While it is technically correct that the terms White Nationalist, Neo-Nazi, Nazi, and Fascist are different things and do not mean identical things...
Please think very carefully if it is actually important to correct people about which one they are using to refer to a specific odious, harmful racist by.
Of course it's true that not all White Nationalists are Nazis, and not all Fascists are White Nationalists, but all of those people are dangerous, harmful, and have important unifying characteristics that people need to be aware of.
Quibbling over the specificity of these terms can be important! ...sometimes. Often, though, it really, really isn't. It can be important in a historical context, or in specifying exactly which group a hatemonger's loyalties lie with. But otherwise, in common conversation, these terms can be used fairly interchangeably and getting hung up on pedantry can only create a distracting side conversation of people talking past each other.
So just... decide how important it is for you to be technically correct.
I see bowen's point about not overusing it
but IMO Bannon is definitely one of those people
Think about the most racist relative you have and compare what they say in private or on facebook to what they say in public, at work
now look at what bannon has said with fucking cameras rolling, and imagine what he's like when they aren't
I couldn't build a court case, but I see the white supremacy smoke, I think there's some variation of nazi fire!
I'm comfortable calling Bannon a nazi.
I'm not comfortable calling Pewdiepie a nazi because wall street journal blog shit had a slow news day and cut out like 10 seconds of his video and presented it without context.
What about nazicuriospie? Like he's dipping a toe seeing how it feels, just the tip?
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
While it is technically correct that the terms White Nationalist, Neo-Nazi, Nazi, and Fascist are different things and do not mean identical things...
Please think very carefully if it is actually important to correct people about which one they are using to refer to a specific odious, harmful racist by.
Of course it's true that not all White Nationalists are Nazis, and not all Fascists are White Nationalists, but all of those people are dangerous, harmful, and have important unifying characteristics that people need to be aware of.
Quibbling over the specificity of these terms can be important! ...sometimes. Often, though, it really, really isn't. It can be important in a historical context, or in specifying exactly which group a hatemonger's loyalties lie with. But otherwise, in common conversation, these terms can be used fairly interchangeably and getting hung up on pedantry can only create a distracting side conversation of people talking past each other.
So just... decide how important it is for you to be technically correct.
I see bowen's point about not overusing it
but IMO Bannon is definitely one of those people
Think about the most racist relative you have and compare what they say in private or on facebook to what they say in public, at work
now look at what bannon has said with fucking cameras rolling, and imagine what he's like when they aren't
I couldn't build a court case, but I see the white supremacy smoke, I think there's some variation of nazi fire!
I'm comfortable calling Bannon a nazi.
I'm not comfortable calling Pewdiepie a nazi because wall street journal blog shit had a slow news day and cut out like 10 seconds of his video and presented it without context.
What about nazicuriospie? Like he's dipping a toe seeing how it feels, just the tip?
.. I'll allow it.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
While it is technically correct that the terms White Nationalist, Neo-Nazi, Nazi, and Fascist are different things and do not mean identical things...
Please think very carefully if it is actually important to correct people about which one they are using to refer to a specific odious, harmful racist by.
Of course it's true that not all White Nationalists are Nazis, and not all Fascists are White Nationalists, but all of those people are dangerous, harmful, and have important unifying characteristics that people need to be aware of.
Quibbling over the specificity of these terms can be important! ...sometimes. Often, though, it really, really isn't. It can be important in a historical context, or in specifying exactly which group a hatemonger's loyalties lie with. But otherwise, in common conversation, these terms can be used fairly interchangeably and getting hung up on pedantry can only create a distracting side conversation of people talking past each other.
So just... decide how important it is for you to be technically correct.
I see bowen's point about not overusing it
but IMO Bannon is definitely one of those people
Think about the most racist relative you have and compare what they say in private or on facebook to what they say in public, at work
now look at what bannon has said with fucking cameras rolling, and imagine what he's like when they aren't
I couldn't build a court case, but I see the white supremacy smoke, I think there's some variation of nazi fire!
I'm comfortable calling Bannon a nazi.
I'm not comfortable calling Pewdiepie a nazi because wall street journal blog shit had a slow news day and cut out like 10 seconds of his video and presented it without context.
