Also I'll keep it in mind about the ssd vs hybrid HD. I'll do some more research
"Hybrid" HDDs are just regular platter HDDs with an extra cache built in, usually not very large. They work okay if the software you are using is constantly loading things into and out of RAM, but the data in the solid state part of the drive still has to get loaded in there off the platter part of the drive.
Samsung SSDs are pretty much the best, but there are plenty of other companies making good fast reliable SSDs if you can't afford to spend big dollars. This would make a fantastic primary drive for all your programs and a bunch of games, and you just keep media and other cruft on a nice cheap platter drive. This is a cheaper option that is still a great drive for less than the Sammy.
So would it make sense to have 2 hard drives
1x 500GB SSD
1x 500GB normal hard drive?
And I split my data between the two?
What's better to install on a SSD and what's better on a normal HDD?
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
Your OS on the SSD, as well as games and applications if you have space.
Media files on the HDD, movies, photos, etc. You can get a much larger HDD, 2-3TB is probably the sweetspot on megabytes per dollar.
SSD is great for the OS and programs you use more often.
platter drives is for stuff that doesn't change or you don't use frequently, like movies, or general documents (word, excel, photos)
most games will benefit from SSD, with 500gigs you should be able to fit a dozen games or so
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Windows and your other programs (Office, Photoshop, that kind of thing) go on the SSD, personal documents, artwork, movies, music etc. goes on the platter drive.
It's worth waiting a few weeks to shop for components if you can manage it, though. Hardware tends to get pretty cheap for black friday deals and the like. Last year SSD prices got down to nearly 25 cents per gig.
Honestly the price different between the two is like a fiver (the all in one is cheaper) and with my frequency of moving it does seem like the better option.
I'll save the quote I've got (yeah I'm paying for company called PC specialist to build it for me, don't judge me) and have a good think. It's looking like £1623 and that's still a lot of money.
But my idea is that I get this and I have a PC that runs shit hot for several years
I plan on just re-upping my warranty so if there are any issues, someone will turn up to my house and fix it.
I just want my things to work and if I can't figure it out myself, worst case I know I can call a support team who can fix it for me. I value peace of mind in my old age
I have become the old man terrified of technology.
Comparing like for like as you posted it does seem like a no brainer, the 32" vs 22" monitor being the only discernible difference.
I would however like to know a bit more about the rest of the internals used. I see that you're getting a company to put it together for you and sometimes those sorts of places use... subpar parts for the bits they don't shout at you about. Do you have the specs on the RAM, motherboard and screen for both builds?
Ok so here is the full spec of the all in one pc I'm thinking of getting:
Chassis & Display
Devcon Series: 32" Non-Touch Full HD Screen (1920 x 1080) Processor
(CPU)Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache Motherboard
ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs Memory (RAM)
32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB) Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready! 1st Hard Disk
500GB Samsung 750 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW) 2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm) Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS-N (300Mbps) 3dBi HIGH GAIN USB ADAPTER USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 License) Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE Browser
Google Chrome™ Webcam
INTEGRATED 1.3 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour) Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI) Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
And the tower/monitor combo
Case
COOLERMASTER CM690 III WHITE CASE (Limited Edition!) Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache Motherboard
ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs Memory (RAM)
32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB) Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready! 1st Hard Disk
500GB Samsung 750 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW) 2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm) 1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450 Processor Cooling
Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1300 867Mbps/5GHz, 400Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARDUSB OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 License) Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE Browser
Google Chrome™ Monitor
IIYAMA E2283HS-B1 22" Widescreen Monitor
I might tweak the All in one spec for better processor cooling (or is that a con)?
Yeah that's the only thing I noticed, I think you'd definitely want some kind of "silent" cooler in the All In One, otherwise if you really don't have plans of fiddling around inside of it the AIO is clearly the better buy.
edit: and unless you're doing photo/video editing your can probably get away with either 8-16 gigs of RAM. Depending on whether or not you still want overkill.
I'd first try disabling extensions until you figure out which one is causing the issues. You can also check to see if all of the extensions are up to date. If none of that works, uninstall Chrome, reinstall, log into your Google account, and see if that works.
There's always Firefox and Edge now supports some addons/extensions.
Vivaldi is built by the guys that made opera before it got sold to a Chinese company. It's got all the features that made opera great and seems to run pretty smoothly.
Once you go mouse gesture you'll never go back
The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin
It's interesting cause I think Edge and Bing may actually work faster and return more quality results without ad blocking extensions than Chrome/Google does with the extensions.
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
There's a new chrome update in the works that cuts memory usage by like 75% I hear.
Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.
Right now anytime I open the processes there's about a dozen or some chrome processes running and it's ridiculous how bad it is.
It seems like Chrome is setup up so that in the same way as it runs a new process for each tab so that if one goes down they don't all go down, it also runs an individual process for each extension and then applies that extension across all tabs simultaneously to ensure the extensions are also crash proof, which is why you can have only one tab open but still have like 6 different Chrome processes running in Task Manager.
Opera has mobile ad blocking built in which is an absolute game changer with regards to mobile browsing. It does a shit job with some video sites but otherwise it's pretty great.
