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Star Wars: EU texts?

MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNARochester, MNRegistered User regular
edited November 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
I just finished reading the Thrawn trilogy by Zahn and I was pretty impressed, so I went and picked up the Jedi Academy trilogy by Kevin Anderson.

All of a sudden, Jacen and Jaina went from infants to 2 years of age, and there was a third child born somewhere in there. Also, there is mention of the Ressurected Emperor?

Which texts did I miss between the two trilogies? Is there some big list out there of the order I should read these in?

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited November 2006
    It is best at this point to put the book down and pretend they never wrote any more after thrawn.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Cardboard Tube wrote:
    It is best at this point to put the book down and pretend they never wrote any more after thrawn.
    Yes. Yes, it is.

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    DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    MegaMan001 wrote:
    I just finished reading the Thrawn trilogy by Zahn and I was pretty impressed, so I went and picked up the Jedi Academy trilogy by Kevin Anderson.

    All of a sudden, Jacen and Jaina went from infants to 2 years of age, and there was a third child born somewhere in there. Also, there is mention of the Ressurected Emperor?

    Which texts did I miss between the two trilogies? Is there some big list out there of the order I should read these in?
    All that stuff occurred in the Dark Empire trilogy of graphic novels (Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, and Empire's End).

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    Nitsuj82Nitsuj82 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I even tried reading the second round of Thrawn books, but lost interest really quickly. So yeah, stick to the trilogy and let it go.

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    Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Cardboard Tube wrote:
    It is best at this point to put the book down and pretend they never wrote any more after thrawn.
    Black Fleet Crisis wasn't bad if you skipped all of Luke's emo crap.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Well, Jesus - that's not all that positive.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited November 2006
    The majority of the EU composes some of the worst literature ever written.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Anderson is a fucking idiot and decided to utilize material from the Dark Horse comics.

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    HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The New Jedi Order series is hit or miss, but I liked the overarching story.

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    Arch Guru XXArch Guru XX Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Liked the (apparently first) Thrawn trilogy, thought Truce at Bakura and The Courtship of Princess Leia were tolerable, haven't touched a SW book since the Jedi Academy books. Ugh.

    The Dark Empire graphic novel / trade paperback seemed good at the time, though now I find the dialog pretty weak (like the art in general though). Interesting storyline (compared to JA, anyway), although how the imperials could have built so much stuff without anyone noticing remains a mystery.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    All right, lock 'er up - I won't pursue this any further.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    MegaMan001 wrote:
    All right, lock 'er up - I won't pursue this any further.
    If you're still kind of tempted, you could read some summaries on Wikipedia.

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    arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    Xwing and Wraith squadron, people! Jesus!

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    YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I, Jedi! The Original Han Solo Trilogy... the newest books are awesome. NJO is pretty good.

    I just finished Dark Lord, it was pretty good. Outbound Flight rocked.

    Man there are some shitty shitty EU books, but there are plenty of good ones outside the Thrawn trilogy. The list of books to avoid is much shorter than the books that you should read.

    How can you like Truce at Bakura but despise Jedi Academy?

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    DarthBinksDarthBinks Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'll agree with the X-Wing and Wraith squadron critique, but above all and espicially with art, creative works etc. you should really

    FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF

    Seriously, listening to opinions about something that's entirely subjective doesn't help. Go to your local library and check some out, it can't hurt right?

    hypocritically : The novelization of Episode III was actually very well done compared to I & II.

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    Arch Guru XXArch Guru XX Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    YodaTuna wrote:
    How can you like Truce at Bakura but despise Jedi Academy?

    Good question, it's been so long since I read them that I'm not really sure, and I certainly accept that Truce at Bakura could have been pretty bad. I think I read Truce a good while before I started on JA, so maybe my tastes had become more refined?

    Alternatively, I remember picked up Truce on a whim, whereas JA sounded really cool, so maybe it has to do with mismatched expectations. I have no intention of reading either again, so I'll take your word for it and lower my opinion of Truce.

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    Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    despite all the hate that the EU gets, there's good stuff in it. At the very least, enjoyable stuff. Very little of it is high art, but there's room in everyone's reading diet for pulp and fun.

    Here's a comprehensive list of the EU. Titles in italics should be avoided at all costs. Titles in bold are especially good, at least in my humble opinion. I've also excised the young readers' titles.

