APEX was a cakewalk.
Then again, i also had decking 7, a fairlight excalibur, and esp at 5 along with 3.0 apps.
Anything the AI threw at me was nuked and gaining control of the turrets let me turn meatspace into meaty space. Eiger was kitted at a sniper, Deitrik was healing and aimbotting and Mercy was tanking, rarely, because those APEX cultists exploded when they rounded the corner.
What difficulty? That's almost my exact setup but cultists had 50+ HP and the robots had 90+.
Normal difficulty. Hard might be different. I also try to save it for the last mission as possible before story progression segments so i can have enough karma and money for it.
But thats the thing. You get ahold of a turret and it chunks everything
They're not if you're mainly going street samurai while dipping into other things. I was mainly a pistoleero (building towards the revolver bc revolvers are cool) who dipped into Shamanism for totem bonus and some utility spells, and after those spells and the occasional armor and gun upgrade I was swimming in dough. Ended up kitting myself out with unnecessary but nifty cyberware with the extra funds.
Though this was all still on Normal difficulty.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
edited July 2017
Mages go through nuyen like candy.
And for the record, I've seen the light of the ley lines, but they're still few and far between. I'd rather they were less OP and normal spells weren't so nerfed.
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3cl1ps3I will build a labyrinth to house the cheeseRegistered Userregular
And for the record, I've seen the light of the ley lines, but they're still few and far between. I'd rather they were less OP and normal spells weren't so nerfed.
I felt like I almost always had a Large or Major Dragon Line to cast on. The only fight I can think of where you don't have ready access to one is the fight outside Shangri'La.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
And for the record, I've seen the light of the ley lines, but they're still few and far between. I'd rather they were less OP and normal spells weren't so nerfed.
I felt like I almost always had a Large or Major Dragon Line to cast on. The only fight I can think of where you don't have ready access to one is the fight outside Shangri'La.
Seems like quite a few in Bonus didn't have one. Thankfully Detention did.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Bonus is a LOT longer than I expected. It's reminding me of Wing Commander IV now, what with
getting a more run down base to escape traitors from the fancy one.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Phew. Bonus cleared. Full Circle, indeed.
My boy goes back to Seattle where it all began. Something about an old friend offering him some money...?
Screw Duncan. He was a jerk, like hell I'm ditching Racter and co because he has a complex about being a runner. Have fun with the HKPF, gunshow.
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Dr. ChaosPost nuclear nuisanceRegistered Userregular
edited July 2017
Just started using the cyber murder whip for the first time.
BRIAN BLESSEDMaybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHHRegistered Userregular
Isane was a cool dudette and I empathise with anyone who has their sandwich fucked with
What kind of fucker just slaps someone's sandwich out of their hands
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Dr. ChaosPost nuclear nuisanceRegistered Userregular
edited July 2017
I love how I have a cannibal on my team and he's still not the creepiest guy on the boat.
Rachter has been slowly revealing himself to be a future super villain in the making.
First time I met him, thought he was kind of boring...Boy, was I fucking wrong on that.
I love how I have a cannibal on my team and he's still not the creepiest guy on the boat.
Rachter has been slowly revealing himself to be a future super villain in the making.
First time I met him, thought he was kind of boring...Boy, was I fucking wrong on that.
See, viewing post-humanists as villains is exactly the sort of thinking that will doom humanity in the end.
From where I'm in the game so far..
He's a psychopath who developed a disturbing lack of empathy early on, doesn't actually care about anybody, is a ruthless killer, and wants people to completely detach themselves from humanity and become machines with his same sociopathic tendencies. He's brilliant but also glorifying his own mental instability.
Transhumanism is an interesting concept but I don't want anything to do with Rachter's vision of it.
He's a great character and a mainstay in my party now but I would absolutely be afraid of him in real life.
I love how I have a cannibal on my team and he's still not the creepiest guy on the boat.
Rachter has been slowly revealing himself to be a future super villain in the making.
First time I met him, thought he was kind of boring...Boy, was I fucking wrong on that.
See, viewing post-humanists as villains is exactly the sort of thinking that will doom humanity in the end.
From where I'm in the game so far..
He's a psychopath who developed a disturbing lack of empathy early on, doesn't actually care about anybody, is a ruthless killer, and wants people to completely detach themselves from humanity and become machines with his same sociopathic tendencies. He's brilliant but also glorifying his own mental instability.
Transhumanism is an interesting concept but I don't want anything to do with Rachter's vision of it.
He's a great character and a mainstay in my party now but I would absolutely be afraid of him in real life.
I was being just a little tongue-in-cheek :P
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Dr. ChaosPost nuclear nuisanceRegistered Userregular
edited July 2017
To be fair though, as much as I implied I'm against all that, I would probably shed a lot of essence without a lot of second thoughts.
I'd be the first in line to get my arm cut off for some sweet chrome. Always been fascinated with the concept of cybernetic augmentation in fiction like Deus Ex and Shadowrun.
I love how I have a cannibal on my team and he's still not the creepiest guy on the boat.
Rachter has been slowly revealing himself to be a future super villain in the making.
First time I met him, thought he was kind of boring...Boy, was I fucking wrong on that.
See, viewing post-humanists as villains is exactly the sort of thinking that will doom humanity in the end.
From where I'm in the game so far..
He's a psychopath who developed a disturbing lack of empathy early on, doesn't actually care about anybody, is a ruthless killer, and wants people to completely detach themselves from humanity and become machines with his same sociopathic tendencies. He's brilliant but also glorifying his own mental instability.
