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[MSPA & Undertale] Yes, Homestuck is actually over | Vol. 10 out now

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
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    arguably the best image homestuck has ever produced

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    i laughed at it for several minutes straight last night and it's still making me crack up

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    WV/the mayor is the best character in homestuck

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Everyone loves the Mayor.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    speaking of the mayor

    Episode 10: Let Me Tell You About Can Town

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    It's time to get Ashley formally acquainted with the secret best character in Homestuck, the Wawyward Vagabond. Luke and Ashley boggle vacantly at his shenanigans as he constructs an elaborate fantasy of municipal democracy, inadvertantly forshadows details of events to come, makes friends with a cute little firefly, and eats every vaguely green-colored object in sight.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    so I'm gonna leave this outside of spoilers because ashley's well past this point

    but this page has got me thinking about WV's pawn revolution

    and it's got me thinking about how it's established that every session has a Jack and his crew, and how players could take advantage of that (as the trolls do)

    so presumably there's also always a WV (and a PM and an AR) and players could potentially form an alliance with him to take out the black king

    and just... MAN there's so much about the mechanics and potential of SBURB that I want to see explored further

    I want a fucking homestuck extended universe

    and I know it flies in the face of the themes of predestination and time shenanigans, but I still *really* want a tabletop SBURB system

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    so I'm gonna leave this outside of spoilers because ashley's well past this point

    but this page has got me thinking about WV's pawn revolution

    and it's got me thinking about how it's established that every session has a Jack and his crew, and how players could take advantage of that (as the trolls do)

    so presumably there's also always a WV (and a PM and an AR) and players could potentially form an alliance with him to take out the black king

    and just... MAN there's so much about the mechanics and potential of SBURB that I want to see explored further

    I want a fucking homestuck extended universe

    and I know it flies in the face of the themes of predestination and time shenanigans, but I still *really* want a tabletop SBURB system

    a hypothetical SBURB roguelike with procedurally generated planets and weapons that you can combine arbitrarily would be super cool

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    so I'm gonna leave this outside of spoilers because ashley's well past this point

    but this page has got me thinking about WV's pawn revolution

    and it's got me thinking about how it's established that every session has a Jack and his crew, and how players could take advantage of that (as the trolls do)

    so presumably there's also always a WV (and a PM and an AR) and players could potentially form an alliance with him to take out the black king

    and just... MAN there's so much about the mechanics and potential of SBURB that I want to see explored further

    I want a fucking homestuck extended universe

    and I know it flies in the face of the themes of predestination and time shenanigans, but I still *really* want a tabletop SBURB system

    Well, if Hiveswap does well, we could totally see some of these ideas explored by What Pumpkin.

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    So uh, is there going to be a new thread after this?

    I would really hate to no post my thoughts on the ending after all this time.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    the clubs deuce world tour will be continuing for like 5-10 more years

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    We'll need a new thread for the epilogue and Hiveswap. The Ride Never Ends.

    Moth 13 on
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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Ms Dapper wrote: »
    So uh, is there going to be a new thread after this?

    I would really hate to no post my thoughts on the ending after all this time.
    Take over the podcast thread

    Rule it with an iron fist

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    so I'm gonna leave this outside of spoilers because ashley's well past this point

    but this page has got me thinking about WV's pawn revolution

    and it's got me thinking about how it's established that every session has a Jack and his crew, and how players could take advantage of that (as the trolls do)

    so presumably there's also always a WV (and a PM and an AR) and players could potentially form an alliance with him to take out the black king

    and just... MAN there's so much about the mechanics and potential of SBURB that I want to see explored further

    I want a fucking homestuck extended universe

    and I know it flies in the face of the themes of predestination and time shenanigans, but I still *really* want a tabletop SBURB system

    Pay me in love and i will make a great Homestuck card Game.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Ms Dapper wrote: »
    So uh, is there going to be a new thread after this?

    I would really hate to no post my thoughts on the ending after all this time.

    undertale's a pretty popular game no reason not to have a thread for it

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    If we didn't have an Undertale thread, I'd have nowhere to have sudden hot fridge realizations.

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    CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    so I'm gonna leave this outside of spoilers because ashley's well past this point

    but this page has got me thinking about WV's pawn revolution

    and it's got me thinking about how it's established that every session has a Jack and his crew, and how players could take advantage of that (as the trolls do)

    so presumably there's also always a WV (and a PM and an AR) and players could potentially form an alliance with him to take out the black king

    and just... MAN there's so much about the mechanics and potential of SBURB that I want to see explored further

    I want a fucking homestuck extended universe

    and I know it flies in the face of the themes of predestination and time shenanigans, but I still *really* want a tabletop SBURB system

    I've thought a little bit about how you might design a tabletop SBURB system, but I have a lot of trouble imagining how it would work in practice. To really capture the spirit of Homestuck the rules would need to be needlessly complicated. Like, the kind of system where the players spend an hour just trying to figure out how their randomly assigned sylladex systems work. But in practice, that wouldn't be fun to play. Finding the right balance between "feels like Homestuck" and "is a good game" would be difficult.

