I thought Fake Module and the Scythe Guy were actually somewhat challenging, but I guess they technically aren't "the South Boss", even though the NPC that reveals the boss seems to think Scythe Guy is the actual leader.
I actually died more to South than East. In that I actually died twice to the South boss, because mines. Then I remembered I had a grenade and things went easy from there.
Gripes about lack of handholding and the level of difficulty are amusing. Go play Mega Man or Super Mario Bros. Every boss/zone had a trick to figure out and every level had secrets with no indicators whatsoever. I like having to scratch my head every once in a while or take chances on a boss or secret area.
Yes, because game design from 30 years ago totally justifies poor design decisions for new games.
Something like Arkham Asylum is packed with fun, challenging secrets to find and solve, and there is literally one secret in the entire game which is hidden in such a way that the player would not reasonably be able to find it. And that was an awesomely-hidden easter egg anyway.
HLD's chief problem is some poor design decisions, not that it's too hard or it doesn't have enough "handholding".
But I found a lot of stuff by going "huh, there's some walkable stuff at the edge of the screen" or "oh look, a single conspicuous LED" or "huh, why would there be a dead end here with literally nothing in it". You can pretty quickly get a sense for when there's something available.
(I also smashed my face into every wall just for good measure, so maybe I'm full of shit!)
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ok beated it - went into last fight with 10 keys, all upgrades (but only the rifle upgrade for guns), ~28 triangles and who knows how many monoliths
think i'll just call it there
Huzzah, beat the game today! Finished up South and then did the final boss. Clocked in ~10 hours. Didn't really go for secrets or anything. Secrets felt a bit... hmm, not really worthwhile? Like they didn't really reward you with much considering the amount of effort required. Game felt a wee bit short, despite clocking 10 hours, but it felt good regardless. I think a lot of people wanted something more Zelda-esque (myself included), particularly like Link To The Past or something. Yknow, like big expansive overworld kinda deal. But again, I think it was a good game for what it was, it didn't overstay its welcome or anything. I'm happy with how it turned out. South maybe felt a bit shallow compared to N/W/E. Boss fights were great. Combat was great. Good-ass game.
Personal musings aside, South boss was uh... yeah, kinda pathetically easy, haha. Also if there was a weapon from the South boss, I guess I missed it, cause I didn't see anything. Final boss was really cool. Definitely felt final boss worthy.
Now I'm digging into all these lore theories and such. Crazy.
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Secrets felt a bit... hmm, not really worthwhile? Like they didn't really reward you with much considering the amount of effort required.
Honestly my biggest gripe overall about the "secrets", considering how much more effort they put into hiding them then they did into giving the player ways to find them.
I mean, I only wasted a couple of hours looking for them and I still felt like I was cheated out of my time, because it's hard to get less rewarding than finding one more key meaning you can find something as utterly amazing as another lousy bit or a triangle or something.
Seriously, give me anything more about the lore of the setting, such as what the hell the big robots from the intro have to do with anything. Or why I'm in this world. Or what a "hyper light drifter" even fucking does. Because there's a pretty wide gulf between "show, don't tell" and the almost nonexistent exposition here.
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Huzzah, beat the game today! Finished up South and then did the final boss. Clocked in ~10 hours. Didn't really go for secrets or anything. Secrets felt a bit... hmm, not really worthwhile? Like they didn't really reward you with much considering the amount of effort required. Game felt a wee bit short, despite clocking 10 hours, but it felt good regardless. I think a lot of people wanted something more Zelda-esque (myself included), particularly like Link To The Past or something. Yknow, like big expansive overworld kinda deal. But again, I think it was a good game for what it was, it didn't overstay its welcome or anything. I'm happy with how it turned out. South maybe felt a bit shallow compared to N/W/E. Boss fights were great. Combat was great. Good-ass game.
Personal musings aside, South boss was uh... yeah, kinda pathetically easy, haha. Also if there was a weapon from the South boss, I guess I missed it, cause I didn't see anything. Final boss was really cool. Definitely felt final boss worthy.
