over the weekend where they kept going on and on about how "Gritty dark realistic Superman is perfect because thats what would happen in real life!" my argument that I don't always want to read comics or see movies to see a reflection of the real world was lost on them
I like how they're so sure that would happen "in the real world." It's like, we have so many cases of superpowered vigilantes to analyze, so of course we'd know what would happen. It's not like this would be a completely unprecedented event for the entire world!
The actual end of the oldest lie line ain't terrible and I don't hate the idea of "you're not brave, men are brave" even if the rest of the quote is pretty bad and fuck that sentiment
The thing about Superman is, he should be the one to say "I'm not brave, men are brave" because that's the truth!
Or just take that whole line and give it to Luthor, that's exactly something he'd say
Sure the context is terrible but honestly I'm shocked they managed a somewhat unstilled idea even if it makes batman more of a grump and mouthpiece for idiots.
I just don't understand why anyone thought it was a good idea to hire someone who vocally hates superman to write for superman.
Also he keep referencing the worst superman stories with the exception of birthright.
Reminder that the author of birthright involuntarily screamed during the film because of how betrayed and hurt he felt
You know the worst part of MoS that nobody ever talks about?
All the dumb genetics nonsense.
"Kal-El as the only natural born Kyptonian you are the only one who can choose your own fate- but just enact the exact plan I made for your life before I sent you to Earth. Also made you a costume"
You know the worst part of MoS that nobody ever talks about?
All the dumb genetics nonsense.
"Kal-El as the only natural born Kyptonian you are the only one who can choose your own fate- but just enact the exact plan I made for your life before I sent you to Earth. Also made you a costume"
I loved the hamfisted symbolism of the codex
"Here is the genetic template for all Kryptonians; a dying race, our biological heritage is represented by a SKULL!
Now I will infuse it into our NEWBORN BABY, who will represent a new beginning!"
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edited March 2016
In my opinion, Siegel and Shuster were the only ones who could cry in anguish over any of the changes made to Superman and it not be an over the top reaction.
Everyone else has been tripping over themselves with remixes and reinventions since. It's gunna happen again with every iteration of the character.
In my opinion, Siegel and Shuster were the only ones who could cry in anguish over any of the changes made to Superman and it not be an over the top reaction.
Everyone else has been tripping over themselves with remixes and reinventions since. It's gunna happen again to the next generation.
I mean
Waid did so because Man of Steel was heavily cribbing from specifically his story, Birthright, and the marketing, specifically the final trailer, had been leaning into the good parts of Birthright so he was even more furious than he would have been if it was just a bad Superman movie
Like regardless of whether or not you think it was over the top dude had plenty of grounds to be pissed off and upset
In my opinion, Siegel and Shuster were the only ones who could cry in anguish over any of the changes made to Superman and it not be an over the top reaction.
Everyone else has been tripping over themselves with remixes and reinventions since. It's gunna happen again to the next generation.
I mean
Waid did so because Man of Steel was heavily cribbing from specifically his story, Birthright, and the marketing, specifically the final trailer, had been leaning into the good parts of Birthright so he was even more furious than he would have been if it was just a bad Superman movie
Like regardless of whether or not you think it was over the top dude had plenty of grounds to be pissed off and upset
I don't think the movie was particularly cribbing from Birthright at all. But it's been awhile since I read it. He flew over herds of wild animals. And the public sees the threat as Kryptonians, which in the book is in an illusion and in the movie it's actual. Beyond that I don't remember much drawing much from Birthright beyond what Birthright drew from every other Superman story.
Also don't remember the marketing all that well, but I thought it used the speeches that were drawn from All Star more than anything else?
And I dunno. Even if it took from Birthright. I just find it offputting for a dude who was doing stories of another's character (that he certainly knew was ill-gotten) to complain about how *his* story was handled. But my view of creator ethics is complicated in those situations.
