So. I enjoy playing the deck I made for constructed. I know it's not great. It will never be great, but I don't have the skill to get higher than like rank 15 anyway, so that doesn't really matter. I WOULD like to try and make the deck a bit better though. It's a C'thun Rogue deck. my biggest bane is aggro, but I'm not really sure how to make it better against aggro.
The taunts are basically just for that, but I dunno. They don't seem to be helping too much.
I'd agree with the more radical advice you got that Reno is...tough. The curve of your deck is kind of on the high side, too, so if you don't draw reno you're prettty screwed. And your C'Thun just isn't likely to be all that strong by the time you play him. Shadowstep helps, if it's in your hand...
But less radical advice that keeps the idea of the deck...
Against serious aggro you need fan of knives. Argent commander looks iffy in this deck, to me. Loot hoarder is very bad against aggro. It's hard to have too much draw, but you probably have too much draw, too. I'd put in Acidic Ooze. Aaand, I'd cut gnomish inventor for Azure Drake. Aaaand, I might try to run Thalnos, too. You have enough damage spells to make it worthwhile.
Sooo..
+Fan of Knives -Argent Commander (or something else if you really like him)--this'd also drop your curve a bit
-Loot Hoarder +Acidic Ooze
-Gnomish Inventor +Azure Drake
+Thalnos -Grizzly maybe?
I'd probably also cut Execute for BGH if you have it. Tough call. Leaves you helpless against Ysera, but a substantial improvement in most other matchups.
edit: I think Kobold Geomancer might be better for you than Thalnos, actually.
Yeah. thinking back on it, I fell into the trap of editing the deck before getting a good sample size of matches. I had like 3 matches in a row where I was just getting all the things I didn't need, so I added more card draw than I already had. I had a few matches where I just got ruined by aggro, so I added the taunts (which didn't really help anyway) I had a few matches where It was a war of attrition, so I reconfigured the deck for Reno, since I don't have much in the way of good heals. So basically my takeaway from this so far is "Yo...you don't know it's broken yet. Don't fix it"
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I'm loving this tavern brawl, honestly.
Games are short and fun. Some decks are pretty clever, too.
So. I enjoy playing the deck I made for constructed. I know it's not great. It will never be great, but I don't have the skill to get higher than like rank 15 anyway, so that doesn't really matter. I WOULD like to try and make the deck a bit better though. It's a C'thun Rogue deck. my biggest bane is aggro, but I'm not really sure how to make it better against aggro.
The taunts are basically just for that, but I dunno. They don't seem to be helping too much.
I'd agree with the more radical advice you got that Reno is...tough. The curve of your deck is kind of on the high side, too, so if you don't draw reno you're prettty screwed. And your C'Thun just isn't likely to be all that strong by the time you play him. Shadowstep helps, if it's in your hand...
But less radical advice that keeps the idea of the deck...
Against serious aggro you need fan of knives. Argent commander looks iffy in this deck, to me. Loot hoarder is very bad against aggro. It's hard to have too much draw, but you probably have too much draw, too. I'd put in Acidic Ooze. Aaand, I'd cut gnomish inventor for Azure Drake. Aaaand, I might try to run Thalnos, too. You have enough damage spells to make it worthwhile.
Sooo..
+Fan of Knives -Argent Commander (or something else if you really like him)--this'd also drop your curve a bit
-Loot Hoarder +Acidic Ooze
-Gnomish Inventor +Azure Drake
+Thalnos -Grizzly maybe?
I'd probably also cut Execute for BGH if you have it. Tough call. Leaves you helpless against Ysera, but a substantial improvement in most other matchups.
edit: I think Kobold Geomancer might be better for you than Thalnos, actually.
Yeah. thinking back on it, I fell into the trap of editing the deck before getting a good sample size of matches. I had like 3 matches in a row where I was just getting all the things I didn't need, so I added more card draw than I already had. I had a few matches where I just got ruined by aggro, so I added the taunts (which didn't really help anyway) I had a few matches where It was a war of attrition, so I reconfigured the deck for Reno, since I don't have much in the way of good heals. So basically my takeaway from this so far is "Yo...you don't know it's broken yet. Don't fix it"
One of the tricky things with Reno decks is that the whole 1-of thing means you need draw to get the cards you need, but the average cost of the cards being a little higher means you don't really want draw in terms of card count (that's how you die with 8 cards in your hand). I think it's typically solved by running comparable cards. Like...you could run BGH AND Execute if you want to make sure you draw something to deal with big threats. It's a tough proposition for rogue in general, though. Which is too bad given how often rogues have to clear minions with their face.
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Alright, Flash Heal + Mind Blast failed horrendously against alarm-o-ancient-one warrior.
I thought Thalnos + Mind Blast was screwed against my next opponent, Eye for an Eye + Forbidden Healing, until I realized I just had to spam Thalnoses on the board until I could OTK him, which I did on turn 8 with 4 8-damage Blasts.
