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[tech] It's Tech Spring Cleaning Week now. Clean your....tech....stuff.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Well this is a surprise, I know Twitter was making cuts, but I would've thought Vine had a solid/useful userbase?


    but where will i get my TOP 10 VINE TWERKING VIDEOS 2016 ??

  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Well this is a surprise, I know Twitter was making cuts, but I would've thought Vine had a solid/useful userbase?


    but where will i get my TOP 10 VINE TWERKING VIDEOS 2016 ??

    From a cardboard box in the woods like we used to in the old days.

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  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    Also I'll keep it in mind about the ssd vs hybrid HD. I'll do some more research

    "Hybrid" HDDs are just regular platter HDDs with an extra cache built in, usually not very large. They work okay if the software you are using is constantly loading things into and out of RAM, but the data in the solid state part of the drive still has to get loaded in there off the platter part of the drive.

    Samsung SSDs are pretty much the best, but there are plenty of other companies making good fast reliable SSDs if you can't afford to spend big dollars. This would make a fantastic primary drive for all your programs and a bunch of games, and you just keep media and other cruft on a nice cheap platter drive. This is a cheaper option that is still a great drive for less than the Sammy.

    So would it make sense to have 2 hard drives

    1x 500GB SSD
    1x 500GB normal hard drive?

    And I split my data between the two?

    What's better to install on a SSD and what's better on a normal HDD?

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Your OS on the SSD, as well as games and applications if you have space.

    Media files on the HDD, movies, photos, etc. You can get a much larger HDD, 2-3TB is probably the sweetspot on megabytes per dollar.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    SSD is great for the OS and programs you use more often.

    platter drives is for stuff that doesn't change or you don't use frequently, like movies, or general documents (word, excel, photos)

    most games will benefit from SSD, with 500gigs you should be able to fit a dozen games or so

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Windows and your other programs (Office, Photoshop, that kind of thing) go on the SSD, personal documents, artwork, movies, music etc. goes on the platter drive.

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Would it be worth just getting a 1TB SSD instead of two separate drives?

    And how bad will my quality of life be if I get a normal HDD or a Hybrid?

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Hybrid is not worth the hassle, SSD is probably the single biggest QoL upgrade you can do to a modern PC.

    If you can float the cost of a 1TB SSD, go ahead.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    It's worth waiting a few weeks to shop for components if you can manage it, though. Hardware tends to get pretty cheap for black friday deals and the like. Last year SSD prices got down to nearly 25 cents per gig.

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    looking into it a 1TB SSD puts me over budget.

    However a 500GB SSD and a 1TB HD fits nicely with my current budget

    So I have two choices

    All in one 32" with
    I5 6600K
    32GB ram
    GTX 1060 6GB
    500GB SSD
    1TB HDD


    or

    Monitor 22" monitor

    Tower
    I5 6600K
    32GB ram
    GTX 1060 6GB
    500GB SSD
    1TB HDD

    Honestly the price different between the two is like a fiver (the all in one is cheaper) and with my frequency of moving it does seem like the better option.


  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    mobility vs expandibility

    If you need mobility it seems like a clear choice

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Pretty much

    I'll save the quote I've got (yeah I'm paying for company called PC specialist to build it for me, don't judge me) and have a good think. It's looking like £1623 and that's still a lot of money.

    But my idea is that I get this and I have a PC that runs shit hot for several years

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I don't particularly like all-in-ones.

    I like being able to (with some exceptions) just being able to take out and replace a piece if I deem it worth upgrading or it stops working

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    I plan on just re-upping my warranty so if there are any issues, someone will turn up to my house and fix it.

    I just want my things to work and if I can't figure it out myself, worst case I know I can call a support team who can fix it for me. I value peace of mind in my old age

    I have become the old man terrified of technology.

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    And in good news, I have a copy of the remastered version of Skyrim in my Library.

    Huzzah, buying that game in a sale paid off

  • CampyCampy Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Comparing like for like as you posted it does seem like a no brainer, the 32" vs 22" monitor being the only discernible difference.

    I would however like to know a bit more about the rest of the internals used. I see that you're getting a company to put it together for you and sometimes those sorts of places use... subpar parts for the bits they don't shout at you about. Do you have the specs on the RAM, motherboard and screen for both builds?

    Campy on
  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    I shall pull the specs during my lunch break.

    I'm fully aware there's a PC build thread in G&T so if anyone would prefer me to move this there, I'm happy to do it.