I doubt it was an actual scream but some noise of disgust, probably
The way he tells it is when Superman kills Zod he stood up and screamed "WELL NOW YOU'VE LOST ME" and had to be persuaded to sit down and stop making a scene from his wife.
In my opinion, Siegel and Shuster were the only ones who could cry in anguish over any of the changes made to Superman and it not be an over the top reaction.
Everyone else has been tripping over themselves with remixes and reinventions since. It's gunna happen again to the next generation.
I mean
Waid did so because Man of Steel was heavily cribbing from specifically his story, Birthright, and the marketing, specifically the final trailer, had been leaning into the good parts of Birthright so he was even more furious than he would have been if it was just a bad Superman movie
Like regardless of whether or not you think it was over the top dude had plenty of grounds to be pissed off and upset
I don't think the movie was particularly cribbing from Birthright at all. But it's been awhile since I read it. He flew over herds of wild animals. And the public sees the threat as Kryptonians, which in the book is in an illusion and in the movie it's actual. Beyond that I don't remember much drawing much from Birthright beyond what Birthright drew from every other Superman story.
I don't remember the marketing all that well, but I thought it used the speeches that were drawn from All Star more than anything else?
And I dunno. Even if it took from Birthright. I just find it offputting for a dude who was doing stories of another's character (that he certainly knew was ill-gotten) to complain about how *his* story was handled. But my view of creator ethics is complicated in those situations.
MoS is explicitly an adaption of Birthright. That's from the mouths of the writers.
I doubt it was an actual scream but some noise of disgust, probably
The way he tells it is when Superman kills Zod he stood up and scream "WELL NOW YOU'VE LOST ME" and had to be persuaded to sit down and stop making a scene from his wife.
Then yeah Waid was being over the top
But being real pissed about it is okay
Just
Don't do it in a crowded movie theater you dummy
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In my opinion, Siegel and Shuster were the only ones who could cry in anguish over any of the changes made to Superman and it not be an over the top reaction.
Everyone else has been tripping over themselves with remixes and reinventions since. It's gunna happen again to the next generation.
I mean
Waid did so because Man of Steel was heavily cribbing from specifically his story, Birthright, and the marketing, specifically the final trailer, had been leaning into the good parts of Birthright so he was even more furious than he would have been if it was just a bad Superman movie
Like regardless of whether or not you think it was over the top dude had plenty of grounds to be pissed off and upset
I don't think the movie was particularly cribbing from Birthright at all. But it's been awhile since I read it. He flew over herds of wild animals. And the public sees the threat as Kryptonians, which in the book is in an illusion and in the movie it's actual. Beyond that I don't remember much drawing much from Birthright beyond what Birthright drew from every other Superman story.
I don't remember the marketing all that well, but I thought it used the speeches that were drawn from All Star more than anything else?
And I dunno. Even if it took from Birthright. I just find it offputting for a dude who was doing stories of another's character (that he certainly knew was ill-gotten) to complain about how *his* story was handled. But my view of creator ethics is complicated in those situations.
MoS is explicitly an adaption of Birthright. That's from the mouths of the writers.
I'm poking around and I can't seem to find any source of that. Just that it used elements from Birthright.
Dark Knight using elements of Long Halloween kind of stuff pops up, but no explicit adaptation stuff. Was it a Snyder claim?
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Wait. Mark Waid originated the concept of the S being a Kryptonian sigil? F that. It is an S. As in for Super. As in Clark is a dork and that's why we love him.
Wait. Mark Waid originated the concept of the S being a Kryptonian sigil? F that. It is an S. As in for Super. As in Clark is a dork and that's why we love him.
The problem with that being that he would never call himself SUperman.
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His mama would. And Clark ain't about to tell Ma Kent that she's wrong.
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Did David Goyer play a superhero-themed World of Darkness campaign with a bunch of moody teenagers and then pass off the session logs as a movie script?
I'll have you know this movie was rewritten by an academy award winner
It's just too sophisticated for us plebs
meaning it'll likely be a big hit??
