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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Decomposey wrote: »
    EU-wise they were called replusors. It's why nothing has wheels and ships that are aerodynamically stupid can lift off.

    The mouse droids have wheels

    As does Artoo! And almost every Astromech droid!

    Sure, they have to have wheels so they can go outside of a ship and repair stuff on the hulls. If they tried to use repulsors they'd just float away. So, instead, electro-magnetic wheels so they can turn the magnetization on and off as needed.

    No idea about the mouse droids. Don't really know what they were supposed to do.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Decomposey wrote: »
    EU-wise they were called replusors. It's why nothing has wheels and ships that are aerodynamically stupid can lift off.

    The mouse droids have wheels

    As does Artoo! And almost every Astromech droid!

    Sure, they have to have wheels so they can go outside of a ship and repair stuff on the hulls. If they tried to use repulsors they'd just float away. So, instead, electro-magnetic wheels so they can turn the magnetization on and off as needed.

    No idea about the mouse droids. Don't really know what they were supposed to do.
    Allow mice to patrol the Death Star.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    That just raises further questions.

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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    Hahahaha yes David Collins agrees with me on the celebratory theme at the end of RotJ!

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    DimosarDimosar I am the Brain Genius Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    I was the "the wheel was invented really late in the Star Wars universe" guy a few threads ago, and now I'll say this:

    It's highly likely that the laws of physics do not exist in star wars, due to the sheer amount of situations where they should apply but do not. Like...sound in space, non-aerodynamic ships not heating in atmosphere, faster than light travel, laser swords, lasers that fly about as fast as an MLB baseball, that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope, atmosphere on teeny Little Prince-sized asteroids, etc.

    I'm willing to only believe the 'science' that's spoken aloud in the films, which is...Bohdi in R1 mentioning
    "suffocating in the vacuum of space"

    which confuses me because I guess in the SW universe, sound carries through a vacuum?? Anyways that's literally the only scientific fact someone says aloud in all the movies, I think

    It's almost like this universe is only as quantifiable as that can be narratively interesting*, and is really just a fantasy adventure story with a sci-fi aesthetic
    *
    All that being said there is a dark part of me that wants to know how fucking...powerful Boba Fett's thrusters are and how many launch bays Destroyers have and how lightsabers curve the plasma around and how many kilograms the death star was made of, etc

    but I try to repress that inner darkness

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    The sound is the magic of film, much like hearing a conversation between two characters when it's a long shot.

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Re: Bodhi in Rogue One
    I almost wonder if the difference with sound between real space and Star Wars space has less to do with space itself and more to do with the objects themselves

    Like, maybe lasers and thrusters and everything else are based on a material that breaks the laws of physics, at least when it comes to sound

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I don't think Star Destroyers are classic Dreadnoughts because they don't have entirely Big Gun Armaments, which is the Dreadnought thing.

    Assault Carriers, really.

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    And so we come to the end.
    The first arc I already knew the result of, having been spoiled for it a long time ago. But given what it's about, I still would have known from the start it wouldn't have a happy ending. We all saw episode 3, after all. That plus this being the final season gave this arc a particular degree of grimness. And so far season 6 has also been exceptionally darkly lit. I'm also surprised I didn't realize until the last episode of the arc that Tim Curry was playing Palpatine--but then when I looked it up, Curry only played him for 10 episodes, out of the 39 in which the character appeared. Odd detail I kind of loved: the cabbie playing music on his radio that's basically hip-hop, and the techno at the bar. It's nice to know for certain that the galaxy has more styles of music than "classical" and "jizz".

    I find it odd that either side (minus Sidious and Dooku, obviously) would have accepted the Banking Clan as being a neutral party, especially when Kenobi saw them at the Separatists' initial meeting. That said, it's always fun to see Palpatine's ridiculously cunning political maneuvering. The series is really really good at underscoring just how complete Sidious's control of events was. Also, why is it that the worst man in Padme's life is the one she decided to marry? I can't even blame Clovis for flirting with Padme, exactly, given that as far as he knows she's single, though he did go too far. I was hoping that Clone Wars would make the relationship between Anakin and Padme...more understandable, if not better, but if anything this arc, at least, made it worse.

    "There is a great disturbance in the Force." No shit, Mace. Binks with a girlfriend is fucked-up. The ritual scene put me very much in mind of Temple of Doom, so that's fucked-up. And by the end of the first episode the arc he does start to make sense to me, and if that's not a sign of the end times, don't know what is. It was interesting to see the final fate of the Mother of the Nightsisters, and I knew the presence of a relatively light episode was likely to offset the darkness of the previous episodes--and the ones to come. Overall this was probably the best of the Jar-Jar heavy episodes.

