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A Billion Degrees of [Science]

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Stock up on canned tuna while it's cheap. Blue fin and albacore are going to get hit hard in the coming handful of years.

    Stock up on all canned food any water too maybe.

    Fuck that, Oregon Trail rules. Zero food, three thousand bullets.

    You have shot five thousand pounds of food. You can only carry 100 back to the wagon.

    Really since I have to walk home at times 5+ miles from the store I can understand why it was only 100 pounds as even with modern stuff carrying stuff sucks

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2017
    On the other hand: time crystals.

    Time. Crystals.

    I don't even know what half that article is talking about but something called time crystals are real and made by humans. Apparently they're kind of energyless (as in they have no energy output) perpetual motion machines?

    If we don't destroy the world we are gonna save the fucking universe someday.

    Shadowen on
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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    did science jump 1000 years all of a sudden

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    Mr_RoseMr_Rose 83 Blue Ridge Protects the Holy Registered User regular
    Yeah, these guys are talking about a phase of matter with functionally zero internal entropy. This is potentially a Big Deal, but I'm not gonna get too excited until they're self-sustaining, i.e. not living off the entropy of an excitation laser.
    Until then, though they're still accidentally parsing out the fundamental mathematics of life as a function of the universe so I'm gonna let it slide. Maybe they'll figure out why proteins are such a bitch to regular-crystallise?

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Yea spider designs are going to be better for almost all cases due to the stability. I could see bipedal or quadrupedal for applications requiring speed over rough terrain, especially since as a robot you could probably go from quadrupedal to a more splayed spider like shape.

    Bipedal works in humans because it frees up the hands for tool use, but in a robot you can still keep four legs on the ground and have a set of hands, or two, or however many you want and still work. I bet Centaur style designs will become popular for heavy industry exoskeletons. Four on the floor and still have a set of hands for manipulation.

    The biggest problem with Mechs is all this stuff supposes them as a weapons platform, and height is the biggest enemy of any land based weapons system. Look at tank design, all the cutting edge designs biggest efforts are to reduce the profile of the tank against anti armor munitions. I giant walking mech is a huge target for troop fired anti armor weapons.

    Give me a person sized exoskeleton though. double a persons strength and allow them to hold things without inducing muscle strain? A ton of building and manufacturing trades would be revolutionized. Being able to hold lumber or metal plating over head without getting tired? Being able to lock your exoskeleton in place and operate a second set of manipulators to fasten things together? Goddamn that would be amazing.

    Tanks can't dodge. Nor do they have particularly extensive countermeasures besides smoke grenades.

    As for verticality, mechs will be able to go prone.

    You been playing Infinity, mate?

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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    Stock up on canned tuna while it's cheap. Blue fin and albacore are going to get hit hard in the coming handful of years.

    Stock up on all canned food any water too maybe.

    Fuck that, Oregon Trail rules. Zero food, three thousand bullets.

    You have shot five thousand pounds of food. You can only carry 100 back to the wagon.

    Screw the wagon

    I'm making a tent out of the carcass and settling in Buffalo Hollow to live like a greasy carnivorous king

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
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    ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    Shadowen wrote: »
    On the other hand: time crystals.

    Time. Crystals.

    I don't even know what half that article is talking about but something called time crystals are real and made by humans. Apparently they're kind of energyless (as in they have no energy output) perpetual motion machines?

    If we don't destroy the world we are gonna save the fucking universe someday.
    If crystals have an atomic structure that repeats in space, like the carbon lattice of a diamond, why can’t crystals also have a structure that repeats in time? That is, a time crystal?

    For the rest of my life I will regret not being high as fuck when I read this.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular

    Butler wrote: »
    Shadowen wrote: »
    On the other hand: time crystals.

    Time. Crystals.

    I don't even know what half that article is talking about but something called time crystals are real and made by humans. Apparently they're kind of energyless (as in they have no energy output) perpetual motion machines?

    If we don't destroy the world we are gonna save the fucking universe someday.
    If crystals have an atomic structure that repeats in space, like the carbon lattice of a diamond, why can’t crystals also have a structure that repeats in time? That is, a time crystal?

