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    A Kobold's KoboldA Kobold's Kobold He/Him MississippiRegistered User regular
    What is with that sheep?
    Okay since I have the April Fool's 2017 badge, can I fuck off from the internet for the next 24 hours?

    Switch Friend Code: SW-3011-6091-2364
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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    Shaz I will never forget the day you responded to an SKFM post complaining about something dumb with "tough noogies".

    It was great.

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    A heart full of autonomous malevolence out to punish us silly humans in service of the great Basilysk
    Vanguard wrote: »
    vangirl just told me has has cancer again for april fool's
    ................

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    wandering wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    vangirl just told me has has cancer again for april fool's
    ................

    Okay Squall.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    I should go play zelda or something. Instead I'm watching dumb videos on youtube.

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    Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    Shaz I will never forget the day you responded to an SKFM post complaining about something dumb with "tough noogies".

    It was great.

    I don't remember this but I believe you

    poo
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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    Shaz I will never forget the day you responded to an SKFM post complaining about something dumb with "tough noogies".

    It was great.

    I don't remember this but I believe you

    It was a while ago. I like anyone who dunked on SKFM.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    @Elldren

    I found this:
    After Vince Calouri was pushed out of Wizards of the Coast he was replaced by Chuck Heubner. Chuck basically had to manage Wizards on the downslope from the Pokemon salad days. Hasbro has been through many boom & bust cycles in the toy business and they have a standard response when it happens: cut headcount and reduce overhead. Since Wizards was de facto the only part of the business that had not been rolled up into Hasbro proper it was not insulated by the successes of other things at Hasbro like GI Joe or Transformers.

    While this was happening there was a big internal fight for control over the CCG business within Hasbro. Brian Goldner who was at the time the head of the Boys Toys (i.e. half the company) division of Hasbro thought that the company was missing a huge window of opportunity to follow up Pokemon with a series of mass-market CCGs linked to Hasbro's core brands GI Joe and Transformers. These battles resulted in things being escalated all the way to the C-Suite and the Hasbro Board, where Brian lost the fight and Wizards retained the exclusive ability within Hasbro to make CCGs. The downside for Wizards is that they were forced to do things with the Duelmaster brand that they did not want to do, and it never got the traction in the US that Wizards thought it could achieve. (In Japan, by contrast, it became a huge best-seller).

    Chuck left after two years and Loren Greenwood, who had been the long time VP of Sales, replaced him in 2004. He was also a visible proponent of the idea that Wizards, and not Boys Toys, should set Hasbro's CCG strategy. Thus when Brian was named COO of the whole company in 2006 and CEO in 2008, Loren had a big problem on his hands. Loren guided the company through the post 3.5e crash of the TRPG market, the loss of the Pokemon franchise, and the unwinding of the Wizards retail strategy. All of this was pretty bitter fruit for hm since he'd been instrumental in building up much of what had to then be torn down. The combination of all these things led to Loren's exit and his replacement by Greg Leeds, who is the current CEO of Wizards.

    Sometime around 2005ish, Hasbro made an internal decision to divide its businesses into two categories. Core brands, which had more than $50 million in annual sales, and had a growth path towards $100 million annual sales, and Non-Core brands, which didn't.

    Under Goldner, the Core Brands would be the tentpoles of the company. They would be exploited across a range of media with an eye towards major motion pictures, following the path Transformers had blazed. Goldner saw what happened to Marvel when they re-oriented their company from a publisher of comic books to a brand building factory (their market capitalization increased by something like 2 billion dollars). He wanted to replicate that at Hasbro.

    Core Brands would get the financing they requested for development of their businesses (within reason). Non-Core brands would not. They would be allowed to rise & fall with the overall toy market on their own merits without a lot of marketing or development support. In fact, many Non-Core brands would simply be mothballed - allowed to go dormant for some number of years until the company was ready to take them down off the shelf and try to revive them for a new generation of kids.

    At the point of the original Hasbro/Wizards merger a fateful decision was made that laid the groundwork for what happened once Greg took over. Instead of focusing Hasbro on the idea that Wizards of the Coast was a single brand, each of the lines of business in Wizards got broken out and reported to Hasbro as a separate entity. This was driven in large part by the fact that the acquisition agreement specified a substantial post-acquisition purchase price adjustment for Wizards' shareholders on the basis of the sales of non-Magic CCGs (i.e. Pokemon).

    This came back to haunt Wizards when Hasbro's new Core/Non-Core strategy came into focus. Instead of being able to say "We're a $100+ million brand, keep funding us as we desire", each of the business units inside Wizards had to make that case separately. So the first thing that happened was the contraction you saw when Wizards dropped new game development and became the "D&D and Magic" company. Magic has no problem hitting the "Core" brand bar, but D&D does. It's really a $25-30 million business, especially since Wizards isn't given credit for the licensing revenue of the D&D computer games.

