i'm mostly delighted by all the conservative pundits eating their livers over what their party has become. Not just realizing it, but doing so publicly.
And it's not a small amount either, and not nobody names. Some of the names are known conservative bloggers and luminaries who are basically admitting their party has lost it's mind. On some level, I feel bad for them. As much as I disagree with their politics on a lot of issues, I think most of them are probably good folks who are watching something they believed in fall to utter shit under a demagogue.
It's been said before by me and others but: I don't feel the least tiniest bit sorry for them. They caused this mess with decades of stoking fear, rage and hatred in a cynical bid for their permanent Republican majority, and the result has been more than just reducing their party to a shambles. They've killed off journalism, ushered in gridlock, and brought toxic racism and misogyny roaring back into the mainstream.
There isn't a violin tiny enough for them.
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So I'm 45 pages and 2 days worth of convention behind, but thats okay because I'm going to hunker down in my hopium den, draw the curtains and mainline some hopium right into my fucking veins. Any suggestions on which speeches to watch?
My tentative schedule is as follows:
Eleanor Holmes Norton - DC doesnt get much of a say in the workings of government the least I can do is listen to their rep at the DNC
Anyone from California
Bill de Blasio
Jesse Jackson
Karen Weaver
GK Butterfield (dat name)
Gavin Newsom
Mike Duggan
Martin O'Malley
Sigourney Weaver - mostly because she's sitting between O'Malley and Jerry Brown
Jerry Brown
All of the victims of gun violence - gotta make sure I don't hopverdose so I'm gunna make see the inside rain again
Military folks
The Bidens
Bloomberg - fuck it why not
Tim Kaine
The 44th President of the United States Barack Obama
Antonio Villaraigosa
Maxine Waters - might skip since she's on the schedule for Wednesday
Chad Griffin
Sean Maloney
Dolores Huerta
Eric Garcetti
Tammy Duckworth
Nancy Pelosi
Barbara Mikulski
Democratic Women of the Senate
Joaquin Castro
Andrew Cuomo
Jennifer Lim
Fallen law enforcement
Khizr Khan
Ted Lieu
Xavier Becerra
The Clintons
Okay, looking at this list I think I'm going to be spending a little too much time in the hopium den...
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the General that spoke today was good imo, but I honestly can't say if I would personally find him worth looking for if I hadn't caught him live but I'm quite happy I did
more happy that that message was at the DNC than that it personally resonated.
I'll definitely add Barber, but I gotta listen to the California reps so as much as I dont really care for her oratory style I'm going to be sitting through it.
I posted the NYT earlier. Some more of the rest of America's top 10 newspapers. Chicago Tribune, Sun-Times, and Denver Post haven't posted theirs, yet.
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I guess it was Monday.
Monday was a real strong day.
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I, uh, kind of like the New York Post's front page there, even though I guess it's supposed to be a dig at Hillary? If it is, it's not really something that resonates as an attack with me, but I'm pretty sure I'm not their target audience anyway.
If I'm wrong about the New York Post being generally right-wing in its presentation, then somebody please correct me, because I can never keep these New York / Washington Post / Times things straight.
I, uh, kind of like the New York Post's front page there, even though I guess it's supposed to be a dig at Hillary? If it is, it's not really something that resonates as an attack with me, but I'm pretty sure I'm not their target audience anyway.
If I'm wrong about the New York Post being generally right-wing in its presentation, then somebody please correct me, because I can never keep these New York / Washington Post / Times things straight.
NY Post and Washington Times are bonkers conservative, Washington Post wants to bomb everyone and cut entitlements but is for minority rights so get called liberal somehow, New York Times is basically NPR liberal. Not willing to condemn the GOP but politely supports liberal stuff.
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As an Australian following this, how was the takeaway from the DNC for the folks in this thread? Getting a pretty good vibe from everything I've read\seen.
It was incredible and made me feel proud of my party. We somehow managed to shift the party platform markedly to the left while reclaiming the moral center of the country that the Republicans have dominated for my entire lifetime.
I can't stress my joy over the italicized. 04 is the first election I followed, largely because 2000 was the first one I really understood, and I've never grasped why the dems couldn't make this argument.
She said EVERYTHING I've always wanted to hear, she made the point for the things I believe in a way that pays full respect to love of country.
This shit has been cemented in the public consciousness since at least the Vietnam War. In many ways, I'd call that whole era the origin of alot of these ideas of what "left" and "right" values are in America too. There's been alot of attempts to fight back on this conception too at various times, at various levels for various parts of it, but it's never really seemed to work. I'd blame part of it on the sheer laziness of the media and the public and such in just sticking to the standard playbook and ignoring what's going on.
I think in alot of ways this is the first time the Democrats really could hit back hard at this issue because Trump has presented a sort of unique opportunity based on his reputation and ideas. He ceded the terrain on a ton of these core ideas and the Democrats have, smartly, surged in and taken it. They positioned themselves to be the ones defending America from Trump and his Russian buddies. At least for the moment anyway. We'll see how it all plays out. But they saw the opening and they made probably the best play you could hope for it.
This is from a while ago, but I just found it. From Jane Coaston, who is awesome but usually I read her write about football.