    For the rest of my life I will regret not being high as fuck when I read this.

    Carl Sagan approves this post. Also, I'm guessing all other theoretical physicists, forever. I mean, the whole one-electron universe dialog just sounds like a couple of dangerously stoned grad students, you know?

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Yea spider designs are going to be better for almost all cases due to the stability. I could see bipedal or quadrupedal for applications requiring speed over rough terrain, especially since as a robot you could probably go from quadrupedal to a more splayed spider like shape.

    Bipedal works in humans because it frees up the hands for tool use, but in a robot you can still keep four legs on the ground and have a set of hands, or two, or however many you want and still work. I bet Centaur style designs will become popular for heavy industry exoskeletons. Four on the floor and still have a set of hands for manipulation.

    The biggest problem with Mechs is all this stuff supposes them as a weapons platform, and height is the biggest enemy of any land based weapons system. Look at tank design, all the cutting edge designs biggest efforts are to reduce the profile of the tank against anti armor munitions. I giant walking mech is a huge target for troop fired anti armor weapons.

    Give me a person sized exoskeleton though. double a persons strength and allow them to hold things without inducing muscle strain? A ton of building and manufacturing trades would be revolutionized. Being able to hold lumber or metal plating over head without getting tired? Being able to lock your exoskeleton in place and operate a second set of manipulators to fasten things together? Goddamn that would be amazing.

    Tanks can't dodge. Nor do they have particularly extensive countermeasures besides smoke grenades.

    As for verticality, mechs will be able to go prone.

    You been playing Infinity, mate?

    Nup. Is it good?

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Yeah it's great

    Best tabletop skirmish game I've ever played

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Yea spider designs are going to be better for almost all cases due to the stability. I could see bipedal or quadrupedal for applications requiring speed over rough terrain, especially since as a robot you could probably go from quadrupedal to a more splayed spider like shape.

    Bipedal works in humans because it frees up the hands for tool use, but in a robot you can still keep four legs on the ground and have a set of hands, or two, or however many you want and still work. I bet Centaur style designs will become popular for heavy industry exoskeletons. Four on the floor and still have a set of hands for manipulation.

    The biggest problem with Mechs is all this stuff supposes them as a weapons platform, and height is the biggest enemy of any land based weapons system. Look at tank design, all the cutting edge designs biggest efforts are to reduce the profile of the tank against anti armor munitions. I giant walking mech is a huge target for troop fired anti armor weapons.

    Give me a person sized exoskeleton though. double a persons strength and allow them to hold things without inducing muscle strain? A ton of building and manufacturing trades would be revolutionized. Being able to hold lumber or metal plating over head without getting tired? Being able to lock your exoskeleton in place and operate a second set of manipulators to fasten things together? Goddamn that would be amazing.

    Tanks can't dodge. Nor do they have particularly extensive countermeasures besides smoke grenades.

    As for verticality, mechs will be able to go prone.

    I've been thinking about this, for completely unrelated reasons, and I don't think that mech going prone will be either a good thing or a realistic thing.

    For starters there's the size problem. A person can go prone behind a low wall, or a tree, or a particularly small outcrop of rock. A small mech would still need something roughly the size of a house or a winnebego. Outside of a city, they would find it hard to find adequate cover.

    Then there's the muscular problem. If a person drops prone, they can still fire from prone and get up quickly. Current tech doesn't allow for anything like that for mechs. We don't have anything that allows something that large and that heavy to do anything quickly, much less lift it's own weight like that in order to get it from prone to standing. Now, smaller robots can do it, but they are not pushing the weight limits of materials tech right now, and they are not quick about it.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    At least half of this mech discussion is about anime, a third of it is about a table top miniatures war game and

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Wasn't the reason why Otacon built the mech in Metal Gear Solid his love for anime

    Seems realistic

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Listen, you people are missing the point. You know how the male peacock's feathers are huge and colorful and heavy? And they kind of make him more likely to get eaten by a predator? The only reason they have any kind of evolutionary advantage is because they're big and awesome and scream to female peacocks "Yo, ladies, I'm such a badass specimen of birdmanity that I thought the whole predator/prey dynamic was too easy, and decided to handicap myself. Let's touch cloacae."

