Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Eventually politicians will stop campaigning on bringing manufacturing jobs back because that ship has long sailed and they will pivot to basic income.
Yes, before anyone says it, this is assuming Trump hasn't destroyed democracy by then
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
For some reason that 1950's vision of "robots do all the work and we'll have time to play all day" stopped being something to aspire to.
It kinda seems like a huge portion of humanity finds not working and living on provided income depressing and starts in on meth?
I'd love to live in Star Trek too but it seems to be psychologically incompatible with a lot of people
No man they'll play video games.
You think I'm joking.
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I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
ba-sic in-come
clap clap clap-clap-clap
"Hey remember all those people we put out of jobs? Let's just give them money for no reas...ha, sorry, couldn't finish that with a straight face."
if they have no jobs and no money they have nothing to lose so
yeah, the peter thiels of this world are kind of under the impression that a lot of people are just going to quietly starve to death in the corner
nobody said the people driving this have a good grasp of human psychology
because honestly they really don't
I keep hoping I live long enough to watch our rich dying horribly for their short sighted people fucking, but I doubt that will ever happen.
In order to get to "popular uprising" we need "extreme popular oppression, death and famine"
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Because someone has to buy the things that the robots are making?
But no one will need to buy anything. Once you reach that level of automation, it exists only to support the leisure class. Not only do they no longer have to work, they no longer have to pay someone to work to provide them with the luxury they're accustomed to.
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I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
For some reason that 1950's vision of "robots do all the work and we'll have time to play all day" stopped being something to aspire to.
It kinda seems like a huge portion of humanity finds not working and living on provided income depressing and starts in on meth?
I'd love to live in Star Trek too but it seems to be psychologically incompatible with a lot of people
No man they'll play video games.
You think I'm joking.
a WoW sub is only like $15 a month and has plenty of menial work in it!
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Because someone has to buy the things that the robots are making?
But no one will need to buy anything. Once you reach that level of automation, it exists only to support the leisure class. Not only do they no longer have to work, they no longer have to pay someone to work to provide them with the luxury they're accustomed to.
You're assuming that everyone is just totally cool with other people just starving in the streets.
Many are. Everyone is not.
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man, [chat] is a bunch of debbie downers today.
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
For some reason that 1950's vision of "robots do all the work and we'll have time to play all day" stopped being something to aspire to.
It kinda seems like a huge portion of humanity finds not working and living on provided income depressing and starts in on meth?
I'd love to live in Star Trek too but it seems to be psychologically incompatible with a lot of people
I think that's more a matter of what is provided though. I don't think if you gave someone 70K a year and told them not to work that they'd start in on the meth. I think a lot of that psychology comes from the fact that provided income is always gross poverty level. And of course poverty isn't going to be preferred. It's not like you see folks living in trailers and huffing paint fumes after hitting the lotto.
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Eventually politicians will stop campaigning on bringing manufacturing jobs back because that ship has long sailed and they will pivot to basic income.
Yes, before anyone says it, this is assuming Trump hasn't destroyed democracy by then
That basic income has to come from somewhere though. And if the only people with any money are the ones who created the complete lack of employment in the first place, specifically so they could have even more money...
I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
ba-sic in-come
clap clap clap-clap-clap
"Hey remember all those people we put out of jobs? Let's just give them money for no reas...ha, sorry, couldn't finish that with a straight face."
if they have no jobs and no money they have nothing to lose so
yeah, the peter thiels of this world are kind of under the impression that a lot of people are just going to quietly starve to death in the corner
nobody said the people driving this have a good grasp of human psychology
because honestly they really don't
I keep hoping I live long enough to watch our rich dying horribly for their short sighted people fucking, but I doubt that will ever happen.
In order to get to "popular uprising" we need "extreme popular oppression, death and famine"
I would not make it through those conditions
Well I'm fat, so I can deal with famine.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
ba-sic in-come
clap clap clap-clap-clap
"Hey remember all those people we put out of jobs? Let's just give them money for no reas...ha, sorry, couldn't finish that with a straight face."
if they have no jobs and no money they have nothing to lose so
yeah, the peter thiels of this world are kind of under the impression that a lot of people are just going to quietly starve to death in the corner
nobody said the people driving this have a good grasp of human psychology
because honestly they really don't
I keep hoping I live long enough to watch our rich dying horribly for their short sighted people fucking, but I doubt that will ever happen.