Now I'm digging into all these lore theories and such. Crazy.
there is a weapon from the south but it's not from the boss
it's behind the eight-triangle door in the eastern part of the region
secrets in general aren't super great in this game, it's most important that you just find as many gearbits as you can
the outfits are neat but the most of the ones you can get early are ugly and none of them have a very big impact on the game
"Finished" this yesterday, now going back through and trying to hit more of the secrets.
Can anyone point me to where the 8-triangle door in the East is? I found the 8 key one, but can't find the door. Is there one? I feel like there must be...
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Can anyone point me to where the 8-triangle door in the East is? I found the 8 key one, but can't find the door. Is there one? I feel like there must be...
If you look at the map, you'll see a giant monolith to the northwest of the Eastern teleport pad and that's more or less where you'll find it.
Can anyone point me to where the 8-triangle door in the East is? I found the 8 key one, but can't find the door. Is there one? I feel like there must be...
If you look at the map, you'll see a giant monolith to the northwest of the Eastern teleport pad and that's more or less where you'll find it.
Found it. Thank you!
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Secrets felt a bit... hmm, not really worthwhile? Like they didn't really reward you with much considering the amount of effort required.
Honestly my biggest gripe overall about the "secrets", considering how much more effort they put into hiding them then they did into giving the player ways to find them.
I mean, I only wasted a couple of hours looking for them and I still felt like I was cheated out of my time, because it's hard to get less rewarding than finding one more key meaning you can find something as utterly amazing as another lousy bit or a triangle or something.
Seriously, give me anything more about the lore of the setting, such as what the hell the big robots from the intro have to do with anything. Or why I'm in this world. Or what a "hyper light drifter" even fucking does. Because there's a pretty wide gulf between "show, don't tell" and the almost nonexistent exposition here.
I will say the "rooms" with the secrets can be pretty badass. Like there's one
on the east side of the library in the North that leads into what feels like an awesome...library headquarters, and then you go farther, down a staircase and outside
and you're high up with a unique vista and it just feels pretty epic. I hear ya on the lore though.
Also re difficulty:
I just can't believe anyone would fight the Western or Northern bosses without multi-dash and think it's even a winnable fight. I'm sure some psycho will do it, but I mean for us mere mortals..
Are there any good pages listing all the available upgrades and prices? Since it takes a fairly long time (at least at the beginning) to get the needed gear bits, I'd rather make informed shopping decisions...
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Secrets felt a bit... hmm, not really worthwhile? Like they didn't really reward you with much considering the amount of effort required.
Honestly my biggest gripe overall about the "secrets", considering how much more effort they put into hiding them then they did into giving the player ways to find them.
I mean, I only wasted a couple of hours looking for them and I still felt like I was cheated out of my time, because it's hard to get less rewarding than finding one more key meaning you can find something as utterly amazing as another lousy bit or a triangle or something.
Seriously, give me anything more about the lore of the setting, such as what the hell the big robots from the intro have to do with anything. Or why I'm in this world. Or what a "hyper light drifter" even fucking does. Because there's a pretty wide gulf between "show, don't tell" and the almost nonexistent exposition here.
I will say the "rooms" with the secrets can be pretty badass. Like there's one
on the east side of the library in the North that leads into what feels like an awesome...library headquarters, and then you go farther, down a staircase and outside
and you're high up with a unique vista and it just feels pretty epic. I hear ya on the lore though.
Also re difficulty:
I just can't believe anyone would fight the Western or Northern bosses without multi-dash and think it's even a winnable fight. I'm sure some psycho will do it, but I mean for us mere mortals..
Yeah I did north with the base kit because I just figured north was first from the about:triangles console using that as the example
Secrets felt a bit... hmm, not really worthwhile? Like they didn't really reward you with much considering the amount of effort required.
Honestly my biggest gripe overall about the "secrets", considering how much more effort they put into hiding them then they did into giving the player ways to find them.
I mean, I only wasted a couple of hours looking for them and I still felt like I was cheated out of my time, because it's hard to get less rewarding than finding one more key meaning you can find something as utterly amazing as another lousy bit or a triangle or something.
