Since we have 2 days of each day, might as well talk some strategy or something.
One-off votes in this game are going to be particularly detrimental for the village because we need a majority vote for the vote kill to kick in, and there's no reason at all that shouldn't happen every time. Anyone with the only vote on someone by the second day of voting should be encouraged to move their vote. This should be helpful at creating a larger vote record in general, and avoiding the possibility of having the vote NOT kill someone.
Maybe treat the first day of voting like nominating a vote target?
Seeing as there is no death reveals this time around. The analysis of the vote record will be very interesting indeed. I would assume that any late swings would be highly suspect.
And by encourage, I would expect that people who keep one off votes for a whole cycle are likely to be the target the next day? (I'm only kind of asking a question here).
Vote records are going to be about tracking when people moved around, and where they started. I think as a village we need to keep to wagons though. If we lose a vote kill because not enough people voted to make a majority, we're in a bad place since there also aren't going to be clear specials that we can rally behind right away (or ever depending on what roles are out there)
Seeing as there is no death reveals this time around. The analysis of the vote record will be very interesting indeed. I would assume that any late swings would be highly suspect.
Seeing as there is no death reveals this time around. The analysis of the vote record will be very interesting indeed. I would assume that any late swings would be highly suspect.
Neither role nor alignment of a player is publicly revealed on death, unlike in some similar games. When a player dies, they are completely out of the game, but they still win or lose with their team (staying alive is usually not required for a player to win).
I'm getting railroaded because I like using a d20 to pick my first-night votes.
I'm getting railroaded because I like using a d20 to pick my first-night votes.
Which I'd totally understand... but you didn't. You said "RNG says <x>". No one knows if you're telling the truth or not, right?
The complaint has always been if you literally link to a dice-roller, or worse do it in thread with Geth, then follow that vote.
For all we know you used a magic "RNG wink wink except don't actually land on my mafia buddies tee hee" d20.
Which is why I didn't use Geth this time, for the exact reason that everyone said that was the faux pas. So I guess next time I will just make a vote because of someone's punctuation error because that apparently has more weight and is more acceptable.
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Or you can vote for someone that voted you out last game.
Or, and this is what I suspect happens a lot, pick a vote at random, and then give a silly excuse for voting for them.
The issue isn't randomly voting, the issue is declaring random votes, when none of us have anything better to vote for. It makes you an easy target to focus on.
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I'm getting railroaded because I like using a d20 to pick my first-night votes.
Which I'd totally understand... but you didn't. You said "RNG says <x>". No one knows if you're telling the truth or not, right?
The complaint has always been if you literally link to a dice-roller, or worse do it in thread with Geth, then follow that vote.
For all we know you used a magic "RNG wink wink except don't actually land on my mafia buddies tee hee" d20.
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Or you can vote for someone that voted you out last game.
Or, and this is what I suspect happens a lot, pick a vote at random, and then give a silly excuse for voting for them.
The issue isn't randomly voting, the issue is declaring random votes, when none of us have anything better to vote for. It makes you an easy target to focus on.
I disagree. The issue isn't random votes, the issue is provably random votes. This is a bad day-one vote!
Yeah proving your RNG vote is frowned upon. Just saying you RNG'd is acceptable.
Acceptable or not I still don't particularly care for it. I'm much happier for MP to vote for me for being a jerk.
I think "claiming" to RNG still gives more info than when I repeatedly day 1 vote Megafrosty - but so far I haven't been sternly frowned at! (Maybe since he doesn't play every game)
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I really think the "Magic wagon" is an easy place for mafia to hide day 1.
So I'll go Kilnaga because jpants put out a reason, even if a reaaly weak one.
Are there any non-weak reasons to vote someone on day 1? I mean its all just guessing and grudges and rng unless a mafia wants to out themselves or if we got a pregame seer result.
Also, everyone needs to readjust their vote thinking a little.
If we're actually going to vote people out, there are going to be mainly wagons. There is always going to be a place to hide in a wagon. The key for analyzing this game is going to be when people jumped on the wagon, not who jumped on it.
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Yes, I wish I was that influential too.
Also you only said it was your birthday after you were dead.
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I don't have any grudges though, so that makes murder voting harder.
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MagicPrime seems to be the fashionable day one vote.
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Too hot.
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Its not like a bunch of people didn't explain how this would go last game.
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One-off votes in this game are going to be particularly detrimental for the village because we need a majority vote for the vote kill to kick in, and there's no reason at all that shouldn't happen every time. Anyone with the only vote on someone by the second day of voting should be encouraged to move their vote. This should be helpful at creating a larger vote record in general, and avoiding the possibility of having the vote NOT kill someone.
Maybe treat the first day of voting like nominating a vote target?
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Vote records are going to be about tracking when people moved around, and where they started. I think as a village we need to keep to wagons though. If we lose a vote kill because not enough people voted to make a majority, we're in a bad place since there also aren't going to be clear specials that we can rally behind right away (or ever depending on what roles are out there)
Villagers vote to execute, Mafia vote to murder. It's a real minor thing but better than nothing.
There are no death reveals?
Why are we all killing him again?
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It might not mean much, but it makes me feel better.
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I'm getting railroaded because I like using a d20 to pick my first-night votes.
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Which I'd totally understand... but you didn't. You said "RNG says <x>". No one knows if you're telling the truth or not, right?
The complaint has always been if you literally link to a dice-roller, or worse do it in thread with Geth, then follow that vote.
For all we know you used a magic "RNG wink wink except don't actually land on my mafia buddies tee hee" d20.
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Which is why I didn't use Geth this time, for the exact reason that everyone said that was the faux pas. So I guess next time I will just make a vote because of someone's punctuation error because that apparently has more weight and is more acceptable.
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Or, and this is what I suspect happens a lot, pick a vote at random, and then give a silly excuse for voting for them.
The issue isn't randomly voting, the issue is declaring random votes, when none of us have anything better to vote for. It makes you an easy target to focus on.
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I disagree. The issue isn't random votes, the issue is provably random votes. This is a bad day-one vote!
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That's how I understood things after last time as well.
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anyways, this plurality voting mechanic is interesting. I guess i'll park my vote on Grunts ghosts for being immortal last game.
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Grunts ghosts cause immortal GG was fun last game.
Acceptable or not I still don't particularly care for it. I'm much happier for MP to vote for me for being a jerk.
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Thats what I was working on, but I've been dyeing so fast its hard to just one of these assholes (ilu guys).
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I think "claiming" to RNG still gives more info than when I repeatedly day 1 vote Megafrosty - but so far I haven't been sternly frowned at! (Maybe since he doesn't play every game)
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So I'll go Kilnaga because jpants put out a reason, even if a reaaly weak one.
Are there any non-weak reasons to vote someone on day 1? I mean its all just guessing and grudges and rng unless a mafia wants to out themselves or if we got a pregame seer result.
If we're actually going to vote people out, there are going to be mainly wagons. There is always going to be a place to hide in a wagon. The key for analyzing this game is going to be when people jumped on the wagon, not who jumped on it.