    Mechs are going to be the same thing. They're going to be fielded by military forces who already have complete superiority over the battlefield, but need a more efficient way to strike terror into the hearts of enemies who don't have the technical sophistication to realize why that tiny triangle in the sky is such bad news. They're going to be a giant stomping billboard that says "You're conquered, but we don't have time to explain our orbital strike platform to every teenage asshole with a Kalashnikov." They're going to be a big dragging peacock's tail, grabbing everyone's attention and saying "Wouldn't it be easy to shoot an RPG at me? Why don't you try it and see what happens?"

    Efficient killing power hasn't been a military priority since World War II. The challenge these days is convincing the suicidally optimistic guerrillas to lay down arms and get in line.

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Efficient killing power hasn't been a military priority since World War II. The challenge these days is convincing the suicidally optimistic guerrillas to lay down arms and get in line.

    How about investing in education and development

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Efficient killing power hasn't been a military priority since World War II. The challenge these days is convincing the suicidally optimistic guerrillas to lay down arms and get in line.

    How about investing in education and development

    That's exponentially more effective, and I would rather our foreign policy pour billions of dollars into building schools instead of mechs.

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    I know it's not as much fun as tearing people into bloody bits while they scream

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Depends on the teacher, I guess. I had one who handed out gumballs in exchange for A's, and even let you twist the crank on the gumball machine. That was pretty fun.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Listen, you people are missing the point. You know how the male peacock's feathers are huge and colorful and heavy? And they kind of make him more likely to get eaten by a predator? The only reason they have any kind of evolutionary advantage is because they're big and awesome and scream to female peacocks "Yo, ladies, I'm such a badass specimen of birdmanity that I thought the whole predator/prey dynamic was too easy, and decided to handicap myself. Let's touch cloacae."

    Mechs are going to be the same thing. They're going to be fielded by military forces who already have complete superiority over the battlefield, but need a more efficient way to strike terror into the hearts of enemies who don't have the technical sophistication to realize why that tiny triangle in the sky is such bad news. They're going to be a giant stomping billboard that says "You're conquered, but we don't have time to explain our orbital strike platform to every teenage asshole with a Kalashnikov." They're going to be a big dragging peacock's tail, grabbing everyone's attention and saying "Wouldn't it be easy to shoot an RPG at me? Why don't you try it and see what happens?"

    Efficient killing power hasn't been a military priority since World War II. The challenge these days is convincing the suicidally optimistic guerrillas to lay down arms and get in line.

    It's not about being efficient, and invisible to the naked eye drones are already enough to strike terror in people anywhere they happen. It's that mechs are unrealistic in terms of military battlefield use. For contractors and in building it's useful, but not so much in terms of actually fighting and firing. Meanwhile we have aging basic military equipment like body armor and vehicles that need money to replace and update. The non-flashy stuff that allows the military to be effective is more important than unnecessary boondoggles like Mechs.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Listen, you people are missing the point. You know how the male peacock's feathers are huge and colorful and heavy? And they kind of make him more likely to get eaten by a predator? The only reason they have any kind of evolutionary advantage is because they're big and awesome and scream to female peacocks "Yo, ladies, I'm such a badass specimen of birdmanity that I thought the whole predator/prey dynamic was too easy, and decided to handicap myself. Let's touch cloacae."

    Mechs are going to be the same thing. They're going to be fielded by military forces who already have complete superiority over the battlefield, but need a more efficient way to strike terror into the hearts of enemies who don't have the technical sophistication to realize why that tiny triangle in the sky is such bad news. They're going to be a giant stomping billboard that says "You're conquered, but we don't have time to explain our orbital strike platform to every teenage asshole with a Kalashnikov." They're going to be a big dragging peacock's tail, grabbing everyone's attention and saying "Wouldn't it be easy to shoot an RPG at me? Why don't you try it and see what happens?"