Well you see, Superman is invincible and that makes him boring. Furthermore,
Stay in school kids
The thing about Superman is, he should be the one to say "I'm not brave, men are brave" because that's the truth!
Or just take that whole line and give it to Luthor, that's exactly something he'd say
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it's basically a list of about a dozen tweets
four of which are from Carl Cunningham who is the film's PR rep
Sure the context is terrible but honestly I'm shocked they managed a somewhat unstilled idea even if it makes batman more of a grump and mouthpiece for idiots.
I just don't understand why anyone thought it was a good idea to hire someone who vocally hates superman to write for superman.
Also he keep referencing the worst superman stories with the exception of birthright.
Reminder that the author of birthright involuntarily screamed during the film because of how betrayed and hurt he felt
Glad I didn't post before getting to this page because this was exactly what I was coming to say
It's also probably going to make more money than your average Transformer movie, because Batman is in it.
Amusingly, the Ninja Turtles sequel later this year will probably be a better film, and it's got Michael Bay's name on it.
Hahaha, so bad there is literal wailing and teeth gnashing in the audience
Wait fuck Annie Wu was at c2E2 and missed her? Fucccckkkkk
So Batman is helping Superman to empathize with humans, by beating him up so he could face mortality. Superman should thank him.
The flames coming out of the Batwing, oh my god
I like how they're so sure that would happen "in the real world." It's like, we have so many cases of superpowered vigilantes to analyze, so of course we'd know what would happen. It's not like this would be a completely unprecedented event for the entire world!
The real battle
oh man
if i didn't love man of steel before
All the dumb genetics nonsense.
"Kal-El as the only natural born Kyptonian you are the only one who can choose your own fate- but just enact the exact plan I made for your life before I sent you to Earth. Also made you a costume"
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I loved the hamfisted symbolism of the codex
"Here is the genetic template for all Kryptonians; a dying race, our biological heritage is represented by a SKULL!
Now I will infuse it into our NEWBORN BABY, who will represent a new beginning!"
https://youtu.be/I3WhdXPaUd8
Blizzard is doing superheroes real good
Everyone else has been tripping over themselves with remixes and reinventions since. It's gunna happen again with every iteration of the character.
Waid did so because Man of Steel was heavily cribbing from specifically his story, Birthright, and the marketing, specifically the final trailer, had been leaning into the good parts of Birthright so he was even more furious than he would have been if it was just a bad Superman movie
Like regardless of whether or not you think it was over the top dude had plenty of grounds to be pissed off and upset
It got to the point where BugBoy asked me to stop, because I was irritating him
Something that he asks, oh, maybe once or twice a decade
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I don't think the movie was particularly cribbing from Birthright at all. But it's been awhile since I read it. He flew over herds of wild animals. And the public sees the threat as Kryptonians, which in the book is in an illusion and in the movie it's actual. Beyond that I don't remember much drawing much from Birthright beyond what Birthright drew from every other Superman story.
Also don't remember the marketing all that well, but I thought it used the speeches that were drawn from All Star more than anything else?
And I dunno. Even if it took from Birthright. I just find it offputting for a dude who was doing stories of another's character (that he certainly knew was ill-gotten) to complain about how *his* story was handled. But my view of creator ethics is complicated in those situations.
The way he tells it is when Superman kills Zod he stood up and screamed "WELL NOW YOU'VE LOST ME" and had to be persuaded to sit down and stop making a scene from his wife.
MoS is explicitly an adaption of Birthright. That's from the mouths of the writers.
But being real pissed about it is okay
Just
Don't do it in a crowded movie theater you dummy
I'm poking around and I can't seem to find any source of that. Just that it used elements from Birthright.
Dark Knight using elements of Long Halloween kind of stuff pops up, but no explicit adaptation stuff. Was it a Snyder claim?
The problem with that being that he would never call himself SUperman.