lol @ when programs store configuration data in the registry
Let's send an envelope full of glitter to the guy who wrote PuTTY
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
We have a Sophos web filter. It sucks. It's agent-based, there's a service on the workstation that intercepts all traffic on ports 80 and 443.
In order to do any real troubleshooting, you have to turn diagnostic logging on. Doing so requires a regkey to be flipped and the service to be restarted.
The logs aren't shipped anywhere, they're just stored as text files on the local filesystem. There are multiple logs, some in the user's Appdata and some in C:\Windows\Temp. There's no feature to do any kind of circular logging or set any kind of maximum log size.
Normal web browsing activity results in about 50-ish GB of logs per day, all written to the same files. So to do anything with them, I hope you have a third-party text editor that can handle 300+ GB text files. Notepad++ doesn't cut it. We use UltraEdit.
After of course you transfer the 300+ GB text files from the user's workstation to your local workstation.
Which you're probably doing because you have a ticket now for zero free space on a workstation hard drive.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
no limiting to log files that can only be stored on the local machine
this is a product people charge money for?
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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Man, that sucks. Our web filter uses a login exe and then in intercepts via a mirrored port just before the firewall. It has a SQL DB and a bunch of reports. Luckily, I don't have to run reports on it very often, and then explain why it looks like someone is surfing all day long when really they just left ESPN open all day.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I could not disagree with this more.
If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.
Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.
We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I could not disagree with this more.
If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.
It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.
Feral on
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Web filters also protect against a lot honest mistakes, like somebody misspells a URL and accidentally goes to a porn site. They also block a lot of exploit kits. They're a pretty crucial layer to network security IMO, though modern application-layer firewalls include plenty of web-filtering functionality out of the box.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.
Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.
We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I could not disagree with this more.
If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.
It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.
I have no idea why they're so big, either - we actually hit our monthly data cap on cell phone playing some 'white noise' youtube videos for our newborns in the hospital for 3 days, somehow they used like 8 gb of data from maybe 10 hours of basically audio
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.
Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.
We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I could not disagree with this more.
If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.
It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.
Sure it is. you just write in that people can't do that on a work machine, and enforce it if it becomes a problem. Then it's an HR issue. We tell our users that they can use their phones to stream all they want. Our wifi is on a separate physical connection from our network, so if we have 50 people streaming spotify on their phones killing the wifi that doesn't impact people's ability to work so we don't care.
I mean, yes, we block illegal things, and things that are an absolute no like porn, but where i work the people are treated like adults and are trusted to actually do their jobs and not screw around on the internet all day. If they're not capable of that it isn't IT's fault.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.
Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.
We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
I could not disagree with this more.
If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.
It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.
Sure it is. you just write in that people can't do that on a work machine, and enforce it if it becomes a problem. Then it's an HR issue. We tell our users that they can use their phones to stream all they want. Our wifi is on a separate physical connection from our network, so if we have 50 people streaming spotify on their phones killing the wifi that doesn't impact people's ability to work so we don't care.
I mean, yes, we block illegal things, and things that are an absolute no like porn, but where i work the people are treated like adults and are trusted to actually do their jobs and not screw around on the internet all day. If they're not capable of that it isn't IT's fault.
Our web filter is pretty open, with the caveat that it can be an issue between you and your supervisor. I mean, look, there's literally nothing stopping someone from bringing in an iPad or a portable DVD player or a magazine or a stack of Polaroids or a pen and paper or whatever. Goofing off is goofing off.
I had brief experience with Vaeem before I left my last job, I found it to be pretty ok.
I'm back to backup exec now though and every time it breaks I want to kick a puppy. I have to babysit the damned thing nearly every day. Seems every time I leave it alone for more than a couple days the backups stop running for some reason.
Carbonite is fine for remote backups. It annoys me that that's all we have here for backups, but I just don't have the time to set up and babysit shit.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
my ideal backup solution is both file level and then vhd level backups to disk, and then push an offsite copy on a schedule to something like azure or AWS
I had something close to that very briefly with Vaeem and a storage array. a 20TB array for disk backups, and then we made a tape copy of a full backup once a week that went offsite. I wasn't there long enough to know how long but it was estimated that 20TB would have held about 6 months worth of backups, and we did still have the tape copy if the shit hit the fan.
