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JRPG Thread: No P5 spoilers in this thread please cause Atlus might sue you.

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  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    edited March 20
    In automata
    I noticed almost immediately that none of the machines outside the factory are really trying to fight you until you fight them.

    I'm really curious to see where all this is going with YoRHa and people and the resistance and the machines.

    My running theory, because of a broadcast mentioning only a few hundred thousand people on the moon, is that humans have been dead for a really long time and the androids are still fighting because of glitched out broadcasts that keep repeating themselves. There's no way after thousands of years that there's only a few hundred thousand people alive on the moon.

    Note I'm only in the first path right now.

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  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.

    taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions

    the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters

    every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too

    The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.

    but he isn't though

    the plan already failed

    he's just being a selfish dickbag

    It was temporarily halted by losing Grimoire Weiss. It wasn't truly dead-in-the-water until basically the end of the game.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited March 20
    Leggy girls with wide hips, white hair, thigh gap, briefs, and big breasts. Yeah I guess that makes sense

    I kind of wonder if Automata is going to do anything interesting with 2B's design like Nier (apparently?) tried to do with Kaine's

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Nier causes a whole lot of problems and inadvertently fucks up a lot of shit.

    But from his point of view and with the limited knowledge he posses of the grander picture, everything he does is justified.

    He really does not have another option available to him most of the time.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO ROLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAART Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.

    taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions

    the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters

    every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too

    The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.

    but he isn't though

    the plan already failed

    he's just being a selfish dickbag
    aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited March 20
    turtleant wrote: »
    Nier causes a whole lot of problems and inadvertently fucks up a lot of shit.

    But from his point of view and with the limited knowledge he posses of the grander picture, everything he does is justified.

    He really does not have another option available to him most of the time.

    he is the exact definition of the tragic hero as defined by antiquity

    EDIT: his tragic flaw is ironically his stoicism

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
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  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    Nier causes a whole lot of problems and inadvertently fucks up a lot of shit.

    But from his point of view and with the limited knowledge he posses of the grander picture, everything he does is justified.

    He really does not have another option available to him most of the time.

    Yeah, I'm not pinning all the blame on him.

    For example, Devola and Popola could have influenced things in a more positive direction if they had treated Nier as more than just a dumb guy they could manipulate.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.

    taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions

    the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters

    every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too

    The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.

    but he isn't though

    the plan already failed

    he's just being a selfish dickbag
    aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
    shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Oh nier automata spoiler
    There is a character from nier people missed!

    Its Beepy!

    He kinda ascended to godhood in a side book it turns out?

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Oh nier automata spoiler
    There is a character from nier people missed!

    Its Beepy!

    He kinda ascended to godhood in a side book it turns out?

    sure of course why not

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.

    taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions

    the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters

    every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too

    The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.

    but he isn't though

    the plan already failed

    he's just being a selfish dickbag
    aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
    shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
    So you're saying that by the point in time the game shows, the only morally correct thing for humanity to do is let itself slowly go insane and die out as shades.

    Basically self-inflicted xenocide.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.

    taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions

    the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters

    every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too

    The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.

    but he isn't though

    the plan already failed

    he's just being a selfish dickbag
    aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
    shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
    So you're saying that by the point in time the game shows, the only morally correct thing for humanity to do is let itself slowly go insane and die out as shades.

    Basically self-inflicted xenocide.
    my ethical code prevents me from enslaving or subverting sentient beings

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO ROLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAART Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.

    taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions

    the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters

    every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too

    The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.

    but he isn't though

    the plan already failed

    he's just being a selfish dickbag
    aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
    shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
    I mean he was completely desperate so he was making evil choices, but I think that was just because he knew there was no other way that his Yonah would survive, no magic flower that would stop her obliteration. If replicant Nier's choices were boiled down to a clear 'kill someone else's daughter, or let Yonah die,' would he make the same choice as the shadowlord, or would he make the opposite choice? I think he might well choose to kill if he were put into the same situation as the shadowlord was.

    note this does not preclude the shadowlord being a selfish dickbag, I just think Nier is just as capable of making those evil choices, the only thing that's different between them is their circumstances.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    The presentation, characters, and dialog in D3 are so great.