In order to get to "popular uprising" we need "extreme popular oppression, death and famine"
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Because someone has to buy the things that the robots are making?
But Preacher
what is the robots specialize
and need the other robots' goods and services to make up shortfalls in their performance needs while they efficiently perform their priority function
brb writing story where humans are neutered and spayed and kept as pets
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Because it's the right thing to do.
Winky, I admire your optimism, but optimism will never feed a family of four.
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Because someone has to buy the things that the robots are making?
But Preacher
what is the robots specialize
and need the other robots' goods and services to make up shortfalls in their performance needs while they efficiently perform their priority function
brb writing story where humans are neutered and spayed and kept as pets
Way to rip off the Tripod trilogy
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Sir Landsharkresting shark faceRegistered Userregular
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Eventually politicians will stop campaigning on bringing manufacturing jobs back because that ship has long sailed and they will pivot to basic income.
Yes, before anyone says it, this is assuming Trump hasn't destroyed democracy by then
That basic income has to come from somewhere though. And if the only people with any money are the ones who created the complete lack of employment in the first place, specifically so they could have even more money...
Yes it comes from the government.
Please consider the environment before printing this post.
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Because it's the right thing to do.
Winky, I admire your optimism, but optimism will never feed a family of four.
I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
ba-sic in-come
clap clap clap-clap-clap
"Hey remember all those people we put out of jobs? Let's just give them money for no reas...ha, sorry, couldn't finish that with a straight face."
if they have no jobs and no money they have nothing to lose so
yeah, the peter thiels of this world are kind of under the impression that a lot of people are just going to quietly starve to death in the corner
nobody said the people driving this have a good grasp of human psychology
because honestly they really don't
I keep hoping I live long enough to watch our rich dying horribly for their short sighted people fucking, but I doubt that will ever happen.
In order to get to "popular uprising" we need "extreme popular oppression, death and famine"
I would not make it through those conditions
Well I'm fat, so I can deal with famine.
I AINT GONNA MAKE IT PREACH
You have a better chance of surviving a barter economy than I do, I mean I can't barter myself.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
like, the long-term psychological consequences of people feeling useless are immense
basic income isn't going to be enough if there aren't massive support structures that give people something to do that makes them feel useful
the Start Trek "play all day" idea is a pipe dream mostly bought into by engineers and other people without much actual experience with long-term unemployment
the whole point of the industrial revolution and the robotic revolution is so that humans don't have to do as much work as we did previously and can do other things we find worthwhile as a species
art, music, science, etc
just do things we enjoy, even if things we enjoy are eating like 18 slices of pizza and drinking a soda
but that was the whole point of our societal goals I thought
I guess that makes people uncomfortable
how dare these people not work as hard as I do
but I've found that people who say that, often don't work at all, or, are stupidly wealthy and the type of work they do could hardly be classified as "hard work"
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
For some reason that 1950's vision of "robots do all the work and we'll have time to play all day" stopped being something to aspire to.
It kinda seems like a huge portion of humanity finds not working and living on provided income depressing and starts in on meth?
I'd love to live in Star Trek too but it seems to be psychologically incompatible with a lot of people
No man they'll play video games.
You think I'm joking.
How's that VR porn coming along
It only has to be good enough to distract people already moderately intoxicated on government stipend wine coolers and oxy
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I dunno
Maybe I am SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE but I feel antsy whenever I just play video games all day, and actively pick up hobbies to keep myself from going insane (music, programming/neural nets, etc), on top of even a ridiculously demanding intellectual job.
Just like, fucking and playing video games starts to get antsy to me in like a day and a half.
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I think the only real question now is whether people get comfortable with expansive socialism or every automation engineer and software developer ends up ripped limb from limb French Revolution style
like honestly the scariest shit going right now is that the people building this shit are soooo disconnected from how incredibly fucking un-ready the bulk of society is for them and how likely it is to end in insanity
Google is essentially an insular singularity cult working to bring about the end of mankind, and they're puzzled that anyone's uncomfortable about it
storm's a-brewing
Yeah but what are we supposed to do? Illegalize automation? Leave a whole bunch of artificial makework so people get to pull a lever and feel useful? And our bizarre sense of morality says: Ok that man pulled a lever, he did A WORK he may now draw a wage?
You're not wrong, but aren't we just a man walking into a buzzsaw and asking "what? I'm supposed to not walk into it? some other mook will!"
