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[Western Animation] RIP Peter Sallis

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edited June 2017 in Debate and/or Discourse
Animation is rapidly displaying sequential images to produce the illusion of movement.

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My mind is blown!

Forms of Animation

Traditional

Your basic "draw lots of pictures and get them flickering" method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhCWmIu1H_g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgghnQF6E4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE3JGv_tRSw

Stop Motion Animation (Claymation)

Instead of drawings, pictures are taken of live props that are slowly adjusted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7vZXjmtWFA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jvOTsi3i64

Computer Generated Images (GCI)

Actually similar to Claymation, in that you have models and you change their appearance from frame to frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo_8g9wpoQc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPW3mvAN0Rc

Or look suspiciously like Claymation if that's your fancy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw

"Flash" Animation

Another sort revolving around the computer, but mainly for two-dimensional appearances. Co-incidentally, can one-for-one replicate the traditional method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZiB_S9VpiU

Mechanical Animation - Animatronics, Puppetry etc.

This one is debatable, as you are just filming props moving in real time, but it has a long history of being produced alongside the other forms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMEuEF9-UbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhKVLNqtK9U


And of course, it's possible to blend these different methods together!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH90a_nJUAE


Now, just about every country in the world has produced animation at one point or another, even Best Korea! However due to reasons, this thread shall be mainly for animation originating from Europe and the Americas, and definitely not southeast of Vladivostok, west of Midway or north of Manilla.


The Players

Disney

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Going strong for 90 years with an aggressively wholesome image. Famous for its fairy tale stories and other theatrical movies, as well as their long lasting characters.

Works of Note: Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, Silly Symphonies, Snow White, Pinnochio, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Wreck-it-Ralph, Frozen, Gargoyles, Darkwing Duck, Ducktales, Phineas and Ferb, Gravity Falls and about a hundred other things


Pixar

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Disney's most famous Subsidiary right now. Single handedly popularised CG Movies for better or worse. Known to be super influential: My own observation is that 80-90% of new stuff at Disney World is Pixar themed.

Works of Note: Luxo Jr, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, WALL-E, Up, Inside Out


Warner Brothers

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Disney's first real rival. While Disney was wholesome, Warner Brothers was more slapstick and adult themed. Hasn't made nearly as many theatrical films. Has a lot of fingers in the superhero pie right now

Works of Note: Looney Tunes, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Elmer Fudd, Foghorn Leghorn, Speedy Gonzales, DC Animated Universe (Batman, Superman, Justice League), Pinky and the Brain, Freakazoid, The Iron Giant, Everything is Awesooome SPACESHIP!!! The Lego Movie


Dreamworks

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The other big theatrical company right now. Was in something of a rut of questionable use of star power to draw in crowds, but has recently improved. Famous for giving marketers "this face":
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But don't be confused, almost every animated movie poster has "this face" these days. Has recently suffered a downsizing, and a lot of shows going straight to Netflix. It will be interesting to see how that pans out.

Works of Note: Shrek, Prince of Egypt, Kung Fu Panda, Madagascar, How to Train Your Dragon


Cartoon Network

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Heir to the Hanna-Barbera throne. First channel really dedicated to cartoons, so it was inevitable they'd make their own.

Works of Note: Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Ed Edd & Eddy, Samurai Jack, Johnny Bravo, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Megas XLR, Adventure Time, Regular Show, The Amazing World of Gumball, Stephen Universe, Over the Garden Wall


Adult Swim

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Cartoon Network's teen/adult spinoff. Started by subverting some of the less remembered Hanna-Barbera shows, and then started producing material of their own

Works of Note: Space Ghost Coast to Coast, Harvey Birdman, Sealab 2021, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Venture Brothers, Metalocalypse, Moral Orel, Too Many Cooks


Nickelodeon

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A major contributor to 90's animated nostalgia. More about sitcoms these days, but it has a remarkably well budgeted show in Avatar.

Works of Note: Rugrats, Hey Arnold, Ahh Real Monsters, Ren & Stimpy, Kablam!, Invader Zim, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Avatar: The Legend of Korra


Aardman

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Upstart little British Claymation studio. Compared to other studios haven't produced much, but are fondly remembered.

Works of Note: Wallace & Gromit, Creature Comforts, Chicken Run, Rex the Runt


Twentieth Century Fox

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Has its own thread, so you can read up on them there.



Now this OP only scratches the surface of stuff to look at. If you're looking for more information on what to watch, especially on less famous stuff, I recommend http://comraderecs.tumblr.com. Yes, it has its roots in 4chan - but no actual links to 4chan, so don't worry - but the recommendations are pretty solid from my perspective. Also nominate creative works I've missed out on for inclusion in the OP. Enjoy!

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    And to kick us off, I report the sad news that Peter Sallis, Voice of Wallace of Wallace & Gromit, has died at the age of 96.