    One approach that might be neat would be to make a distinction in the rules between the players and the player characters. Frame it so that instead of "You" being one of kids playing SBURB, "You" are one of the chess pawns directing a kid playing SBURB, who under certain circumstances might not do what you say. It retains the "you are inputting commands for someone else to follow" aspect of Homestuck and opens up opportunities for random nonsense to happen that you didn't intend.

    I've already put too much thought into this.

    I have a twitter.
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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    so I'm gonna leave this outside of spoilers because ashley's well past this point

    but this page has got me thinking about WV's pawn revolution

    and it's got me thinking about how it's established that every session has a Jack and his crew, and how players could take advantage of that (as the trolls do)

    so presumably there's also always a WV (and a PM and an AR) and players could potentially form an alliance with him to take out the black king

    and just... MAN there's so much about the mechanics and potential of SBURB that I want to see explored further

    I want a fucking homestuck extended universe

    and I know it flies in the face of the themes of predestination and time shenanigans, but I still *really* want a tabletop SBURB system

    a hypothetical SBURB roguelike with procedurally generated planets and weapons that you can combine arbitrarily would be super cool

    You'd probably have to get rid of the "need a time and a space player to win" thing for any free form style game adaptation.

    I never really liked that bit of lore anyway though.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    presumably the DM could fill in time or space players as NPCs if none of the actual players want those roles

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Those would be awful important NPCs.

    Better just to ignore it.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Adjust the lore such that other aspects can fit that role. Surely stuff like breath or life could become a proper frog breeder, for example.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    i don't know what kind of sburb system you guys are thinking of emulating

    just kill off all your players

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    Also the space player always has to be living by a volcano or else you can't win? That seems somewhat limiting.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Also dump most of the classes being tied to gender. That was a real stupid idea.

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    CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    Also the space player always has to be living by a volcano or else you can't win? That seems somewhat limiting.

    Kanaya's hive isn't anywhere near a volcano. If the player doesn't live by one, the player's land will presumably generate one anyway.

    EDIT: Never mind, apparently her forge was buried in the desert nearby.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    Also the space player always has to be living by a volcano or else you can't win? That seems somewhat limiting.

    See, you're ignoring/forgetting the relationship Sburb has with causality. If you're going to play Sburb, you will have been set up since birth to play this game, including any contrivances needed for you to fulfill your in-game role.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    the players initially only being able to interact through the internet or some equivalent would make the early game pretty compelling, I think

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    Also the space player always has to be living by a volcano or else you can't win? That seems somewhat limiting.

    See, you're ignoring/forgetting the relationship Sburb has with causality. If you're going to play Sburb, you will have been set up since birth to play this game, including any contrivances needed for you to fulfill your in-game role.

    ??? We're talking about restrictions the setting has on creating whatever kind of character you want.

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    This Gamzee/Terezi shit is real bad.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Yeah it's way more uncomfortable than I remember it being

    I don't know why he felt the need to state that Gamzee was physically abusing Terezi immediately before he beats the shit out of her for like 30 pages

    It turns what could be a funny, dramatic, visually interesting scene into something incredibly uncomfortable and gross

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    There's so much good stuff going on there, just the ways the glitches are used to show transitions or show what characters are seeing/thinking. There's a lot of good funny stuff and then in the middle of it there's Terezi apologizing to Gamzee after he fucked her up for years and then just panel after panel of her getting the shit beat out of her.

    Then they try to make it a silly joke and it just makes it look worse.

    The air was pretty much sucked out of both our rooms.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    FINALLY

    CAN TOWN

    (man, act 6 ... I know people say it reads better in an archive trawl, but it's like, early HS was 99% good shit to 1% problematic shit but in Act 6 the ratio has swung way closer to like, 70-30 or something and man. Man.)

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Yeah act 6 definitely has more low points than the rest of the comic

    It's not enough to sink the whole thing for me but I can see now how it would be

    Which is a shame because I think the good stuff in act 6 is really good

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    In other, still sad news these two lines killed me.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    at some point homestuck stopped trying to strike a balance between commentary on game systems/programming and game narratives (which is easily my favorite iteration of homestuck) and just starts commenting on narratives at large (which is when it loses me)

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    at some point homestuck stopped trying to strike a balance between commentary on game systems/programming and game narratives (which is easily my favorite iteration of homestuck) and just starts commenting on narratives at large (which is when it loses me)

    Yeah see i completely that shit up

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    The whole thing?

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    The commentary on narratives

    Please infuse your story with as much literature 101 bullshit as possible I love it

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