    Sifo Diyas getting mentioned at the start of the first arc after literally no mention over five seasons, I wasn't surprised to see it come up again. And again, how close the good guys come to the horrible truth, only to stop millimeters away. Can't even blame them from stopping where they did...and again, it was all Sidious's plan. But as the arc moves into Force-mysticism, it suddenly seems to be a throwback to season 1's relative simplicity and kid-friendliness. It's not just a lack of tension in knowing Yoda comes through it all right and learns what he needs to learn, it's that there's literally no tension or confusion in the various visions. We know they're visions. We know why they're seductive to Yoda, but the show never makes you feel it. And there's not even any of the double-bluffs you normally get in headtrip episodes of shows where not just the character thinks they're out, but the audience does. And if ever it was time to go all-out with the head-trippiness, it would be the series finale.

    Don't get me wrong, overall season 6 was still very good, despite being so short. But it started much stronger than it finished, and compared to other arcs of high quality in the show, the end was a bit of a disappointment. That said, the final shot being so brightly lit in a season full of dim lighting was a nice touch.

    Done now.

    ...welp, time to finally get back to Rebels. (No, I won't be recapping that.)

    Or maybe I'll watch the Clone Wars movie. (Nor that.)

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    SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    I'm sure that in one of the old EU Books (might have been the Rogue squadron books) it "explained" that all the space sounds - TIEs zooming by, lasers firing etc. - were simulated by the onboard computer in order to give the pilots more situational awareness. Always thought that was a good idea.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The sound is the magic of film, much like hearing a conversation between two characters when it's a long shot.

    Nah, the Star Wars Galaxy is just packed to the brim with Midichlorians and they scream all the time in space.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Dimosar wrote: »
    I was the "the wheel was invented really late in the Star Wars universe" guy a few threads ago, and now I'll say this:

    It's highly likely that the laws of physics do not exist in star wars, due to the sheer amount of situations where they should apply but do not. Like...sound in space, non-aerodynamic ships not heating in atmosphere, faster than light travel, laser swords, lasers that fly about as fast as an MLB baseball, that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope, atmosphere on teeny Little Prince-sized asteroids, etc.

    I'm willing to only believe the 'science' that's spoken aloud in the films, which is...Bohdi in R1 mentioning
    "suffocating in the vacuum of space"

    which confuses me because I guess in the SW universe, sound carries through a vacuum?? Anyways that's literally the only scientific fact someone says aloud in all the movies, I think

    It's almost like this universe is only as quantifiable as that can be narratively interesting*, and is really just a fantasy adventure story with a sci-fi aesthetic
    *
    All that being said there is a dark part of me that wants to know how fucking...powerful Boba Fett's thrusters are and how many launch bays Destroyers have and how lightsabers curve the plasma around and how many kilograms the death star was made of, etc

    but I try to repress that inner darkness

    They're fantasy movies (mostly) made in the late 70s - early 80s set in a universe designed by a terrible writer at the same time, looking for scientific accuracy in them is an exercise in futility. I can understand if that breaks the suspension of disbelief for you, but for many people it doesn't.

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The sound is the magic of film, much like hearing a conversation between two characters when it's a long shot.

    Nah, the Star Wars Galaxy is just packed to the brim with Midichlorians and they scream all the time in space.

    You know what I heard recently (attributed to Lucas no less)? Qui-Gon was wrong about midichlorians. His conflict with the council (or at least part of it) was because he held wacky ideas about the Force, such as quantifying it with midichlorian count.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The sound is the magic of film, much like hearing a conversation between two characters when it's a long shot.

    Nah, the Star Wars Galaxy is just packed to the brim with Midichlorians and they scream all the time in space.

    You know what I heard recently (attributed to Lucas no less)? Qui-Gon was wrong about midichlorians. His conflict with the council (or at least part of it) was because he held wacky ideas about the Force, such as quantifying it with midichlorian count.

    From Wikipedia:
    "It is said that certain creatures are born with a higher awareness of the Force than humans. Their brains are different; they have more midi-chlorians in their cells."
    ―George Lucas, establishing guidelines for the Expanded Universe in 1977

    Everything I have seen about Lucas and midichlorians is consistent. And dumb. And not at all contradicting what Qui-Gon did in Episode 1.