    There's only one appropriate way for the thread to honour him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrmZIgVoQw4

  • KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    Dang, I love Wallace and Gromit... but jeez 96 years old? Wow.

  • grumblethorngrumblethorn Registered User regular
    No bio on Laika?

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    No bio on Laika?

    I knew I forgot one. I'll try and do it tomorrow.

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    Dang, I love Wallace and Gromit... but jeez 96 years old? Wow.

    All death is a tragedy but if you can make it that long and do some cool stuff along the way? Yeah, I can think of worse ends.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Dang, I love Wallace and Gromit... but jeez 96 years old? Wow.

    All death is a tragedy but if you can make it that long and do some cool stuff along the way? Yeah, I can think of worse ends.

    Yeah, he's definitely in the Christopher Lee category of deaths.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Many more details about the new Duck Tales (described as a cross between Indiana Jones and Arrested Development), including even more bonkers-great cast members culled from Community, Silicon Valley and Bojack Horseman for a mix of classic and new characters.

    Also, Donald apparently insists on living in his houseboat in Scrooge's pool, which is perfect. Personally, I'm really impressed with what they did with Flintheart Glomgold:
    One of Scrooge’s wealthy equals in Duckburg is Scottish showman Flintheart Glomgold, whom Youngberg describes as “this kind of go-go ‘80s billionaire who made all his money from branding and getting his face on every storefront.” Angones says, “Glomgold is bigger, faster, and cheaper. An in-joke we had for him was that originally in the comics, he was South African, and then they made him Scottish in [the original] DuckTales, so we really leaned into that and decided that when Glomgold saw that Scrooge was a Scottish billionaire, he decided to be the cheap knock-off. More Scottish and even richer.”

    And yep, Beagle Boys are back. No sign of Magica DeSpell yet.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Paul F Tompkins confirmed he is Gladstone Gander.

    If youre not familiar Gladstone is Donalds cousins Scrooge's other nephew and he is supernaturally Lucky. As such he never works hard for anything which drives Scrooge nuts

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Paul F Tompkins confirmed he is Gladstone Gander.

    If youre not familiar Gladstone is Donalds cousins Scrooge's other nephew and he is supernaturally Lucky. As such he never works hard for anything which drives Scrooge nuts

    So Mr Peanutbutter?

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Paul F Tompkins confirmed he is Gladstone Gander.

    If youre not familiar Gladstone is Donalds cousins Scrooge's other nephew and he is supernaturally Lucky. As such he never works hard for anything which drives Scrooge nuts

    So Mr Peanutbutter?

    Gladstone is a little more self aware.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Surprise Duck Tales short available now! Scrooge and Donald are very much classic Scrooge and Donald.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/08/new-ducktales-short-donalds-birthday-doesnt-go-as-planned

    Two more will go up tomorrow, and three more on next Friday.

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Surprise Duck Tales short available now! Scrooge and Donald are very much classic Scrooge and Donald.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/08/new-ducktales-short-donalds-birthday-doesnt-go-as-planned

    Two more will go up tomorrow, and three more on next Friday.

    I'm so excited for this show, and everything I see from it makes me even happier!

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Today's shorts:

    https://youtu.be/97PgkLg_jFY

    https://youtu.be/wJNdCFptI6k

    Good but Scrooge's voice will definitely take some getting used to.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Again, American audiences perplexed by actual Scottish accent.

    Also, "yeah, we should probably take care of that" was hilarious.

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    It comes from having the same voice actor for 30+ years

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    I am more confused by the world of Cars than ever before.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »


    I am more confused by the world of Cars than ever before.

    The plot and worldbuilding of Cars 2 was already really confusing

  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    This video pretty much sums up how I feel about the world of Cars

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZiRG1Hys0

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    to answer the question, Hitler was a Mercedes-Benz 770.
    Not sure about Jesus... Donkey cart?

  • NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    For all those that watch western magical girl shows, disney released the season 3 intro for Star v. The Foreces of Evil.

    https://youtu.be/2R7gUGbI6m8

    There is supposed to be a tv movie mid July and the season 3 will be in August or september

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    I like that Star is assembling a team sort of.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    More Duck Tales stuff!

    The series will kick off with an hour-long episode (titled "Woo-oo!") on Saturday, August 12 at... midnight. If that time doesn't work for you don't worry, they'll air it 24 times in a row. (Apparently Disney's bullish on the show.) After that the show proper starts Sept. 23.

    There's also a nifty poster at the link too big to post here, and the updated theme song!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EURi91Eb6I8

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Have we seen anything on the new shows version of Magika DeSpell? Is she even in it? She'd have to be right? How could she not?

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Have we seen anything on the new shows version of Magika DeSpell? Is she even in it? She'd have to be right? How could she not?