I'm having trouble mulliganing against paladin and warlock. They either are the slowest decks (deathrattle or handlock) or the fastest (zoo and divine shield aggro). Is there anything to do other than pray? Or go for a mediocre hand against either and hope to draw the right part of your deck?
I'm having trouble mulliganing against paladin and warlock. They either are the slowest decks (deathrattle or handlock) or the fastest (zoo and divine shield aggro). Is there anything to do other than pray? Or go for a mediocre hand against either and hope to draw the right part of your deck?
I look at how many cards they're mulliganing back as an indication.
In my experience less cards tossed back usually means Aggro.
I'm having trouble mulliganing against paladin and warlock. They either are the slowest decks (deathrattle or handlock) or the fastest (zoo and divine shield aggro). Is there anything to do other than pray? Or go for a mediocre hand against either and hope to draw the right part of your deck?
Mulligan for fast decks because you'll have less draw steps to fix your draw if you mulligan for slow decks and are wrong.
I'm having trouble mulliganing against paladin and warlock. They either are the slowest decks (deathrattle or handlock) or the fastest (zoo and divine shield aggro). Is there anything to do other than pray? Or go for a mediocre hand against either and hope to draw the right part of your deck?
Mulligan for fast decks because you'll have less draw steps to fix your draw if you mulligan for slow decks and are wrong.
I've tried that but it's tricky because the slower matchups require value. So a turn 6 Justicar could be the difference between life and death in fatigue since the incremental value is huge.
The meta near the top is definitely slower but I lose just enough to the aggro decks out there that mulligans are the difference between 45-50% win rates and 55% win rates.
I appreciate the advice though. I'll try it out and see how it goes.
This brawl is fine I guess. It was definitely novel at the outset but now I am just seeing a lot of the same dumb decks and it's basically boiled down to:
"Is the thing that I am doing more broken than the thing the other guy is doing? If so, I win."
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Use their strategy against them, and hit them in the face for 5.
So far i'm like 0-7 with the things i've tried off the top of my head.
Games are short and fun. Some decks are pretty clever, too.
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One of the tricky things with Reno decks is that the whole 1-of thing means you need draw to get the cards you need, but the average cost of the cards being a little higher means you don't really want draw in terms of card count (that's how you die with 8 cards in your hand). I think it's typically solved by running comparable cards. Like...you could run BGH AND Execute if you want to make sure you draw something to deal with big threats. It's a tough proposition for rogue in general, though. Which is too bad given how often rogues have to clear minions with their face.
I thought Thalnos + Mind Blast was screwed against my next opponent, Eye for an Eye + Forbidden Healing, until I realized I just had to spam Thalnoses on the board until I could OTK him, which I did on turn 8 with 4 8-damage Blasts.
I'm sorry.
It could be worse. At least you'll let him attack with them!
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Coinage has lethal with those roaring torches... so no he won't get to attack.
Unless Coinage goes for the ultimate BM by Ice Blocking through another couple of turns.
I mean.... why wouldn't he?
But anyways, they got to attack last turn it looks like, so that counts!
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Oh, you think Ice Block is going to save you?
What have you tried so far? I've gone thru the druid mill variations, upgrade+heroic strike and taunt+bolster warrior, trogg + lightning storm/trogg+crackle/trogg+totem golem shaman, ice block+fireball mage, ele destruction + hallazeal (very slow), astral communion + deathwing, starving buzzard + wolf / brave archer+leper Hunter, leper + Poweroverwhelming warlock...
You should try the leper PO lock and see what you think.
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"you have already earned 100 gold today"
Blizzard please ;-;
Nothing to stop you earning 100 gold tomorrow, and the day after all the way up until last brawl day.
Should be 4-5 packs worth (on top of your dailies) which will be awesome for you.
Probably too slow since it doesn't really get on the board until turn 6.
Screw being clever.
I look at how many cards they're mulliganing back as an indication.
In my experience less cards tossed back usually means Aggro.
I could be completely wrong though.
Mulligan for fast decks because you'll have less draw steps to fix your draw if you mulligan for slow decks and are wrong.
yeah i'm thinking I might get the first wing of league of explorers for free dollars this weekend
but alternatively am i screwing myself out of a discount since I won't be able to buy the whole thing anymore?
Well, it just beat a Mech Hunter. He dumped his hand on Turn 2, gave me a " Well Played", and then I played Whirlwind x3.
I've tried that but it's tricky because the slower matchups require value. So a turn 6 Justicar could be the difference between life and death in fatigue since the incremental value is huge.
The meta near the top is definitely slower but I lose just enough to the aggro decks out there that mulligans are the difference between 45-50% win rates and 55% win rates.
I appreciate the advice though. I'll try it out and see how it goes.
Ice Block + Frostbolt
once it gets enough mana from Ice block you can't kill em
this was my initial mechwarper idea but then i said "WAIT FUCK I NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO PLAY IRON SENSEI"
Ice Block beats everything except mill.
Mechwarper beats everything except Ice Block.
What's the point?
"Is the thing that I am doing more broken than the thing the other guy is doing? If so, I win."
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