    Weither that's worth it in conjustion with everything else is up to you.

    yeah the creepy old guy following the emotionless girl around while constantly talking about how much he wanted to fuck her was quality scripting

    and then you get piss jokes on top of it

    the whole game is completely repulsive

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    he's not old he just fucks so much that it made him look old

  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    he's not old he just fucks so much that it made him look old

    Specifically because the girl he serves wants him to fuck that much.

    The women hold all the power in Drak3.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    also he has a huge dick

    seriously huge

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    also he has a huge dick

    seriously huge

    A point is made of this

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
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  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    Also, like, the piss joke is probably the only piss joke I've ever liked?

    It plays into the idea that Mikhail is basically a dog that can talk, and Zero treats him as such. So he does what dogs do and just goes wherever. And Zero reacts with an extremely relatable, "Really? You're gonna do this NOW?"

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Also, like, the piss joke is probably the only piss joke I've ever liked?

    It plays into the idea that Mikhail is basically a dog that can talk, and Zero treats him as such. So he does what dogs do and just goes wherever. And Zero reacts with an extremely relatable, "Really? You're gonna do this NOW?"

    He is also a child

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
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  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    Best joke by a mile is the Fairy King, though

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Best joke by a mile is the Fairy King, though

    Actually it's "I surrender"

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • rhylithrhylith Registered User regular
    Waypoint radio spoiled ending U today so I had to do that just to see it.

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  • ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    The presentation, characters, and dialog in D3 are so great.

    Weither that's worth it in conjustion with everything else is up to you.

    yeah the creepy old guy following the emotionless girl around while constantly talking about how much he wanted to fuck her was quality scripting

    and then you get piss jokes on top of it

    the whole game is completely repulsive

    For a minute there, I thought this was a crosspost from a Trump thread.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I saw a bit about that one of my news sites and wondered why I felt my twitter feed suddenly rumble

  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    edited March 21

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    I love that both the winner and runner up for Anime Is For Jurps' JRPG of the generation are getting sequels

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    In before it just turns out to be a remake for iPad.

    Square you have forever burned me.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    we've been good, dustin

    we're finally being rewarded

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited March 21
    rhylith wrote: »
    Waypoint radio spoiled ending U today so I had to do that just to see it.

    That was the first ending I got and it was completely by accident. "Huh, that sounds like an interesting mechanic. Lemme give that a whirl and... oh. Huh."

    I actually feel quite proud of that.

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    In before it just turns out to be a remake for iPad.

    Square you have forever burned me.

    I would be totally cool with this

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    also yes this could be a gacha game but time travel mechanics could be dope as shit in a gacha game

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  • StiltsStilts Machinist "Don't forget to thank me if this works."Registered User regular
    we've been good, dustin

    we're finally being rewarded

    It's no FFX-3, but I'll fuckin' take it

  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    Seriously what is up with cooking mechanics in JRPGs though

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  • AistanAistan Registered User regular
    Oh shit.

    OH SHIT.

    Holy fuck yes please new Radiant Historia oh my god that's all i've ever wanted.

    Please not switch only, please for the love of god not switch only.

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. JUSTICE HAS PREVAILED. Registered User regular
    surprise

    vita only

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Seriously what is up with cooking mechanics in JRPGs though

    the common (and perhaps accurate) perception is that otaku can't cook so they provide the ability to have that satisfaction without actually doing anything

    it's like blue apron except slightly less hoity toity

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Seriously what is up with cooking mechanics in JRPGs though

    the common (and perhaps accurate) perception is that otaku can't cook so they provide the ability to have that satisfaction without actually doing anything

    it's like blue apron except slightly less hoity toity

    Oh man, that's actually pretty plausible, sadly

    also lately I've been finding myself far more interested in JRPGs than WRPGs, and I dunno what's up with that

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds is pumped-up. Registered User regular
    I will cry if it's for iOS/Android.

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  • AistanAistan Registered User regular
    surprise

    vita only

    Fine with me, I actually own one of those.

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