Seriously, give me anything more about the lore of the setting, such as what the hell the big robots from the intro have to do with anything. Or why I'm in this world. Or what a "hyper light drifter" even fucking does. Because there's a pretty wide gulf between "show, don't tell" and the almost nonexistent exposition here.
I will say the "rooms" with the secrets can be pretty badass. Like there's one
on the east side of the library in the North that leads into what feels like an awesome...library headquarters, and then you go farther, down a staircase and outside
and you're high up with a unique vista and it just feels pretty epic. I hear ya on the lore though.
Also re difficulty:
I just can't believe anyone would fight the Western or Northern bosses without multi-dash and think it's even a winnable fight. I'm sure some psycho will do it, but I mean for us mere mortals..
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I beat North and then West with more or less the base kit.
That's crazy. The west boss I can maybe see, but honestly if you've got that pause after you dash, the north boss seems like it would be...REALLY hard.
I did west then north. West took me 3 tries and I pretty much only had multi-dash. North took me...I dunno, more than 10, with most things.
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Is there an upgrade that lets you dash through enemies unharmed?
There's a fight I'm slightly stuck on in the East (just started playing) that it would REALLY help for.
the dash attack from the sword trainer lets you go through enemies
most of the time
the big carnivorous plants in the east can't be harmed while they're attacking, but if you do a dash attack into their attack you won't take any damage, at least
What is the difference between the two dash attacks?
I had the dash attack from the dash trainer. It was good against big swarms of weak enemies, but otherwise it was not very useful.
The other one has invulnerability and a push, I gather?
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both have base damage of 2
the dash stab has a bunch of knockback and can be used to cancel your dashes (meaning you can keep yourself from going into a slide after 4+ dashes in a chain)
the slash has contact invulnerability (I thiiiink it is even projectile-immune but I'm not sure), can be canceled into from any standard sword attack, and moves you through enemies
I also think it has a bigger hitbox
I don't think it has any push
which one is better is largely a matter of preference, but the contact invulnerability on the slash makes it undeniably more useful against bosses, against whom the stab does reduced damage and puts you into a brief stun
So other then the black outfit is there any real incentive to play new game + or should I just reload my profile and start hunting for keys if I want to play more Hyper light drifter?
The extra, I assume it was the pink, hunter was available at higher ks tiers where they are available after game clear. There's gonna be dlc for that eventually and supposedly the play style is different
Anyway, the game is great and i got my first outfit (yellowish one, no idea what it does). yayness.
I did the same my first time, though I think the north boss is easier than the west
I respectfully disagree with this lunatic assertion.
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you can rush down the North boss, since his attack pattern is way easier to deal with after he loses a bunch of health
you can also use the power attack on him more frequently since he doesn't have any melee attacks, and he's not more mobile than you without the chain dash like the west boss is
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you can rush down the North boss, since his attack pattern is way easier to deal with after he loses a bunch of health
you can also use the power attack on him more frequently since he doesn't have any melee attacks, and he's not more mobile than you without the chain dash like the west boss is
Yeah, I dunno, maybe constant unpredictable squares of death popping up underneath my feet panicked me. You're not wrong about his attack pattern getting easier to deal with. Took me a number of tries to even get to that point with any health, though.
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obviously if you had a harder time with one than the other, that's not something I can just say you're wrong about
but if I were to recommend a play order to someone coming to the game, I'd probably say east>north>west
that's just as much due to the enemies you fight though, those in the west are way tougher than any of those elsewhere
overall I think the game is pretty well-balanced, it's just that the shotgun is clearly so much better than every other gun, even the one you get five minutes before the last boss
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Yes, because game design from 30 years ago totally justifies poor design decisions for new games.
Something like Arkham Asylum is packed with fun, challenging secrets to find and solve, and there is literally one secret in the entire game which is hidden in such a way that the player would not reasonably be able to find it. And that was an awesomely-hidden easter egg anyway.
HLD's chief problem is some poor design decisions, not that it's too hard or it doesn't have enough "handholding".
But I found a lot of stuff by going "huh, there's some walkable stuff at the edge of the screen" or "oh look, a single conspicuous LED" or "huh, why would there be a dead end here with literally nothing in it". You can pretty quickly get a sense for when there's something available.