Would it be nice if half the planet would get over themselves, embrace Full Communism Now, and let this all go smoothly? Sure man, but let's be real: they'd rather behead each other and go back to the 16th century. We're kidding ourselves if we think anything else is going to happen.
Sometimes think we need to put our swords down and go into the west.
Collective action. It isn't a buzz saw, it's technology. Whoever embraces it makes more money at the expense of those who didn't. It needs to be legislated but there's no will or way, nor is it even a realistic goal to get every nation on board. It is about as inevitable as anything. It's basically as intractable a problem as global warming, and look at how great we've dealt with that.
Unlike global warming, though, we can totally live just fine on a planet where automation has taken over as long as we change the way we think.
Thousands of hot, local singles are waiting to play at bubbulon.com.
I'm stealing a sailboat with a water filter. That should be able to last me a while.
You haven't watched Fear The Walking Dead.
That plan will fail.
Why does it fail on the show? Is it because they don't know how to live on a boat? Because I know how to do that.
Because you can't just live off fish. You'll need other nutrients. You might be able to stick with bull kelp and seaweed but your sodium intake is going to skyrocket.
Which means if you want something besides fish and desalinated water you're going to have to make port somewhere, which is a risk.
Also radar and sonar isn't going to stop working, so anyone else with a boat is going to be able to find you. If it's just you, you're not going to be able to keep a solid watch.
You're in a confined space with limited firepower in the middle of the ocean.
Then, you have tropical storms, which aside from your instruments (which are hopefully solar powered) you won't be able to predict all that well.
You need a relatively minimal amount of food other than fish, much of which can be preserved. Raid a grocery store and pick up a large number of things on your way to stealing the boat. You really only need to worry about the first 6 months or so, after that the population would be drastically reduced, then you can dock somewhere remote and resupply
Gas will run out fairly quickly - the refineries have been exploded so you only have what's locally available, and it will only keep a couple months at most, so there won't be many boats on the ocean after a little while. Sailboats require more specialized skills and are fewer in number
like, the long-term psychological consequences of people feeling useless are immense
basic income isn't going to be enough if there aren't massive support structures that give people something to do that makes them feel useful
the Start Trek "play all day" idea is a pipe dream mostly bought into by engineers and other people without much actual experience with long-term unemployment
Ok so basic income and a WoW subscription. Bam problem solved.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
It kinda seems like a huge portion of humanity finds not working and living on provided income depressing and starts in on meth?
I'd love to live in Star Trek too but it seems to be psychologically incompatible with a lot of people
I struggle with this
I worked from home on monday and tuesday because I had an excuse to do so
and I felt shitty about myself for playing video games all day
and yet I would make up the thing and work from home again given the chance
this self-harming behavior q_q
i wonder how much of it is those people being constantly told they're pieces of shit who don't deserve happiness because they don't work full time
There's a lot of that. The population has largely internalized those feelings, at this point, so it doesn't even matter if Basic Income has the most positive uncontroversial messaging in history. People could still end up hating themselves for it and going into self-destructive spirals
Really though. Everything gets automated, putting already underpaid people completely out of work. Why, exactly, would anyone in any position of authority then decide to give those people who they already weren't paying enough in the first place completely free money?
Eventually politicians will stop campaigning on bringing manufacturing jobs back because that ship has long sailed and they will pivot to basic income.
Yes, before anyone says it, this is assuming Trump hasn't destroyed democracy by then
That basic income has to come from somewhere though. And if the only people with any money are the ones who created the complete lack of employment in the first place, specifically so they could have even more money...
Yes it comes from the government.
Where's the government getting that money from. No one is paying taxes, since no one has a job. Corporate tax? pfft.
like, the long-term psychological consequences of people feeling useless are immense
basic income isn't going to be enough if there aren't massive support structures that give people something to do that makes them feel useful
the Start Trek "play all day" idea is a pipe dream mostly bought into by engineers and other people without much actual experience with long-term unemployment
The show gives us almost nothing abou civilian life, we can't draw any real conclusions about Federation society.
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CEO was a B.Com.
It was all finance shitbirds
Eventually politicians will stop campaigning on bringing manufacturing jobs back because that ship has long sailed and they will pivot to basic income.
Yes, before anyone says it, this is assuming Trump hasn't destroyed democracy by then
I struggle with this
I worked from home on monday and tuesday because I had an excuse to do so
and I felt shitty about myself for playing video games all day
and yet I would make up the thing and work from home again given the chance
this self-harming behavior q_q
they're on my christmas list!