Yeah, making holocaust jokes doesn't make him a nazi, even if they are harmful
A lot of the m4m, no homo, j/o bro, down-low type stuff isn't just rooted in homophobia.
It's also rooted in bisexual erasure and monosexism.
There's a very strong and prevailing cultural attitude that once you engage in same-sex sexual activity, or hell even just express the interest, YOU GAY NOW.
Even if you're still interested in the opposite gender, even if you don't want to buy into a "gay identity", there's a lot of societal pressure to do so. There's a sexual orientation binary and it's rigidly enforced by gay and straight people.
So there are people who engage in mental gymnastics and terminology games to avoid getting pigeon-holed as gay, because they're not just "in the closet"... they might not actually be homosexual.
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
honestly it's kind of a problem in the sea area where traffic is so bad in every direction to and from every destination
like even if you do buy a play a reasonable commute from your work
I hope they never move
or you never get a new job
because you're back in hour long commute town sucker
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
A lot of the m4m, no homo, j/o bro, down-low type stuff isn't just rooted in homophobia.
It's also rooted in bisexual erasure and monosexism.
There's a very strong and prevailing cultural attitude that once you engage in same-sex sexual activity, or hell even just express the interest, YOU GAY NOW.
Even if you're still interested in the opposite gender, even if you don't want to buy into a "gay identity", there's a lot of societal pressure to do so. There's a sexual orientation binary and it's rigidly enforced by gay and straight people.
So there are people who engage in mental gymnastics and terminology games to avoid getting pigeon-holed as gay, because they're not just "in the closet"... they might not actually be homosexual.
If you were a straight guy who wanted to dabble in the m4m stuff... wouldn't you want someone more feminine so it at least was more like what you were normally into? Small steps or whatever?
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
i realized the other day i actually do have "investments" in that i have a retirement savings plan with a fairly small amount in it. i'd say about a quarter of a down payment on a house. a small house. or a very small condo in a nice part of town.
i forget about it every year until tax season, which is actually kind of bad because contributing to an RRSP is one of the best ways to increase your tax refund
guys call the Hague I just found out I am harboring a war criminal
twist: the criminal is my own butt
i hereby serve notice that i formally disown and disavow it and its actions that are abhorrent to all decent people
do you have the butt pees
no just death farts
let me be clear: not "deadly" farts
death farts. farts that smell like a putrefying, slowly deliquescing corpse and linger in the air like a ghost or the memory of a nightmare
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JeanHeartbroken papa bearGatineau, QuébecRegistered Userregular
Our yearly budget currently is $35K (excluding income taxes, which bums it up to 42K) tough I have to admit it's pretty tight. Eating out is our one big luxury.
50K after income taxes would feel like luxury to us
"You won't destroy us, You won't destroy our democracy. We are a small but proud nation. No one can bomb us to silence. No one can scare us from being Norway. This evening and tonight, we'll take care of each other. That's what we do best when attacked'' - Jens Stoltenberg
Strike a balance. Asses when it's important. For example, I do think it's a reach to call Pewdiepie a Nazi for being a privileged white dipshit who does things for the lulz.
Whereas I think it's a hairsplit on whether Bannon is a Nazi or a White Nationalist
hey my work's kind of on the edge of the metropolitan area, what if cutting in closer to be centralized (and commuting out) I went way out into the foothills and bought in one of those sleepy exburb communities that used to be logging towns before we cut the forests down?
lolnooope, unsurprisingly those cities are not well run and they let developers build thousands of densely packed mcmansions without giving thought to infrastructue
the single four lane road into town become gridlocked every rush hour commute is just as long as if you were staying in civilization
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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Element BrianPeanut Butter ShillRegistered Userregular
i know were having important convos about who we can call nazis and if millions of dollars is enough to live off of but hey look i got a new haircut AND a new shirt
Strike a balance. Asses when it's important. For example, I do think it's a reach to call Pewdiepie a Nazi for being a privileged white dipshit who does things for the lulz.