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    KlendyKlendy Goomy GoomyGoomyRegistered User regular
    I always bought into the idea that the plasma based engines and blasters create a "pulse" of gas in space, which would carry the sounds to the listener/observer.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I prefer my explanation.

    It uses midichlorians the way they should have been: In the Abyss and to make Pew Pew noises magical.

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Also, they're not lasers.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Some of them are.

    They are TurboLasers.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The sound is the magic of film, much like hearing a conversation between two characters when it's a long shot.

    Yes, but you can do a lot with silence. If you want to emphasize loneliness or isolation of space you leave out the sound. If you want space to feel full and also packed full of action, you add in sound.

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I saw a thing recently that suggested that midichlorians and the Jedi's reliance on them was evidence of the Jedi Order's decline

    Like, it used to be a more spiritual thing, but now they just do blood tests

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    I saw a thing recently that suggested that midichlorians and the Jedi's reliance on them was evidence of the Jedi Order's decline

    Like, it used to be a more spiritual thing, but now they just do blood tests

    That sounds more like they're drug addicts.

    "Yes, inject those midichlorians into my veins!"

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Honestly, I am surprised that more Jedi/Sith didn't try to mainline Midichlorians to get either a power-boost or a natural high.

    They are symbiotic organisms that somehow fucked Anakin's mom so you should be able to increase your blood-concentration of it by simply adding more. They are symbiotes, they will latch on.

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Honestly, I am surprised that more Jedi/Sith didn't try to mainline Midichlorians to get either a power-boost or a natural high.

    They are symbiotic organisms that somehow fucked Anakin's mom so you should be able to increase your blood-concentration of it by simply adding more. They are symbiotes, they will latch on.

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    Honestly, I am surprised that more Jedi/Sith didn't try to mainline Midichlorians to get either a power-boost or a natural high.

    They are symbiotic organisms that somehow fucked Anakin's mom so you should be able to increase your blood-concentration of it by simply adding more. They are symbiotes, they will latch on.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    I saw a thing recently that suggested that midichlorians and the Jedi's reliance on them was evidence of the Jedi Order's decline

    Like, it used to be a more spiritual thing, but now they just do blood tests

    That sounds more like they're drug addicts.

    "Yes, inject those midichlorians into my veins!"

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    DimosarDimosar I am the Brain Genius Registered User regular
    Dimosar wrote: »
    I was the "the wheel was invented really late in the Star Wars universe" guy a few threads ago, and now I'll say this:

    It's highly likely that the laws of physics do not exist in star wars, due to the sheer amount of situations where they should apply but do not. Like...sound in space, non-aerodynamic ships not heating in atmosphere, faster than light travel, laser swords, lasers that fly about as fast as an MLB baseball, that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope, atmosphere on teeny Little Prince-sized asteroids, etc.

    I'm willing to only believe the 'science' that's spoken aloud in the films, which is...Bohdi in R1 mentioning
    "suffocating in the vacuum of space"

    which confuses me because I guess in the SW universe, sound carries through a vacuum?? Anyways that's literally the only scientific fact someone says aloud in all the movies, I think

    It's almost like this universe is only as quantifiable as that can be narratively interesting*, and is really just a fantasy adventure story with a sci-fi aesthetic
    *
    All that being said there is a dark part of me that wants to know how fucking...powerful Boba Fett's thrusters are and how many launch bays Destroyers have and how lightsabers curve the plasma around and how many kilograms the death star was made of, etc

    but I try to repress that inner darkness

    They're fantasy movies (mostly) made in the late 70s - early 80s set in a universe designed by a terrible writer at the same time, looking for scientific accuracy in them is an exercise in futility. I can understand if that breaks the suspension of disbelief for you, but for many people it doesn't.

    Despite some (probably) poor wording on my part, that's actually the whole point of my post! That they're fantasy movies, and that quantifying them is impossible, that things just happen in star wars if they need to happen. So to actually approach everything in the movies as if there is some underlying coherent reality results in some bizarre 'rules', like the atmosphere just not being a problem, ever. Cause the story would be less cool that way, and this just isn't and should not be SCI-fi

    Like, why does the destroyer hover over Jedha? not cause it's some special model-9092-R with Zorbion engines that yada yada yada the quantum whatevers. It hovers over Jedha because that's an imposing, awesome visual that instantly communicates that locations relationship to the empire. If the destroyer had to be underwater for that visual to work, they'd suddenly be submersible.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    wait was he actually talking about midichlorians in fucking '77?