I've switched the whole way over to Opera and I'm really happy with it, runs better than Chrome and it's got native ad blocking with no extensions or bullshit. It'll find a way to suck at some point because they all do but right now I'm happy.
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So would it make sense to have 2 hard drives
1x 500GB SSD
1x 500GB normal hard drive?
And I split my data between the two?
What's better to install on a SSD and what's better on a normal HDD?
Media files on the HDD, movies, photos, etc. You can get a much larger HDD, 2-3TB is probably the sweetspot on megabytes per dollar.
platter drives is for stuff that doesn't change or you don't use frequently, like movies, or general documents (word, excel, photos)
most games will benefit from SSD, with 500gigs you should be able to fit a dozen games or so
And how bad will my quality of life be if I get a normal HDD or a Hybrid?
If you can float the cost of a 1TB SSD, go ahead.
However a 500GB SSD and a 1TB HD fits nicely with my current budget
So I have two choices
All in one 32" with
I5 6600K
32GB ram
GTX 1060 6GB
500GB SSD
1TB HDD
or
Monitor 22" monitor
Tower
I5 6600K
32GB ram
GTX 1060 6GB
500GB SSD
1TB HDD
Honestly the price different between the two is like a fiver (the all in one is cheaper) and with my frequency of moving it does seem like the better option.
If you need mobility it seems like a clear choice
I'll save the quote I've got (yeah I'm paying for company called PC specialist to build it for me, don't judge me) and have a good think. It's looking like £1623 and that's still a lot of money.
But my idea is that I get this and I have a PC that runs shit hot for several years
I like being able to (with some exceptions) just being able to take out and replace a piece if I deem it worth upgrading or it stops working
I just want my things to work and if I can't figure it out myself, worst case I know I can call a support team who can fix it for me. I value peace of mind in my old age
I have become the old man terrified of technology.
Huzzah, buying that game in a sale paid off
I would however like to know a bit more about the rest of the internals used. I see that you're getting a company to put it together for you and sometimes those sorts of places use... subpar parts for the bits they don't shout at you about. Do you have the specs on the RAM, motherboard and screen for both builds?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pablocampy
I'm fully aware there's a PC build thread in G&T so if anyone would prefer me to move this there, I'm happy to do it.
Devcon Series: 32" Non-Touch Full HD Screen (1920 x 1080)
Processor
(CPU)Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
500GB Samsung 750 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Sound Card
ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS-N (300Mbps) 3dBi HIGH GAIN USB ADAPTER
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 License)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1.3 MEGAPIXEL WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
And the tower/monitor combo
COOLERMASTER CM690 III WHITE CASE (Limited Edition!)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-6600 (3.3GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® Z170-P: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM)
32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060 - DVI, HDMI, 3 x DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
500GB Samsung 750 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (upto 540MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD BLACK 3.5" WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES™ VS-450
Processor Cooling
Super Quiet Titan DragonFly Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11 AC1300 867Mbps/5GHz, 400Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARDUSB OptionsMIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 License)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS
SOFTWARE Browser
Google Chrome™
Monitor
IIYAMA E2283HS-B1 22" Widescreen Monitor
Thoughts and opinions please
In other news MIT Tech Review has a good writeup on the M$ and Apple conferences with this line in particular.
Yeah that's the only thing I noticed, I think you'd definitely want some kind of "silent" cooler in the All In One, otherwise if you really don't have plans of fiddling around inside of it the AIO is clearly the better buy.
edit: and unless you're doing photo/video editing your can probably get away with either 8-16 gigs of RAM. Depending on whether or not you still want overkill.
For £19 extra I can add PCS frostflow 40 series high performance CPU cooler.
So £1652 for the all in one
The tower and monitor combo comes in at £1649 but for the sake of 3 quid I get a monitor 10" bigger if I go all in one.
I was thinking 32gb of ram for future proofing
I don't plan on buying a PC for a long time
I'm now officially sick of google chrome.
Help me with a new browser tech thread.
There's always Firefox and Edge now supports some addons/extensions.
Everything is displaying good again.
I still am not super satisfied with the speed it runs at and how memory intensive it is though.
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IE / Edge has improved a lot
still missing some basic stuff that makes developing for it a pain
but speed/security wise it's pretty well caught up to FF/Chrome
Satans..... hints.....
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Yeah I'll believe it when I see it.
Right now anytime I open the processes there's about a dozen or some chrome processes running and it's ridiculous how bad it is.
Fuck. Oh well I'm going to try this one from an article I found called Vivaldi. It seems fast and the ui is really cool.
Once you go mouse gesture you'll never go back
It seems like Chrome is setup up so that in the same way as it runs a new process for each tab so that if one goes down they don't all go down, it also runs an individual process for each extension and then applies that extension across all tabs simultaneously to ensure the extensions are also crash proof, which is why you can have only one tab open but still have like 6 different Chrome processes running in Task Manager.
Opera has mobile ad blocking built in which is an absolute game changer with regards to mobile browsing. It does a shit job with some video sites but otherwise it's pretty great.
I've switched the whole way over to Opera and I'm really happy with it, runs better than Chrome and it's got native ad blocking with no extensions or bullshit. It'll find a way to suck at some point because they all do but right now I'm happy.