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Ok so here is the full spec of the all in one pc I'm thinking of getting:
    Chassis & Display
    Devcon Series: 32" Non-Touch Full HD Screen (1920 x 1080)
    Processor
    (CPU)Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache
    Motherboard
    ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
    Memory (RAM)
    32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
    1st Hard Disk
    500GB Samsung 750 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    2nd Hard Disk
    1TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
    Processor Cooling
    INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Wireless/Wired Networking
    WIRELESS-N (300Mbps) 3dBi HIGH GAIN USB ADAPTER
    USB Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD
    Office Software
    Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 License)
    Anti-Virus
    NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
    Browser
    Google Chrome™
    Webcam
    INTEGRATED 1.3 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
    Warranty
    3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
    Delivery
    STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days

    And the tower/monitor combo
    Case
    COOLERMASTER CM690 III WHITE CASE (Limited Edition!)
    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache
    Motherboard
    ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
    Memory (RAM)
    32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB)
    Graphics Card
    6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
    1st Hard Disk
    500GB Samsung 750 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
    2nd Hard Disk
    1TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
    1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450
    Processor Cooling
    Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
    Thermal Paste
    STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
    Wireless/Wired Networking
    WIRELESS 802.11 AC1300 867Mbps/5GHz, 400Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARDUSB OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
    Operating System
    Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
    Office Software
    Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 License)
    Anti-Virus
    NO ANTI-VIRUS
    SOFTWARE Browser
    Google Chrome™
    Monitor
    IIYAMA E2283HS-B1 22" Widescreen Monitor


    Thoughts and opinions please

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    I might tweak the All in one spec for better processor cooling (or is that a con)?

  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    What's the price difference cause those are some serious specs in both of them.

    In other news MIT Tech Review has a good writeup on the M$ and Apple conferences with this line in particular.

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  • KadithKadith Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Karl wrote: »
    I might tweak the All in one spec for better processor cooling (or is that a con)?

    Yeah that's the only thing I noticed, I think you'd definitely want some kind of "silent" cooler in the All In One, otherwise if you really don't have plans of fiddling around inside of it the AIO is clearly the better buy.

    edit: and unless you're doing photo/video editing your can probably get away with either 8-16 gigs of RAM. Depending on whether or not you still want overkill.

    Kadith on
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  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    The only option for cooling is processor cooling?
    For £19 extra I can add PCS frostflow 40 series high performance CPU cooler.

    So £1652 for the all in one



    The tower and monitor combo comes in at £1649 but for the sake of 3 quid I get a monitor 10" bigger if I go all in one.

    I was thinking 32gb of ram for future proofing

    I don't plan on buying a PC for a long time

  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Chrome keeps having these weird graphical bugs with videos and animated images.

    I'm now officially sick of google chrome.

    Help me with a new browser tech thread.

  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    I'd first try disabling extensions until you figure out which one is causing the issues. You can also check to see if all of the extensions are up to date. If none of that works, uninstall Chrome, reinstall, log into your Google account, and see if that works.

    There's always Firefox and Edge now supports some addons/extensions.

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  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    damn, yeah that fixed it I think.

    Everything is displaying good again.

    I still am not super satisfied with the speed it runs at and how memory intensive it is though.

  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Yeah once Edge gets some of the extensions I like to use I'll probably immigrate over there because chrome is super slow in comparison.

  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    I don't understand how Firefox and Chrome went from being the quicker more lightweight browsers to just as bad, if not worse then IE.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I'm running on a stock intel cooler and it is pretty damn quiet. I'm betting the PSU or Video card will be louder than the processor.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    furlion wrote: »
    I don't understand how Firefox and Chrome went from being the quicker more lightweight browsers to just as bad, if not worse then IE.

    IE / Edge has improved a lot

    still missing some basic stuff that makes developing for it a pain

    but speed/security wise it's pretty well caught up to FF/Chrome

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    There's a new chrome update in the works that cuts memory usage by like 75% I hear.

    bowen on
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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    I'd like to use chrome on my mac, but it just murders my battery life and it isn't worth while so I just use safari instead.

  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Opera for the win!

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Is there a reason to use Opera on my phone

  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    There's a new chrome update in the works that cuts memory usage by like 75% I hear.

    Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.

    Right now anytime I open the processes there's about a dozen or some chrome processes running and it's ridiculous how bad it is.

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    I'm a massive Google whore so I'm good with chrome. If I didn't use chrome, opera would be my 2nd choice

  • TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Actually it's still happening even with my extensions all uninstalled.

    Fuck. Oh well I'm going to try this one from an article I found called Vivaldi. It seems fast and the ui is really cool.

  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Vivaldi is built by the guys that made opera before it got sold to a Chinese company. It's got all the features that made opera great and seems to run pretty smoothly.

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    It's interesting cause I think Edge and Bing may actually work faster and return more quality results without ad blocking extensions than Chrome/Google does with the extensions.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    There's a new chrome update in the works that cuts memory usage by like 75% I hear.

    Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.

    Right now anytime I open the processes there's about a dozen or some chrome processes running and it's ridiculous how bad it is.

    It seems like Chrome is setup up so that in the same way as it runs a new process for each tab so that if one goes down they don't all go down, it also runs an individual process for each extension and then applies that extension across all tabs simultaneously to ensure the extensions are also crash proof, which is why you can have only one tab open but still have like 6 different Chrome processes running in Task Manager.

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Is there a reason to use Opera on my phone

    Opera has mobile ad blocking built in which is an absolute game changer with regards to mobile browsing. It does a shit job with some video sites but otherwise it's pretty great.

    I've switched the whole way over to Opera and I'm really happy with it, runs better than Chrome and it's got native ad blocking with no extensions or bullshit. It'll find a way to suck at some point because they all do but right now I'm happy.

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