Whereas I think it's a hairsplit on whether Bannon is a Nazi or a White Nationalist
I can agree on that.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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ChelleYeahMrs. LudiousLiving it up in Cinderella's CastleRegistered Userregular
better than nazi, really, because when you say that about someone who is clearly not keen on swastika tattoos, then you're kind of not getting across anything at all except "bad man, right-leaning"
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SurfpossumA nonentitytrying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered Userregular
I will keep rolling my eyes at using nazi as just a bad word and always trying to call people you disagree with whatever word sounds the worst
it's not necessary
a description of them will usually suffice when it comes to getting across how much of a piece of shit they are
I think very generically using 'nazi' decreases its potency and historical force.
Honestly, even calling Bannon a nazi is eh although he is fairly nazi-adjacent, I guess.
It is important to figure out what words we are using to describe these people.
Steam, LoL: credeiki
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OnTheLastCastlelet's keep it haimish for the peripateticRegistered Userregular
brian, who took away your fresh baby face and replaced it with this weeded out fiend
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Element BrianPeanut Butter ShillRegistered Userregular
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i know YOU do
YOU are a saint tho
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What about nazicuriospie? Like he's dipping a toe seeing how it feels, just the tip?
pleasepaypreacher.net
and angry directionless dudes of the kind who ended up in Vigrid and other Neo-nazi groups or were affiliated with same
probably overlaps a whole bunch
.. I'll allow it.
Yeah, making holocaust jokes doesn't make him a nazi, even if they are harmful
It's also rooted in bisexual erasure and monosexism.
There's a very strong and prevailing cultural attitude that once you engage in same-sex sexual activity, or hell even just express the interest, YOU GAY NOW.
Even if you're still interested in the opposite gender, even if you don't want to buy into a "gay identity", there's a lot of societal pressure to do so. There's a sexual orientation binary and it's rigidly enforced by gay and straight people.
So there are people who engage in mental gymnastics and terminology games to avoid getting pigeon-holed as gay, because they're not just "in the closet"... they might not actually be homosexual.
who is harvey dent
like even if you do buy a play a reasonable commute from your work
I hope they never move
or you never get a new job
because you're back in hour long commute town sucker
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
If you were a straight guy who wanted to dabble in the m4m stuff... wouldn't you want someone more feminine so it at least was more like what you were normally into? Small steps or whatever?
Castle....its....you...
heck u EM
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or at least I'm the batman clad shlub that Joker kills and reveals for dramatic effect
ahem
I am going to clean up [chat]ham! Please donate to my campaign fund.
i forget about it every year until tax season, which is actually kind of bad because contributing to an RRSP is one of the best ways to increase your tax refund
no just death farts
let me be clear: not "deadly" farts
death farts. farts that smell like a putrefying, slowly deliquescing corpse and linger in the air like a ghost or the memory of a nightmare
50K after income taxes would feel like luxury to us
Ah that usually happens to me when I eat dairy.
it's not necessary
a description of them will usually suffice when it comes to getting across how much of a piece of shit they are
don't even start with me hakkes i swear to god i will pee on your cats
Probably can lump that food into meals and entertainment and feel better
If/when I book flights/get a room I'll start appreciating you.
Oh I'm sorry
How about white ethnonationalists who think Hitler did nothing wrong
Or never be insistent about specificity
But, don't always
Strike a balance. Asses when it's important. For example, I do think it's a reach to call Pewdiepie a Nazi for being a privileged white dipshit who does things for the lulz.
Whereas I think it's a hairsplit on whether Bannon is a Nazi or a White Nationalist
You're secretly corrupt and terrible but the powers are covering it up for the good of the forum?
I take it back then >:(
lolnooope, unsurprisingly those cities are not well run and they let developers build thousands of densely packed mcmansions without giving thought to infrastructue
the single four lane road into town become gridlocked every rush hour commute is just as long as if you were staying in civilization
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
I can agree on that.
yup, harvey dent
If a fart is a "food ghost", they are food wraiths
Angry spirits, that hate life
I mean, obviously.
Who would appreciate her just for her forum posting?
I think very generically using 'nazi' decreases its potency and historical force.
Honestly, even calling Bannon a nazi is eh although he is fairly nazi-adjacent, I guess.
It is important to figure out what words we are using to describe these people.
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
they are 2E farts with level drain and resistance to piercing