I'd love it if you took a look at my art and my PATREON!
No man they'll play video games.
You think I'm joking.
In order to get to "popular uprising" we need "extreme popular oppression, death and famine"
I would not make it through those conditions
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But no one will need to buy anything. Once you reach that level of automation, it exists only to support the leisure class. Not only do they no longer have to work, they no longer have to pay someone to work to provide them with the luxury they're accustomed to.
i wonder how much of it is those people being constantly told they're pieces of shit who don't deserve happiness because they don't work full time
a WoW sub is only like $15 a month and has plenty of menial work in it!
just replace it with a robot
You're assuming that everyone is just totally cool with other people just starving in the streets.
Many are. Everyone is not.
I think that's more a matter of what is provided though. I don't think if you gave someone 70K a year and told them not to work that they'd start in on the meth. I think a lot of that psychology comes from the fact that provided income is always gross poverty level. And of course poverty isn't going to be preferred. It's not like you see folks living in trailers and huffing paint fumes after hitting the lotto.
That basic income has to come from somewhere though. And if the only people with any money are the ones who created the complete lack of employment in the first place, specifically so they could have even more money...
Well I'm fat, so I can deal with famine.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Suffering must be shared equally by all, it is how we know we are equal members of the human race, struggling to make our marks before we perish
But the joys of life can only be indulged by a very select few
~awesome~
NNID: Hakkekage
I AINT GONNA MAKE IT PREACH
NNID: Hakkekage
Domino's changed it to Sally Soulsmasher. I approve.
brb writing story where humans are neutered and spayed and kept as pets
Every once in awhile humans do the right thing.
Every once in awhile...
Winky, I admire your optimism, but optimism will never feed a family of four.
Yes it comes from the government.
No, but a robot will.
You have a better chance of surviving a barter economy than I do, I mean I can't barter myself.
pleasepaypreacher.net
basic income isn't going to be enough if there aren't massive support structures that give people something to do that makes them feel useful
the Start Trek "play all day" idea is a pipe dream mostly bought into by engineers and other people without much actual experience with long-term unemployment
Except we are talking abolishing wage system, robot apocalypse, and business jargon. Not quite down to the level of a pizza dream destroyer.
art, music, science, etc
just do things we enjoy, even if things we enjoy are eating like 18 slices of pizza and drinking a soda
but that was the whole point of our societal goals I thought
I guess that makes people uncomfortable
how dare these people not work as hard as I do
but I've found that people who say that, often don't work at all, or, are stupidly wealthy and the type of work they do could hardly be classified as "hard work"
How's that VR porn coming along
It only has to be good enough to distract people already moderately intoxicated on government stipend wine coolers and oxy
Maybe I am SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE but I feel antsy whenever I just play video games all day, and actively pick up hobbies to keep myself from going insane (music, programming/neural nets, etc), on top of even a ridiculously demanding intellectual job.
Just like, fucking and playing video games starts to get antsy to me in like a day and a half.
Collective action. It isn't a buzz saw, it's technology. Whoever embraces it makes more money at the expense of those who didn't. It needs to be legislated but there's no will or way, nor is it even a realistic goal to get every nation on board. It is about as inevitable as anything. It's basically as intractable a problem as global warming, and look at how great we've dealt with that.
Unlike global warming, though, we can totally live just fine on a planet where automation has taken over as long as we change the way we think.
You need a relatively minimal amount of food other than fish, much of which can be preserved. Raid a grocery store and pick up a large number of things on your way to stealing the boat. You really only need to worry about the first 6 months or so, after that the population would be drastically reduced, then you can dock somewhere remote and resupply
Gas will run out fairly quickly - the refineries have been exploded so you only have what's locally available, and it will only keep a couple months at most, so there won't be many boats on the ocean after a little while. Sailboats require more specialized skills and are fewer in number
Storms would be a problem though
Ok so basic income and a WoW subscription. Bam problem solved.
pleasepaypreacher.net
There's a lot of that. The population has largely internalized those feelings, at this point, so it doesn't even matter if Basic Income has the most positive uncontroversial messaging in history. People could still end up hating themselves for it and going into self-destructive spirals
Where's the government getting that money from. No one is paying taxes, since no one has a job. Corporate tax? pfft.