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[Overwatch] It's High Nerf

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    sterling positions himself as a consumer advocate so anything that feels at all exploitative is something he's gonna rail against

    i haven't watched the video but in the past he has been very adamant about it being shitty to implement free to play business models inside of a full retail release because you're essentially double dipping on your customers

    which i agree with in principle but overwatch does it in pretty much the most innocuous way possible and your mileage is gonna vary a lot based on how much this particular thing irks you

    I could do without the whole finding copies of shit I already have, but otherwise I'm fine with the loot boxes the way they are. Mostly because I know I'll eventually get everything anyway, and the whales can fund blizzard for me for future maps/characters.

    I'm ok with finding copies, because they turn into money for buying the specific things that you want.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Dys wrote: »
    got the pacific islander roadhog skin



    :/

    That one's not as bad as the Native American Pharah one, I think.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but someone pointed out before that Roadhog's name implies he is at least partially of Pacific Islander descent.

    His size makes him an honorary Samoan at least.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    From a visual standpoint I think Symmetra is the coolest character

    I just don't really know much about her

    I found a pretty good Overwatch lore YouTube channel the other night but they didn't do a Symmetra video yet so I'm waiting on that one

    She's got a comic up that's worth reading. Other than that the main key notes are that she's the star employee of Vishkar. A construction company that's grown significantly with all the work from the First Omnic Crisis. All her turrets and stuff are made out of the hard light technology Vishkar provides.

    Lucio hates her because Vishkar aren't exactly big on freedom of expression vs quality of life.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    And didn't someone do the math and put getting everything even with low end duplicates between 80-150$ total median? Most microtransactions want that per day from their whales.

    By comparison, the micro he praises of pvz2 , 1000$ is barely guaranteed to get you 65-75% of their stuff.

    ( seriously him picking one of the worst systems to date to choose to praise while bashing overwatch has me boggled)

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    Had a real awkward Reinhardt moment earlier today, where inside a building in Numbani I ulted to knock a couple people down. Trouble is, I couldn't walk forward to smack them for some reason, and they both stood up and shot me to death.

    The kill cam showed me that during the fight, an explosion had launched me behind a desk as I used my ult. Because of my hammer swings and the similarity between the floor and desktop textures, I hadn't noticed from my point of view. So I got to be an embarrassed German secretary man for a bit.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    winston is slowly becoming my favorite tank

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    winston is slowly becoming my favorite tank

    Playing him is a great way to work out my widowmaker rage

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    i like both the highly disruptive playstyle and also his weapon is easy to use when you're on console

    i used him to solve some genji trubs just now

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    And didn't someone do the math and put getting everything even with low end duplicates between 80-150$ total median? Most microtransactions want that per day from their whales.

    By comparison, the micro he praises of pvz2 , 1000$ is barely guaranteed to get you 65-75% of their stuff.

    ( seriously him picking one of the worst systems to date to choose to praise while bashing overwatch has me boggled)

    the projection I heard was more on the order of a thousand or something

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Symmetra as a character is just. so. boring.

    Thems fighting words.

    Every other character is so fun just at a glance and has so much character and she's just...a kinda serious looking woman with some cybernetics...

    Like as somebody who does freelance 3D modelling a character what makes CG tangible should be super interesting to me but she just has no personality.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    She doesn't actually have cybernetics if you're talking about her arm. You can see it's just a techy sleeve on her Vishkar skins.

    I kinda just personally adore her because she's a character whose implied to be on the autism spectrum without devolving into some shitty, Big Bang level stereotype of them. She doesn't like people and doesn't entirely get them in her dialogue but it's also clear she's really great at her job and appreciates getting to do what she does.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    She doesn't actually have cybernetics if you're talking about her arm. You can see it's just a techy sleeve on her Vishkar skins.

    I kinda just personally adore her because she's a character whose implied to be on the autism spectrum without devolving into some shitty, Big Bang level stereotype of them. She doesn't like people and doesn't entirely get them in her dialogue but it's also clear she's really great at her job and appreciates getting to do what she does.

    the alternate skins are non-canon though, like pre-cyberghost reaper or young soldier 76, I think her arm is probably robotic on her normal skin

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Some of the skins are clearly designed to show other bits of the character like Young 76 basically being him when he was in Overwatch or Security chief Pharah being during her corporate days.

    Plus most of the characters you see that are amputees are ones that were part of Overwatch/The First Omnic crisis like McCree and Torbjorn.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    She doesn't actually have cybernetics if you're talking about her arm. You can see it's just a techy sleeve on her Vishkar skins.