(I also smashed my face into every wall just for good measure, so maybe I'm full of shit!)
think i'll just call it there
Personal musings aside, South boss was uh... yeah, kinda pathetically easy, haha. Also if there was a weapon from the South boss, I guess I missed it, cause I didn't see anything. Final boss was really cool. Definitely felt final boss worthy.
Now I'm digging into all these lore theories and such. Crazy.
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Honestly my biggest gripe overall about the "secrets", considering how much more effort they put into hiding them then they did into giving the player ways to find them.
I mean, I only wasted a couple of hours looking for them and I still felt like I was cheated out of my time, because it's hard to get less rewarding than finding one more key meaning you can find something as utterly amazing as another lousy bit or a triangle or something.
Seriously, give me anything more about the lore of the setting, such as what the hell the big robots from the intro have to do with anything. Or why I'm in this world. Or what a "hyper light drifter" even fucking does. Because there's a pretty wide gulf between "show, don't tell" and the almost nonexistent exposition here.
there is a weapon from the south but it's not from the boss
secrets in general aren't super great in this game, it's most important that you just find as many gearbits as you can
the outfits are neat but the most of the ones you can get early are ugly and none of them have a very big impact on the game
Can anyone point me to where the 8-triangle door in the East is? I found the 8 key one, but can't find the door. Is there one? I feel like there must be...
You might know me as D'Brickashaw on Steam.
unfortunately I don't recall where it was - i kind of have a vague idea but I wouldn't want to give ya wrong info
If you look at the map, you'll see a giant monolith to the northwest of the Eastern teleport pad and that's more or less where you'll find it.
Found it. Thank you!
You might know me as D'Brickashaw on Steam.
I will say the "rooms" with the secrets can be pretty badass. Like there's one
Also re difficulty:
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Yeah I did north with the base kit because I just figured north was first from the about:triangles console using that as the example
There's a fight I'm slightly stuck on in the East (just started playing) that it would REALLY help for.
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I beat North and then West with more or less the base kit.
I did west then north. West took me 3 tries and I pretty much only had multi-dash. North took me...I dunno, more than 10, with most things.
the dash attack from the sword trainer lets you go through enemies
most of the time
the big carnivorous plants in the east can't be harmed while they're attacking, but if you do a dash attack into their attack you won't take any damage, at least
I had the dash attack from the dash trainer. It was good against big swarms of weak enemies, but otherwise it was not very useful.
The other one has invulnerability and a push, I gather?
the dash stab has a bunch of knockback and can be used to cancel your dashes (meaning you can keep yourself from going into a slide after 4+ dashes in a chain)
the slash has contact invulnerability (I thiiiink it is even projectile-immune but I'm not sure), can be canceled into from any standard sword attack, and moves you through enemies
I also think it has a bigger hitbox
I don't think it has any push
which one is better is largely a matter of preference, but the contact invulnerability on the slash makes it undeniably more useful against bosses, against whom the stab does reduced damage and puts you into a brief stun
concept art:
there's one notable bug associated with new game+ but it can be resolved in-game
i went North, West then East.
North boss took me, like, over an hour.
West boss? At least half that if not less.
I did the East boss in on my first try.
Anyway, the game is great and i got my first outfit (yellowish one, no idea what it does). yayness.
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I did the same my first time, though I think the north boss is easier than the west
I respectfully disagree with this lunatic assertion.
you can also use the power attack on him more frequently since he doesn't have any melee attacks, and he's not more mobile than you without the chain dash like the west boss is
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Yeah, I dunno, maybe constant unpredictable squares of death popping up underneath my feet panicked me. You're not wrong about his attack pattern getting easier to deal with. Took me a number of tries to even get to that point with any health, though.
but if I were to recommend a play order to someone coming to the game, I'd probably say east>north>west
that's just as much due to the enemies you fight though, those in the west are way tougher than any of those elsewhere
overall I think the game is pretty well-balanced, it's just that the shotgun is clearly so much better than every other gun, even the one you get five minutes before the last boss