Carbonite is fine for remote backups. It annoys me that that's all we have here for backups, but I just don't have the time to set up and babysit shit.
I did the same. I have remote and a raid for hardware failure.
Nothing local and it bothers me but I also can't clone myself so it is what it is.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
dang that thing is in good shape, too
plastic still beige instead of yellow!
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
There are better solutions than Backup Exec. Most of them aren't cheaper, though. We're moving to some Rapid Recovery software with a dedicated server at each site because it's so much more stable and capable than our current solution, but its cost is a few arms and legs.
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Let's send an envelope full of glitter to the guy who wrote PuTTY
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
we could change it!
https://github.com/KasperDeng/putty/blob/master/putty-src/windows/winstore.c
there ya go!
Theoretically you could make it a json file or something and store it in the directory
actually this would be a good fork
This is a clickable link to my Steam Profile.
I played a video game where character data and the entire persistent world was saved in the registry.
Also, re. .tiff vs .tif: Neither. Fuck that format.
In order to do any real troubleshooting, you have to turn diagnostic logging on. Doing so requires a regkey to be flipped and the service to be restarted.
The logs aren't shipped anywhere, they're just stored as text files on the local filesystem. There are multiple logs, some in the user's Appdata and some in C:\Windows\Temp. There's no feature to do any kind of circular logging or set any kind of maximum log size.
Normal web browsing activity results in about 50-ish GB of logs per day, all written to the same files. So to do anything with them, I hope you have a third-party text editor that can handle 300+ GB text files. Notepad++ doesn't cut it. We use UltraEdit.
After of course you transfer the 300+ GB text files from the user's workstation to your local workstation.
Which you're probably doing because you have a ticket now for zero free space on a workstation hard drive.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
We're migrating away from it this year, thank god.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
no limiting to log files that can only be stored on the local machine
this is a product people charge money for?
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
This is a clickable link to my Steam Profile.
Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.
Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.
I could not disagree with this more.
If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.
Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.
We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.
It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I have no idea why they're so big, either - we actually hit our monthly data cap on cell phone playing some 'white noise' youtube videos for our newborns in the hospital for 3 days, somehow they used like 8 gb of data from maybe 10 hours of basically audio
Sure it is. you just write in that people can't do that on a work machine, and enforce it if it becomes a problem. Then it's an HR issue. We tell our users that they can use their phones to stream all they want. Our wifi is on a separate physical connection from our network, so if we have 50 people streaming spotify on their phones killing the wifi that doesn't impact people's ability to work so we don't care.
I mean, yes, we block illegal things, and things that are an absolute no like porn, but where i work the people are treated like adults and are trusted to actually do their jobs and not screw around on the internet all day. If they're not capable of that it isn't IT's fault.
This is a clickable link to my Steam Profile.
This is a clickable link to my Steam Profile.
Still feel good about not having to deal with Backup Exec any longer.
I had brief experience with Vaeem before I left my last job, I found it to be pretty ok.
I'm back to backup exec now though and every time it breaks I want to kick a puppy. I have to babysit the damned thing nearly every day. Seems every time I leave it alone for more than a couple days the backups stop running for some reason.
I'd rather they just fucking got Mozy or Carbonite.
I had something close to that very briefly with Vaeem and a storage array. a 20TB array for disk backups, and then we made a tape copy of a full backup once a week that went offsite. I wasn't there long enough to know how long but it was estimated that 20TB would have held about 6 months worth of backups, and we did still have the tape copy if the shit hit the fan.
I did the same. I have remote and a raid for hardware failure.
Nothing local and it bothers me but I also can't clone myself so it is what it is.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Fucking thing works and everything.
plastic still beige instead of yellow!
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Is that part of a plumbus in the lower left corner above the keyboard?
I GIS'd plumbus.
I have questions.
Plumb bob.
*raises hand*
Been that way since DST.
I've had to rebuild about 10 jobs because of that shiz.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It just like
makes backups on a schedule and dumps them into media/directories, right?