OF COURSE I’M FUCKING CALCULATING. I’M RUNNING FOR GODDAMN PRESIDENT. THIS SHIT TAKES CALCULATION AND FORETHOUGHT AND TABULATION AND EXCEL SPREADSHEETS BECAUSE SOME STATES HAVE OPEN CAUCUSES AND SOME STATES HAVE CLOSED PRIMARIES AND OTHER STATES HAVE, I DON’T KNOW, A HIGH PRIEST SHEEP WHO DECIDES, AND I HAVE TO KNOW WHICH IS WHICH. FOR. FUCK’S. SAKE.
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I, uh, kind of like the New York Post's front page there, even though I guess it's supposed to be a dig at Hillary? If it is, it's not really something that resonates as an attack with me, but I'm pretty sure I'm not their target audience anyway.
If I'm wrong about the New York Post being generally right-wing in its presentation, then somebody please correct me, because I can never keep these New York / Washington Post / Times things straight.
Right wing media loves to bring up the $200,000 speaking fee thing because "oh look she's rich and out of touch".
The "transcripts" thing is based on an attack Bernie made repeatedly during the primaries about how she gave a speech to Goldman Sachs "and she won't release the transcript!" The right wing has picked it up and added it to the arsenal.
You'll notice the NY Post also used the most unflattering photo they could find for the story.
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I, uh, kind of like the New York Post's front page there, even though I guess it's supposed to be a dig at Hillary? If it is, it's not really something that resonates as an attack with me, but I'm pretty sure I'm not their target audience anyway.
If I'm wrong about the New York Post being generally right-wing in its presentation, then somebody please correct me, because I can never keep these New York / Washington Post / Times things straight.
Right wing media loves to bring up the $200,000 speaking fee thing because "oh look she's rich and out of touch".
The "transcripts" thing is based on an attack Bernie made repeatedly during the primaries about how she gave a speech to Goldman Sachs "and she won't release the transcript!" The right wing has picked it up and added it to the arsenal.
You'll notice the NY Post also used the most unflattering photo they could find for the story.
Remember the trump ghostwriter who's entire existence was debatable because people wondered if she was a fictitious fall person?
Ok stayed up way past my bedtime but- I will lend you my copy of the constitution - That is major MAJOR burn!
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I'm up through the Congressional Black Caucus and while Jesse Jackson was a little disappointing (I think the first half of his speech was really him just stating things he couldnt believe he would have to address), but I really like his "Its healing time, its hope time, its Hillary time".
Hakeem Jeffries kinda upstaged him though:
1) its a choice between the most qualified vs the least qualified
2) Secretary of State vs Secretary of Hate
3) Donald Trump is a bounced check, Hillary Clinton is money in the banksoo good
I was hoping to get through Wednesday tonight, but its 2am and I have work in the morning. Gunna watch Harry Reid and Gavin Newsom and call it a night... Wednesday's convention has been good though.
I, uh, kind of like the New York Post's front page there, even though I guess it's supposed to be a dig at Hillary? If it is, it's not really something that resonates as an attack with me, but I'm pretty sure I'm not their target audience anyway.
If I'm wrong about the New York Post being generally right-wing in its presentation, then somebody please correct me, because I can never keep these New York / Washington Post / Times things straight.
Right wing media loves to bring up the $200,000 speaking fee thing because "oh look she's rich and out of touch".
The "transcripts" thing is based on an attack Bernie made repeatedly during the primaries about how she gave a speech to Goldman Sachs "and she won't release the transcript!" The right wing has picked it up and added it to the arsenal.
You'll notice the NY Post also used the most unflattering photo they could find for the story.
If the cover was coming from a place I'd expect a joke it'd be a really funny one but I have a hunch it's actually meant to be serious and so it's not as funny in that context.
I read that President Obama decides what is included in Trump's security briefings.
My instant "OhThankGoodness!" response was quickly replaced by a surge of amusement that Obama could put anything in those briefings and Trump would believe it and repeat it at parties.
PHILADELPHIA—In a stirring, heartfelt address Thursday night at the Democratic National Convention in which she laid out her vision for the future of the United States, presidential nominee Hillary Clinton stated that every young girl in the country deserved “an equal opportunity to one day feel raw, unbridled power coursing through her body.” “I want to live in an America where every single girl has the chance to feel that the entire world is her puppet to command and to become intoxicated by the overwhelming euphoria that comes with knowing she can crush anyone, anywhere, at any time,” said Clinton, her voice growing louder and more emphatic as she suggested that Americans needed to do more to close the gender gap and ensure that female youths from all walks of life could pursue futures in which they’re continuously possessed by a rapturous bliss from wielding sweeping authority constrained by no legal or moral bounds. “My dream is that someday soon, it will not seem at all out of the ordinary for my granddaughter to literally quake with exhilaration from holding dominion over millions of people who have no choice but to comply with her every word. I will do everything I can to make sure that she, and every young girl like her, grows up in a nation that places no restrictions on her opportunities to feel total, limitless power pumping through her every vein.” Clinton concluded by listing several policy proposals that she hoped would help spark an unquenchable fire for control deep inside young girls’ very cores and set them on a path to eventually basking in the warm, all-consuming glow of possessing unchecked supremacy.