    I kinda just personally adore her because she's a character whose implied to be on the autism spectrum without devolving into some shitty, Big Bang level stereotype of them. She doesn't like people and doesn't entirely get them in her dialogue but it's also clear she's really great at her job and appreciates getting to do what she does.

    I've known people at various points on that spectrum and I think I would have liked to see different portrayals rather than the very dry take on it they're going with. That's just personal preference. Mostly for me it's just that her visual design is so generic and not in an evocative way. I remember watching a feature on one of the SSX games talking about how they design characters to get their personality across immediately even if it's a really broad take because those games aren't story heavy. Nothing about Symettra's character model or animation does that for me the way literally every other character in the game does.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Zoel wrote: »
    I mean I'll come right out and say it.

    I think loot boxes are basically the candy cigarettes of gambling.

    Blizzard has a right to charge people money for their products, but at the very least they should publicly disclose the chance at which you will win a specific tier of loot from a purchased box.

    Late on this but this is what most gacha games do in Japan now, whenever a new gacha rotates in you can preview the items you could win and see drop rates

    Coincidentally it's become a big trend to run events where your chances of getting super super rare items from the gacha are uncreased drastically

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    So does the game save any video automatically? I see people reposting Play of the Game moments online, but I don't see anywhere to save or view them.

    I see I have some in game currency now...but how do you spend it? I don't see any sort of conversion or option to use it anywhere.

    What is Zarya supposed to do? I really like her design, but she doesn't do damage and her shields last for about one second but take ten to recharge. So I just stand there a lot.

    What does McCree's super do? I've used it, had people on screen and hit fire, and nothing happened. I've never seen him shoot/kill anyone.

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    So does the game save any video automatically? I see people reposting Play of the Game moments online, but I don't see anywhere to save or view them.

    Most people use Playstation Share or something like OBS/X Split/Fraps for PC. The game does save 'highlights' which stores up to five good moments till you turn off the game.


    Reynolds wrote: »
    I see I have some in game currency now...but how do you spend it? I don't see any sort of conversion or option to use it anywhere.

    If you go to the hero gallery you can browse all the possible unlocks and then purchase what you want.
    Reynolds wrote: »

    What is Zarya supposed to do? I really like her design, but she doesn't do damage and her shields last for about one second but take ten to recharge. So I just stand there a lot.

    Zarya gets damage the more damage her shields take and also has 200 health of shields that regenerate. She's a tank that loves standing on the front line for short, bursty periods and becomes a god if people feed her energy. This videos pretty much the best example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxegKAqMZ2o

    Reynolds wrote: »
    What does McCree's super do? I've used it, had people on screen and hit fire, and nothing happened. I've never seen him shoot/kill anyone.

    McCree's ultimate auto hits everyone on screen when you fire. However if you wait and watch you'll see all your enemies have a circle that's getting steadily smaller. It represents a percentage of your opponents health and when it turns red your shot will do 100% of their health.

    Basically hit Q, wait for one or two red circles to show up, fire.

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    So does the game save any video automatically? I see people reposting Play of the Game moments online, but I don't see anywhere to save or view them.

    I see I have some in game currency now...but how do you spend it? I don't see any sort of conversion or option to use it anywhere.

    What is Zarya supposed to do? I really like her design, but she doesn't do damage and her shields last for about one second but take ten to recharge. So I just stand there a lot.

    What does McCree's super do? I've used it, had people on screen and hit fire, and nothing happened. I've never seen him shoot/kill anyone.

    Not sure about saving video.

    You can spend in-game money on the screen where you can change what skins etc you have equipped.

    Zarya does more damage when her shields block stuff.

    McCree's ulti needs a second or so to lock on to each target then you shoot and pretty much kill everyone.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    So does the game save any video automatically? I see people reposting Play of the Game moments online, but I don't see anywhere to save or view them.

    I see I have some in game currency now...but how do you spend it? I don't see any sort of conversion or option to use it anywhere.

    What is Zarya supposed to do? I really like her design, but she doesn't do damage and her shields last for about one second but take ten to recharge. So I just stand there a lot.

