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budec
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Monday I'm going to our corporate office in NY, I need to be "business casual". I have a lot of good shirts, but need suggestions on pants. Can I just wear khakis or cargo pants? I heard that I wasn't suppose to wear white anymore cause it was past labor day? So I can't wear a white shirt?
Tie isn't required.
Black pants? Can I go wrong with black pants? What about Tan pants?
Also how the crap do I tuck my shirt in? Every time I tuck it in, it looks all goofy and stupid.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Billgates.jpg
That made me laugh for some reason.
Tie isn't required.
Black pants? Can I go wrong with black pants? What about Tan pants?
Also how the crap do I tuck my shirt in? Every time I tuck it in, it looks all goofy and stupid.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Billgates.jpg
That made me laugh for some reason.
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The type you button up and tuck in. Business casual type of shirts that are meant to be all tucked in... tucked into the pants. :winky:
Doc is pretty much right, but don't forget the shoes. No tennis shoes, although you don't usually need fancy dress shoes either. Something like Rockports are usually pretty good.
The easiest thing to do is go to one of those men's clothing stores (e.g. Men's Wearhouse or something) and ask one of the guys there. Tell 'em your budget and what you are wanting, and they'll hook you up. You'll only feel weird the first time you do it.
Remember, business casual starts with business. It is taking business and making it more casual, not taking casual and making it more business. This is also why cargo pants don't apply -- cargo pants are most definately casual.
My standard 'business casual' is dress pants, sports jacket, or a suit, + business collared shirt minus the tie, or a turtle neck shirt (not sweater). The jacket is optional but is really what makes it 'business' to me, as opposed to 'office wear'. 'Office wear' is considered business casual though.
You know those guys in board rooms wearing suits and ties? that is business. Make it a bit more casual -- lose the tie or the jacket or both. That is business casual.
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for tucking in, tuck them in tight, then pull it out a bit evenly. Raise your hands over your head and see if it pulls the shirt out -- if it does, you're going to mess up your shirt just by moving around. Adjust as needed. That's what i do.
btw, those are my shirts that I linked to. Just an example of the type of shirt I was taking about... the ones that button up in front.
Good advice for any situation. A lot of people (ladies!) take notice of what shoes a guy wears.
Tucking the shirt in is always the hardest part for me, probably because i used to be fat and im self concious about clothes that outline my body. Best way ive found is to tuck the shirt in really tight, lift your arms straight up above your head, and then fold the shirt over so its almost covering your belt. if theres a lot of slack, tuck it back in, but make sure there is enough folded over the belt so that if you move, stretch, or have to reach up high, the shirt doesnt come untucked and make you look like a slob.
And yes, shoes are important. Dont wear running shoes. Black dress shoes or something similarily formal.
Also, i feel your pain. I hate when we visit an office that has business casual dress code, or worse, suit and tie. Just makes me appreciate my office so much more. Im sure the clients would die if they ever saw what we wear to work
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Simple = good here. Ditch the short-sleeved button-up shirts and get a single-color long one. No patterns or prints. A sky-blue shirt with a pair of regulation-tan khakis is perfect for what you're looking for--notice how in Serpent's image, dark colors on top mean light colors on bottom, and vice-versa. It's not a rules, but it's a good guideline.
Also, ditch the cotton socks. Get some brown or black wool dress socks (you'll find them in the men's show department), because when you sit down, your pant cuffs will raise. White cotton socks are a no-no, just as tennis or canvas shoes are a no-no.
One optional piece would be a nice-looking watch, but that isn't necessary. Only if you already have one.
If you're wearing brown shoes and khaki pants, your socks should be lighter than your shoes but darker than your pants.
haha made you look