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It's been said before by me and others but: I don't feel the least tiniest bit sorry for them. They caused this mess with decades of stoking fear, rage and hatred in a cynical bid for their permanent Republican majority, and the result has been more than just reducing their party to a shambles. They've killed off journalism, ushered in gridlock, and brought toxic racism and misogyny roaring back into the mainstream.
There isn't a violin tiny enough for them.
My tentative schedule is as follows:
Eleanor Holmes Norton - DC doesnt get much of a say in the workings of government the least I can do is listen to their rep at the DNC
Anyone from California
Bill de Blasio
Jesse Jackson
Karen Weaver
GK Butterfield (dat name)
Gavin Newsom
Mike Duggan
Martin O'Malley
Sigourney Weaver - mostly because she's sitting between O'Malley and Jerry Brown
Jerry Brown
All of the victims of gun violence - gotta make sure I don't hopverdose so I'm gunna make see the inside rain again
Military folks
The Bidens
Bloomberg - fuck it why not
Tim Kaine
The 44th President of the United States Barack Obama
Antonio Villaraigosa
Maxine Waters - might skip since she's on the schedule for Wednesday
Chad Griffin
Sean Maloney
Dolores Huerta
Eric Garcetti
Tammy Duckworth
Nancy Pelosi
Barbara Mikulski
Democratic Women of the Senate
Joaquin Castro
Andrew Cuomo
Jennifer Lim
Fallen law enforcement
Khizr Khan
Ted Lieu
Xavier Becerra
The Clintons
Okay, looking at this list I think I'm going to be spending a little too much time in the hopium den...
more happy that that message was at the DNC than that it personally resonated.
I'll definitely add Barber, but I gotta listen to the California reps so as much as I dont really care for her oratory style I'm going to be sitting through it.
I'm not digging through his tweets to find out, but I seem to recall Trump praising Johnson recently in a bid to siphon some BernieBros.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Oh definitely, I'm watching PBS's full convention stream so I'm just fast fowarding through the speeches I dont really care about.
He wasnt on Politico's list of speakers, did he speak on Monday? I kinda cherry picked Monday's speeches.
EDIT: Tuesday? I watched Tuesdays...how the hell did I miss Cory? Gunna fix that after NARAL lady's speech.
Monday was a real strong day.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Not that it really matters, but it might be good news.
Pelosi was downright awful. And I'm just like how can you be in politics and not be at least an above average speaker?
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If I'm wrong about the New York Post being generally right-wing in its presentation, then somebody please correct me, because I can never keep these New York / Washington Post / Times things straight.
Right wing, Murdoch owned.
This shit has been cemented in the public consciousness since at least the Vietnam War. In many ways, I'd call that whole era the origin of alot of these ideas of what "left" and "right" values are in America too. There's been alot of attempts to fight back on this conception too at various times, at various levels for various parts of it, but it's never really seemed to work. I'd blame part of it on the sheer laziness of the media and the public and such in just sticking to the standard playbook and ignoring what's going on.
I think in alot of ways this is the first time the Democrats really could hit back hard at this issue because Trump has presented a sort of unique opportunity based on his reputation and ideas. He ceded the terrain on a ton of these core ideas and the Democrats have, smartly, surged in and taken it. They positioned themselves to be the ones defending America from Trump and his Russian buddies. At least for the moment anyway. We'll see how it all plays out. But they saw the opening and they made probably the best play you could hope for it.
Right wing media loves to bring up the $200,000 speaking fee thing because "oh look she's rich and out of touch".
The "transcripts" thing is based on an attack Bernie made repeatedly during the primaries about how she gave a speech to Goldman Sachs "and she won't release the transcript!" The right wing has picked it up and added it to the arsenal.
You'll notice the NY Post also used the most unflattering photo they could find for the story.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Remember the trump ghostwriter who's entire existence was debatable because people wondered if she was a fictitious fall person?
Her speaking fee was listed at $35,000.
Nah but he would if Johnson was going to be in the debate
I'd love for him to get in there because I think he'd at least peel off the remaining bernie bros that won't vote for hillary
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
Hakeem Jeffries kinda upstaged him though:
1) its a choice between the most qualified vs the least qualified
2) Secretary of State vs Secretary of Hate
3) Donald Trump is a bounced check, Hillary Clinton is money in the bank soo good
I was hoping to get through Wednesday tonight, but its 2am and I have work in the morning. Gunna watch Harry Reid and Gavin Newsom and call it a night... Wednesday's convention has been good though.
That entire speech was incredible, but that line will stay with me for a very long time. I loved how the audience teared up as they were cheering.
If the cover was coming from a place I'd expect a joke it'd be a really funny one but I have a hunch it's actually meant to be serious and so it's not as funny in that context.
My instant "OhThankGoodness!" response was quickly replaced by a surge of amusement that Obama could put anything in those briefings and Trump would believe it and repeat it at parties.
Hillary Clinton: ‘Young Girls Should Have An Equal Opportunity To One Day Feel Power Coursing Through Their Body’