    What does McCree's super do? I've used it, had people on screen and hit fire, and nothing happened. I've never seen him shoot/kill anyone.

    not really most people use Plays TV or some other video service to record the highlight or PotG and then post it I don't know how they do it to gyfcat.com but that's on the computer
    The Credits you just spend to unlock things in game where it has the lock icon you can unlock it for X credits
    The two characters I have no idea as I don't play them

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    on console ive found that Junkrat is very easy and effective to play as, since everyone cant aim as well as on PC, any character that can just spam shots is pretty effective. I wouldnt say hes overpowered, but I dont think I've ever not done personally extremely well using him, to the point where it feels like im being a dick just lobbing grenades everywhere

    Zaryas sheilds are confusing at first, but basically you want to wait to use them until youre basically already taking damage, so that you trick people into wasting their shots on you, which the shield will absorb and channel into your gun damage amplifier. Timing them to block an ultimate use is also really good. Id say shes probably the most difficult tank to master but can be an absolute bastard to fight against if the person using her knows what theyre doing

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I really have to find a group to play with as I am getting tired of the racist comments you hear people yell back at each other over the in game mic
    I am really tired of the lack of teamwork as I deal with that at work I don't want to deal with it in game
    I had some really awful games as people just throw themselves at the enemy and I feel silly if I try to do anything

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Zarya is the tank that needs the mos situational awareness because in alot of ways she plays like a support. Except where as with Mercy you only need to focus on your team with Zarya you need to focus on literally everyone around you.

    She's probably the toughest tank to do well with at a basic level. Even if I'd say she's not too tricky once you get the hang of her. I definitely do better on her than I do Winston or Reindhart.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    its weird I feel like everyone gave up on mics on consoles. Ive never played COD so maybe its still bad there, but most console games are relatively silent so you dont have that problem. Im lucky tho, all my friends have xbox one, and we share games (family sharing is a thing kind of on xbox one, I know everyone thinks it dissapeared but it still exists, you can make a console your home console, then log in to a friends console, and they can play your games while you play them, ie you can both be online and signed into your profile, but play one version of a digital game, its legal and awesome, look it up!), so we all play together

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    She is one of the best counter tanks in the game, being an insane counter to the snipers and Mei. Like just a straight up 'Fuck You' to Mei.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    I have barely used Zarya,to the point where I am not 100% sure on her mechanics.

    Does using her weapon or its alt fire deplete her charge? And is one mode of fire more optimal to use than the other?

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    ShabootyShabooty Registered User regular
    i found out tonight that zarya's shield stops rein's ult from stunning you

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Her charge depletes over time. There is a counter above her targeting reticule that lets you know what level her charge is at.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    Yeah, I knew that, but I was unsure if active use depleted it as well.

    Thanks, though.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    Dys wrote: »
    got the pacific islander roadhog skin



    :/

    That one's not as bad as the Native American Pharah one, I think.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but someone pointed out before that Roadhog's name implies he is at least partially of Pacific Islander descent.

    His size makes him an honorary Samoan at least.

    A Samoan Hug Machine?

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Got the weird alien head lucio skin

    at least I play lucio more than road hog

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Dys wrote: »
    Yeah, I knew that, but I was unsure if active use depleted it as well.

    Thanks, though.

    Oh.

    No, it doesn't.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    I simply can't criticise any form of micro transaction that has ZERO impact on gameplay and means we get new maps for free

    Plants v Zombies is a terrible example as well because the sticker packs have massive gameplay benefits in terms of spawning mobs and unlocking characters with more powers

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    DysDys how am I even using this gun Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Got the weird alien head lucio skin

    at least I play lucio more than road hog

    It's a frog, like his logo on his shirt.

    The lights around it actually change between yellow and green to indicate what you're boosting, in addition to how the skates normally do.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    It's also a pretty big nod to Deadmau5

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    LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    Dys wrote: »
    got the pacific islander roadhog skin



    :/

    That one's not as bad as the Native American Pharah one, I think.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but someone pointed out before that Roadhog's name implies he is at least partially of Pacific Islander descent.

    I think he's Maori. Makes sense with him being friends with the Australian.

    I have a podcast about Digimon called the Digital Moncast, on Audio Entropy.
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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Dys wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Got the weird alien head lucio skin

    at least I play lucio more than road hog

    It's a frog, like his logo on his shirt.

    The lights around it actually change between yellow and green to indicate what you're boosting, in addition to how the skates normally do.

    Frogs are basically aliens (that is neat though I didn't notice that connection)

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    Man I love Soldier 76 but I'm just not a fan of his high end skins at all. I'll probably grab one of the purple ones and leave it at that

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    I like Reinhardts Epic White and Gold skin better than any of his legendaries

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The Rein has some amazing skins.

    From his Old Man Snake camo skin to his Demon skins to his Knight sknis.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Really the only Legendaries I actually like more than the original designs are Scarecrow Junkrat, Steampunk and B. Va D. Va and Biker Torbjorn

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