    You can see a few unannounced characters in the intro if you freeze-frame (including a buff-looking Ms. Beakley and some sort of ninja), but no Magika at all. Which is a little odd, since she's the one who most wanted Scrooge's dime everyone's chasing after in the intro. Maybe she'll be a slow-burn background presence slowly revealed to be the true evil? That would be neat.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Have we seen anything on the new shows version of Magika DeSpell? Is she even in it? She'd have to be right? How could she not?

    Watch the new OP above.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    I didn't see her in it, or if i did I didn't recognize her new design.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    There's a moment when it seems to play up four villains in particular -- Flintheart Glomgold, the new Silicon Valley-esque billionaire, Ma Beagle and Bouncer Beagle (I'm assuming the big guy is Bouncer). Very interesting Magika isn't slotted in there.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    There's a moment when it seems to play up four villains in particular -- Flintheart Glomgold, the new Silicon Valley-esque billionaire, Ma Beagle and Bouncer Beagle (I'm assuming the big guy is Bouncer). Very interesting Magika isn't slotted in there.

    Its the comic beagle boys so theyre identical except for prisoner ID.


    Gkven the lucky dime is so prominent in that Magicka not being in would be odd. Im betting shes the season arc big bad
    Also ahe could be in the theme song if
    She's disguised as Webby

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    There's a moment when it seems to play up four villains in particular -- Flintheart Glomgold, the new Silicon Valley-esque billionaire, Ma Beagle and Bouncer Beagle (I'm assuming the big guy is Bouncer). Very interesting Magika isn't slotted in there.

    Its the comic beagle boys so theyre identical except for prisoner ID.

    Not quite -- if you freeze frame it, you can see a lanky, dull-looking Beagle Boy and a very short Beagle Boy. Plus none of them have prisoner IDs, just a B on their shirts.

    Edit: Looked it up -- the really big Beagle Boy could also be Bankjob, but Bouncer appeared more often in the cartoons. Or maybe they'll have completely different names.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    That be one swole looking Mrs. Beakley, I tell you what. Nothing wrong with that, just... wow.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    http://io9.gizmodo.com/adam-wests-dark-knight-will-rise-once-more-in-batman-vs-1796104408

    He finished his recording for the sequel to Return of the Caped Crusaders. So we get to hear him one last time.

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    I like that Star is assembling a team sort of.

    I like that Jackie Lynn Whoever doesn't so much as show up in a single frame.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Viskod wrote: »
    http://io9.gizmodo.com/adam-wests-dark-knight-will-rise-once-more-in-batman-vs-1796104408

    He finished his recording for the sequel to Return of the Caped Crusaders. So we get to hear him one last time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV4UpCq2azs

    (Sorry, I can't hear the phrase without hearing the song anymore.)

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    More Duck Tales stuff!

    The series will kick off with an hour-long episode (titled "Woo-oo!") on Saturday, August 12 at... midnight. If that time doesn't work for you don't worry, they'll air it 24 times in a row. (Apparently Disney's bullish on the show.) After that the show proper starts Sept. 23.

    There's also a nifty poster at the link too big to post here, and the updated theme song!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EURi91Eb6I8

    So, it looks like they've re-designed Mrs. Beakley as a brick shit-house. My bet is she's more of a body-guard/martial artist this time around than just a maid/nanny.

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    More Duck Tales stuff!

    The series will kick off with an hour-long episode (titled "Woo-oo!") on Saturday, August 12 at... midnight. If that time doesn't work for you don't worry, they'll air it 24 times in a row. (Apparently Disney's bullish on the show.) After that the show proper starts Sept. 23.

    There's also a nifty poster at the link too big to post here, and the updated theme song!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EURi91Eb6I8

    So, it looks like they've re-designed Mrs. Beakley as a brick shit-house. My bet is she's more of a body-guard/martial artist this time around than just a maid/nanny.

    "Scrooge, take care of the boys! I've got work to do."
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  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    I feel like she'd be more at home breaking Goose Wayne's back over her knee.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    MagicPrime wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    More Duck Tales stuff!

    The series will kick off with an hour-long episode (titled "Woo-oo!") on Saturday, August 12 at... midnight. If that time doesn't work for you don't worry, they'll air it 24 times in a row. (Apparently Disney's bullish on the show.) After that the show proper starts Sept. 23.

    There's also a nifty poster at the link too big to post here, and the updated theme song!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EURi91Eb6I8

    So, it looks like they've re-designed Mrs. Beakley as a brick shit-house. My bet is she's more of a body-guard/martial artist this time around than just a maid/nanny.

    "Scrooge, take care of the boys! I've got work to do."
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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Yep, Launchpad is perfect.

    Wonder if Ms. Beakley will be a silent but imposing presence in the show?

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