    It would have been very easy for Goldner et al to tell Wizards "you're done with D&D, put it on a shelf and we'll bring it back 10 years from now as a multi-media property managed from Rhode Island". There's no way that the D&D business circa 2006 could have supported the kind of staff and overhead that it was used to. Best case would have been a very small staff dedicated to just managing the brand and maybe handling some freelance pool doing minimal adventure content. So this was an existential issue (like "do we exist or not") for the part of Wizards that was connected to D&D. That's something between 50 and 75 people.

    Sometime around 2006, the D&D team made a big presentation to the Hasbro senior management on how they could take D&D up to the $50 million level and potentially keep growing it. The core of that plan was a synergistic relationship between the tabletop game and what came to be known as DDI. At the time Hasbro didn't have the rights to do an MMO for D&D, so DDI was the next best thing. The Wizards team produced figures showing that there were millions of people playing D&D and that if they could move a moderate fraction of those people to DDI, they would achieve their revenue goals. Then DDI could be expanded over time and if/when Hasbro recovered the video gaming rights, it could be used as a platform to launch a true D&D MMO, which could take them over $100 million/year.

    The DDI pitch was that the 4th Edition would be designed so that it would work best when played with DDI. DDI had a big VTT component of its design that would be the driver of this move to get folks to hybridize their tabletop game with digital tools. Unfortunately, a tragedy struck the DDI team and it never really recovered. The VTT wasn't ready when 4e launched, and the explicit link between 4e and DDI that had been proposed to Hasbro's execs never materialized. The team did a yoeman's effort to make 4e work anyway while the VTT evolved, but they simply couldn't hit the numbers they'd promised selling books alone. The marketplace backlash to 4e didn't help either.

    Greg wasn't in the hot seat long enough to really take the blame for the 4e/DDI plan, and Wizards just hired a new exec to be in charge of Sales & Marketing, and Bill Slavicsek who headed RPG R&D left last summer, so the team that committed those numbers to Hasbro are gone. The team that's there now probably doesn't have a blank sheet of paper and an open checkbook, but they also don't have to answer to Hasbro for the promises of the prior regime.

    As to their next move? Only time will tell.

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Sup

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    A heart full of autonomous malevolence out to punish us silly humans in service of the great Basilysk
    Everyone gets a cute dog
    Even serial dog abusers

    *the monkey's paw curls a finger*

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    wandering wrote: »
    Everyone gets a cute dog
    Even serial dog abusers

    *the monkey's paw curls a finger*

    n-nooooooo

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    Six wrote: »
    Sup

    I assume you are drunk.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2017
    We have two Hockey groups in and they merged into one mega hell


    Ugh a) Its month end so I have extra paperwork to do
    b) not how I wanted to have my last shift before holidays go.

    bloodyroarxx on
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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Six wrote: »
    Sup

    I assume you are drunk.

    I am, in fact, not.

    Finally made it out of SF and spent the flight being disappointed by Assasin's Creed and then falling asleep to Dr. Strange.

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    But it's not a bad guess

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    Is there an April Fool's thing this year?

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    This is something I DONT want to be April Fools, but know it is.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    What is with that sheep?
    Vanguard wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Welcome to "don't believe internet articles" day.

    how is this any different from the post fact world we already inhabit?

    traditionally, that one day is a joke, a reprieve from the slow drudgery of mediocrity

    in this one, the darkest timeline, we should print all the news we wish was happening as a sober reminder of the world we squandered

    HILLARY REFORMS OBAMACARE, IMPLEMENTS SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE

    UK HOLDS BOOM BOX OVER THEIR HEAD OUTSIDE EU WINDOW - IT ALL WORKS OUT FINE

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    April Fool's on the internet is dumb. I'm glad it's on a Saturday and more easily ignored.

    Does that make me a curmudgeon?

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    A heart full of autonomous malevolence out to punish us silly humans in service of the great Basilysk
    Six wrote: »
    April Fool's on the internet is dumb. I'm glad it's on a Saturday and more easily ignored.

    Does that make me a curmudgeon?
    no

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    A heart full of autonomous malevolence out to punish us silly humans in service of the great Basilysk
    april fools!

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    SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Not awesome.

    can you feel the struggle within?
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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    Geth is slacking

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Geth is perfect and Icy is flawless and it is heresy to say otherwise.
    Geth, recycle the thread

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    GethGeth Legion Perseus VeilRegistered User, Moderator, Penny Arcade Staff, Vanilla Staff vanilla
    This thread is no longer active, and will be recycled.
    On average, this thread was careening by at warp 4.7

    @Organichu will create the new thread
    @simonwolf is backup

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Goddamn, I forgot about this comic.

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