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Dimosar wrote: »
    I was the "the wheel was invented really late in the Star Wars universe" guy a few threads ago, and now I'll say this:

    It's highly likely that the laws of physics do not exist in star wars, due to the sheer amount of situations where they should apply but do not. Like...sound in space, non-aerodynamic ships not heating in atmosphere, faster than light travel, laser swords, lasers that fly about as fast as an MLB baseball, that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope, atmosphere on teeny Little Prince-sized asteroids, etc.

    I'm willing to only believe the 'science' that's spoken aloud in the films, which is...Bohdi in R1 mentioning
    "suffocating in the vacuum of space"

    which confuses me because I guess in the SW universe, sound carries through a vacuum?? Anyways that's literally the only scientific fact someone says aloud in all the movies, I think

    It's almost like this universe is only as quantifiable as that can be narratively interesting*, and is really just a fantasy adventure story with a sci-fi aesthetic
    *
    All that being said there is a dark part of me that wants to know how fucking...powerful Boba Fett's thrusters are and how many launch bays Destroyers have and how lightsabers curve the plasma around and how many kilograms the death star was made of, etc

    but I try to repress that inner darkness

    "that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope"

    What the fuck?

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    George Lucas is a dummy

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    LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Dimosar wrote: »
    I was the "the wheel was invented really late in the Star Wars universe" guy a few threads ago, and now I'll say this:

    It's highly likely that the laws of physics do not exist in star wars, due to the sheer amount of situations where they should apply but do not. Like...sound in space, non-aerodynamic ships not heating in atmosphere, faster than light travel, laser swords, lasers that fly about as fast as an MLB baseball, that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope, atmosphere on teeny Little Prince-sized asteroids, etc.

    I'm willing to only believe the 'science' that's spoken aloud in the films, which is...Bohdi in R1 mentioning
    "suffocating in the vacuum of space"

    which confuses me because I guess in the SW universe, sound carries through a vacuum?? Anyways that's literally the only scientific fact someone says aloud in all the movies, I think

    It's almost like this universe is only as quantifiable as that can be narratively interesting*, and is really just a fantasy adventure story with a sci-fi aesthetic
    *
    All that being said there is a dark part of me that wants to know how fucking...powerful Boba Fett's thrusters are and how many launch bays Destroyers have and how lightsabers curve the plasma around and how many kilograms the death star was made of, etc

    but I try to repress that inner darkness

    "that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope"

    What the fuck?

    He told her that the lack of gravity in space would mess up a bra so nobody in space wears them.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Dimosar wrote: »
    I was the "the wheel was invented really late in the Star Wars universe" guy a few threads ago, and now I'll say this:

    It's highly likely that the laws of physics do not exist in star wars, due to the sheer amount of situations where they should apply but do not. Like...sound in space, non-aerodynamic ships not heating in atmosphere, faster than light travel, laser swords, lasers that fly about as fast as an MLB baseball, that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope, atmosphere on teeny Little Prince-sized asteroids, etc.

    I'm willing to only believe the 'science' that's spoken aloud in the films, which is...Bohdi in R1 mentioning
    "suffocating in the vacuum of space"

    which confuses me because I guess in the SW universe, sound carries through a vacuum?? Anyways that's literally the only scientific fact someone says aloud in all the movies, I think

    It's almost like this universe is only as quantifiable as that can be narratively interesting*, and is really just a fantasy adventure story with a sci-fi aesthetic
    *
    All that being said there is a dark part of me that wants to know how fucking...powerful Boba Fett's thrusters are and how many launch bays Destroyers have and how lightsabers curve the plasma around and how many kilograms the death star was made of, etc

    but I try to repress that inner darkness

    "that boob gravity thing Lucas made up so Carrie wouldn't wear a bra in New Hope"

    What the fuck?

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »

    dude holding the iPhone is taking a terribly-not-secret secret selfie shot.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    And both Landos are clearly going, dude, just take the picture and be done with it.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    That is the photography equivalent of a stage whisper

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    DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    Eric Trautmann, former West End Games line editor, took my Rogue One artwork and turned it into an unofficial mini sourcebook for the D6 system.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Holy shit!

    That's amazing!

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    DMAC wrote: »
    Eric Trautmann, former West End Games line editor, took my Rogue One artwork and turned it into an unofficial mini sourcebook for the D6 system.

    They asked first right?

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