    Efficient killing power hasn't been a military priority since World War II. The challenge these days is convincing the suicidally optimistic guerrillas to lay down arms and get in line.

    But will the mechs touch cloacae?

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    RandomEncounterRandomEncounter Registered User regular
    All the time and without us telling them to. Skynet is real and ready to get down.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    All the time and without us telling them to. Skynet is real and ready to get down.

    Hey, baby. They don't call them chicken walkers for nothing.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    warning file size large

    https://i.imgur.com/gzr56BN.gif

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    Xehalus on
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    that video is cool

    but also 20mb

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »
    warning file size large

    https://i.imgur.com/gzr56BN.gif

    7j15tXU.jpg

    That camera has a really good zoom lens.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    What the fuck

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Isn't it Ironic?

    God will judge the world again -- with fire!

    Someone call Alanis Morissette, we have some strong competition for worse use of irony.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Really I do find it sad and interesting a lot of home schooling text books are secular in nature but with the choices our government recently has in education I see a lot of children getting home schooled

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Really I do find it sad and interesting a lot of home schooling text books are secular in nature but with the choices our government recently has in education I see a lot of children getting home schooled

    Secular means not having a religious basis. I am not sure what you said is what you're trying to communicate.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I don't know as my info about home schooling is really limited
    I just remembered a lot of textbooks were religious even vaguely

    Just with the people being selected for Education sec and the dismal state of schooling anymore I can see the appeal of home schooling children just how if you want a standard non religious education the question

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    I went to Catholic school and we didn't get anti-science indoctrination like that. That stuff showing up in any legitimate educational setting makes me furious.

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I went to Catholic school and we didn't get anti-science indoctrination like that. That stuff showing up in any legitimate educational setting makes me furious.

    I went to a nondenominational Christian school up through sixth grade, and my sixth grade teacher said, and I quote, "The Earth is no older than, at the oldest, 10,000 years old. Dinosaurs are no problem. I have proof."

    When a young, inquisitive mind asked for said proof, they got sent to the office for being insubordinate.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I went to Catholic school and we didn't get anti-science indoctrination like that. That stuff showing up in any legitimate educational setting makes me furious.

    I went to a nondenominational Christian school up through sixth grade, and my sixth grade teacher said, and I quote, "The Earth is no older than, at the oldest, 10,000 years old. Dinosaurs are no problem. I have proof."

    When a young, inquisitive mind asked for said proof, they got sent to the office for being insubordinate.

    see?

    you were learning important life lessons about questioning those in power

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Yeah catholic school is basically 1 degree shy from public school in general. AFAIK, the only real difference is the focus on abstinence in sex ed, but they teach science and sex ed (excluding the abstinence) in practically the same way as most liberal public schools.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Catholic institutions, even in America, tend to have a pretty good track record when it comes to science. No young-earth creationism, no efforts to try and prove the Flood actually happened.

    The worst offenders tend to be the Protestant denominations that were founded in America, and specifically those founded or schismed during the last quarter of the nineteenth century. There were some deeply weird theological influences floating around for a few decades there, and the result is that the stricter your church is about booze and dancing, the more likely they are to be strict Young Earthers. Bonus points if they don't allow musical instruments in church.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Scientists testing out procedure to allow people completely paralyzed with ALS or Lou Gehrig's disease to answer yes/no questions.
    The patterns were consistent about 70 percent of the time. And the researchers moved on to open-ended questions, including “You have back pain,” “I love to live,” and “I rarely feel sad.”

    Of the four patients, all of whom had been completely locked in for years, three said they were happy and loved to live. The fourth, a 24-year-old woman who had rapid onset of the disease, was not asked because her parents feared she was in a delicate mental state, MIT Technology Review reports.

    One patient was asked if he would give his blessing for his daughter to marry her boyfriend. He repeatedly responded “no."

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/02/after-years-of-being-locked-in-patients-communicate-say-theyre-happy/

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Haha

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