    Darth Bane: Path of Destruction by Drew Karpyshyn

    Darth Maul: Saboteur by James Luceno
    Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter by Michael Reaves

    Cloak of Deception by James Luceno

    Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks

    Rogue Planet by Greg Bear

    Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn

    The Approaching Storm by Alan Dean Foster

    Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones by R.A. Salvatore
    Star Wars Republic Commando: Hard Contact by Karen Traviss (22 BBY)
    Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover (21.5 BBY)
    The Cestus Deception by Steven Barnes (21 BBY)
    The Hive by Steven Barnes (21 BBY) (E)
    Star Wars Republic Commando: Triple Zero by Karen Traviss (21 BBY)
    MedStar I: Battle Surgeons by Michael Reaves & Steve Perry (20 BBY)
    MedStar II: Jedi Healer by Michael Reaves & Steve Perry (20 BBY)
    Jedi Trial by David Sherman & Dan Cragg (19.5 BBY)
    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous by Sean Stewart (19.5 BBY)
    Labyrinth of Evil by James Luceno (19 BBY)
    Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover
    Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader by James Luceno (19 BBY)

    the Han Solo Trilogy
    The Paradise Snare by A.C. Crispin
    The Hutt Gambit by A.C. Crispin
    Rebel Dawn by A.C. Crispin

    The Adventures of Lando Calrissian
    Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu by L. Neil Smith
    Lando Calrissian and the Flamewind of Oseon by L. Neil Smith
    Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka by L. Neil Smith

    The Han Solo Adventures
    Han Solo at Stars' End by Brian Daley
    Han Solo's Revenge by Brian Daley
    Han Solo and the Lost Legacy by Brian Daley

    A New Hope
    Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker by Alan Dean Foster writing as George Lucas (later reissued as Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope)
    tales From the Mos Eisley Cantina edited by Kevin J. Anderson
    Tales of the Bounty Hunters edited by Kevin J. Anderson
    Tales From Jabba's Palace edited by Kevin J. Anderson
    Tales From the Empire edited by Peter Schweighofer
    Tales From the New Republic edited by Peter Schweighofer
    Star Wars Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine by Voronica Whitney-Robinson & Haden Blackman
    Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster

    Galaxy of Fear
    Eaten Alive by John Whitman (Y)
    City of the Dead by John Whitman (Y)
    Planet Plague by John Whitman (Y)
    The Nightmare Machine by John Whitman (Y)
    Ghost of the Jedi by John Whitman (Y)
    Army of Terror by John Whitman (Y)
    The Brain Spiders by John Whitman(Y)
    The Swarm by John Whitman (Y)
    Spore by John Whitman (Y)
    The Doomsday Ship by John Whitman (Y)
    Clones by John Whitman (Y)
    The Hunger by John Whitman (Y)

    Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back by Donald F. Glut
    Shadows of the Empire by Steve Perry
    Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi by James Kahn

    The Bounty Hunter Wars
    The Mandalorian Armor by K.W. Jeter
    Slave Ship by K.W. Jeter
    Hard Merchandise by K.W. Jeter

    The Truce at Bakura by Kathy Tyers

    Jedi Prince series
    The Glove of Darth Vader by Paul & Hollace Davids
    The Lost City of the Jedi by Paul & Hollace Davids
    Zorba the Hutt's Revenge by Paul & Hollace Davids
    Mission from Mount Yoda by Paul & Hollace Davids
    Queen of the Empire by Paul & Hollace Davids
    Prophets of the Dark Side by Paul & Hollace Davids

    X-wing series
    Rogue Squadron by Michael Stackpole
    Wedge's Gamble by Michael Stackpole
    The Krytos Trap by Michael Stackpole
    The Bacta War by Michael Stackpole
    Wraith Squadron by Aaron Allston
    Iron Fist by Aaron Allston
    Solo Command by Aaron Allston
    Isard's Revenge by Michael Stackpole
    Starfighters of Adumar by Aaron Allston

    The Courtship of Princess Leia by Dave Wolverton
    A Forest Apart by Troy Denning (E)
    Tatooine Ghost by Troy Denning

    The Thrawn Trilogy
    Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn
    Dark Force Rising by Timothy Zahn
    The Last Command by Timothy Zahn

    The Jedi Academy Trilogy
    Jedi Search by Kevin J. Anderson
    Dark Apprentice by Kevin J. Anderson
    Champions of the Force by Kevin J. Anderson

    I, Jedi by Michael Stackpole

    Callista Trilogy
    Children of the Jedi by Barbara Hambly
    Darksaber by Kevin J. Anderson
    Planet of Twilight by Barbara Hambly

    The Crystal Star by Vonda McIntyre

    The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy
    Before the Storm by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
    Shield of Lies by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
    Tyrant's Test by Michael P. Kube-McDowell

    The New Rebellion by Kristine Rusch

    The Corellian Trilogy
    Ambush at Corellia by Roger MacBride Allen
    Assault at Selonia by Roger MacBride Allen
    Showdown at Centerpoint by Roger MacBride Allen

    The Hand of Thrawn Duology
    Specter of the Past by Timothy Zahn
    Vision of the Future by Timothy Zahn

    Fool's Bargain by Timothy Zahn (E)
    Survivor's Quest by Timothy Zahn

    The New Jedi Order
    Vector Prime by R.A. Salvatore Dark Tide I: Onslaught by Michael Stackpole
    Dark Tide II: Ruin by Michael Stackpole
    Agents of Chaos: Hero's Trial by James Luceno
    Agents of Chaos: Jedi Eclipse by James Luceno
    Balance Point by Kathy Tyers
    Recovery by Troy Denning (E)
    Edge of Victory: Conquest by Greg Keyes
    Edge of Victory: Rebirth by Greg Keyes
    Star by Star by Troy Denning
    Dark Journey by Elaine Cunningham
    Enemy Lines: Rebel Dream by Aaron Allston
    Enemy Lines: Rebel Stand by Aaron Allston
    Traitor by Matthew Stover
    Destiny's Way by Walter Jon Williams
    Ylesia by Walter Jon Williams (E)
    Force Heretic: Remnant by Sean Williams & Shane Dix
    Force Heretic: Refugee by Sean Williams & Shane Dix
    Force Heretic: Reunion by Sean Williams & Shane Dix
    The Final Prophecy by Greg Keyes
    The Unifying Force by James Luceno

    The Dark Nest trilogy
    The Joiner King by Troy Denning
    The Unseen Queen by Troy Denning
    The Swarm War by Troy Denning

    Legacy of the Force
    Betrayal by Aaron Allston
    Bloodlines by Karen Traviss

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    KrizKriz Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    the Han Solo adventures trilogy by Brian Daley is quite enjoyable.

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    Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    HOW CAN YOU RECOMMEND VECTOR PRIME

    [realspoiler:3925f903ec]THEY DROP A MOON ON CHEWBACCA

    A GODDAMN MOON

    I MEAN COME ON[/realspoiler:3925f903ec]

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    KrizKriz Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Salvation122 wrote:
    HOW CAN YOU RECOMMEND VECTOR PRIME

    [realspoiler:caae67d0ab]THEY DROP A MOON ON CHEWBACCA

    A GODDAMN MOON

    I MEAN COME ON[/realspoiler:caae67d0ab]

    How would you have prefered that they

    [realspoiler:caae67d0ab]kill off Chewbacca? that was dictated by whoever manages the EU, RA Salvatore had to kill him off somehow, I think it was pretty badass way to die.[/realspoiler:caae67d0ab]

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Wow, thank you so much Conditional_Axe - I'll print that off and head over to the library tomorrow

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    Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Salvation122 wrote:
    HOW CAN YOU RECOMMEND VECTOR PRIME

    [realspoiler:ec13300272]THEY DROP A MOON ON CHEWBACCA

    A GODDAMN MOON

    I MEAN COME ON[/realspoiler:ec13300272]
    [spoiler:ec13300272]best death ever.[/spoiler:ec13300272]

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Rogue Planet was a fucking travesty. It might pass muster as star wars fluff, but as a greg bear book it's a critical fucking miss. Formulaic, boring, uninspiring, unimaginative, idiotic, filth.

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    Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Szechuanosaurus wrote:
    Rogue Planet was a fucking travesty. It might pass muster as star wars fluff, but as a greg bear book it's a critical fucking miss. Formulaic, boring, uninspiring, unimaginative, idiotic, filth.
    No, as a Star Wars book, it's also total garbage. There are a few noteworthy Anakin moments, but even then, none of that elevates the thing above being absolute crap. Such a huge disappointment.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Szechuanosaurus wrote:
    Rogue Planet was a fucking travesty. It might pass muster as star wars fluff, but as a greg bear book it's a critical fucking miss. Formulaic, boring, uninspiring, unimaginative, idiotic, filth.
    Greg Bear has fallen drastically off since he tried to imitate Crichton.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Conditional_Axe wrote:
    Szechuanosaurus wrote:
    Rogue Planet was a fucking travesty. It might pass muster as star wars fluff, but as a greg bear book it's a critical fucking miss. Formulaic, boring, uninspiring, unimaginative, idiotic, filth.
    No, as a Star Wars book, it's also total garbage. There are a few noteworthy Anakin moments, but even then, none of that elevates the thing above being absolute crap. Such a huge disappointment.

    Ah. I missed the bit about what the italics mean! And seriously, what was Bear thinking? He's not my most favorite sci-fi author but he's better than that.

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    DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Szechuanosaurus wrote:
    Conditional_Axe wrote:
    Szechuanosaurus wrote:
    Rogue Planet was a fucking travesty. It might pass muster as star wars fluff, but as a greg bear book it's a critical fucking miss. Formulaic, boring, uninspiring, unimaginative, idiotic, filth.
    No, as a Star Wars book, it's also total garbage. There are a few noteworthy Anakin moments, but even then, none of that elevates the thing above being absolute crap. Such a huge disappointment.

    Ah. I missed the bit about what the italics mean! And seriously, what was Bear thinking? He's not my most favorite sci-fi author but he's better than that.

    $$$

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Anything by Matthew Stover.

    If the Revenge of the Sith movie was exactly like the book it would be imeasurably better.

    Also Clone Wars comics are really good.

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