Transhumanism is an interesting concept but I don't want anything to do with Rachter's vision of it.
He's a great character and a mainstay in my party now but I would absolutely be afraid of him in real life.
He isn't quite ruthless, he does have some humanity, as you'll see in some missions.
But no doubt, if you cross him, you'll die screaming while Koschei dissects you.
Soon. Bionics are very very soon. This was last year by the way.
What's notable about this arm is that he's the first guy ever to get a metal-in-bone graft. A lot of the arms before this were basically sleeves you put on the nub and thus couldn't carry anything because there was no support. He's cooking dinner and holding a 3lb crockpot with confidence.
Been a long time since I tried any user created campaigns. Tried a few around the time of Returns but thats about it.
Anything worthwhile popped up since then you guys would reccomend after I'm done with HK?
one thing to note is that different campaigns are compatible with different games (Returns, Dragonfall Director's Cut, or HK.
Nightmare Harvest is a pretty cool one for Returns. It's a solo story, so bear that in mind during character creation, and the writer figured out some pretty clever ways to give Shadowrun a bit more of an open-world approach. A lot of segments in the game can be tackled in any order and have multiple solutions in a very Deus Exy way. It's a pretty good story with an interesting setting (a mysterious wasteland town), some good humor, and a solid plot based on "Red Harvest."
The Penumbra Saga is for Dragonfall DC. It's a full campaign, with runs and hirable runners, that takes your character through the battle against the Tir elves for Northern California's independence. It has a degree of nonlinearity (like Dragonfall, you have several objectives and can choose which missions to go on in which order), some memorable characters, and a few really challenging combats. I found it pretty satisfying as a story and a tactical exercise.
The Caldecott Caper - a shorter sequel campaign to the Penumbra Saga made for Shadowrun HK. It has most of the virtues of its predecessor, it's just a bit tighter and more focused.
These are the best UGCs I've played, and I absolutely recommend them to anyone looking for more Shadowrun, but the thing to bear in mind is that basically every user campaign is at least one of the following three things
doomed to be forever unfinished (these are the exceptions but in each case you can see bits that the designer probably wanted to expand on but didn't)
full of technical issues
sparse and empty-feeling. I haven't played any fan work that feels quite as fully-fledged as the real games in terms of how many people you can talk to, how many places you go, etc. It really makes you appreciate the degree to which even a small studio like HBS can crank out content faster than one person somewhere.
Dr. ChaosPost nuclear nuisanceRegistered Userregular
edited August 2017
Finished the main campaign of Hong Kong. Very good like Dragonfall (but not quite as good), the hours just melt away when playing. Its one of those games you sit down to play and don't even realize two hours have passed.
Could have done without things once again devolving into
Saving the world again. Wish Harebrained Studios would just stick to the shadowrunning. Magic bullshit is fine but they always go too big at the end.
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
Much easier than Returns and Dragonfall too. Last few missions of Dragonfall were straight up murder on me but here, I had a relatively easy time with my vindicator and Gobbet, both of us roleplaying as Heavy and Medic from Team Fortress 2 with her using her support spells to charge me up into a roving death machine.
Started the bonus campaign, premise seems really interesting.
Already firmly in "fuck you, pigs!" mode with my angry 80s action hero wannabe dwarf.
Saving the world again. Wish Harebrained Studios would just stick to the shadowrunning. Magic bullshit is fine but they always go too big at the end.
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
I've only played one GTA game all the way through, so I can't comment on the rest of the series, but San Andreas got pretty grandiose by the end. And I feel like the buildup to the 'save the world' thing in Hong Kong was a lot better than Dragonfall's, there was a much steadier buildup of the threat than "oh fuck the dragon itself is right here", and you could tell things were going to shit on a massive scale earlier.
The Escape Goat on
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38thDoelets never be stupid againwait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered Userregular
Finished the main campaign of Hong Kong. Very good like Dragonfall (but not quite as good), the hours just melt away when playing. Its one of those games you sit down to play and don't even realize two hours have passed.
Could have done without things once again devolving into
Saving the world again. Wish Harebrained Studios would just stick to the shadowrunning. Magic bullshit is fine but they always go too big at the end.
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
Much easier than Returns and Dragonfall too. Last few missions of Dragonfall were straight up murder on me but here, I had a relatively easy time with my vindicator and Gobbet, both of us roleplaying as Heavy and Medic from Team Fortress 2 with her using her support spells to charge me up into a roving death machine.
Started the bonus campaign, premise seems really interesting.
Already firmly in "fuck you, pigs!" mode with my angry 80s action hero wannabe dwarf.
Ending:
I'm not sure what you mean by save the world. The world is fine win or lose. I let her stay in the world and everything was fine. Lucky even!
Finished the main campaign of Hong Kong. Very good like Dragonfall (but not quite as good), the hours just melt away when playing. Its one of those games you sit down to play and don't even realize two hours have passed.
Could have done without things once again devolving into
Saving the world again. Wish Harebrained Studios would just stick to the shadowrunning. Magic bullshit is fine but they always go too big at the end.
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
Much easier than Returns and Dragonfall too. Last few missions of Dragonfall were straight up murder on me but here, I had a relatively easy time with my vindicator and Gobbet, both of us roleplaying as Heavy and Medic from Team Fortress 2 with her using her support spells to charge me up into a roving death machine.
Started the bonus campaign, premise seems really interesting.
Already firmly in "fuck you, pigs!" mode with my angry 80s action hero wannabe dwarf.
Ending:
I'm not sure what you mean by save the world. The world is fine win or lose. I let her stay in the world and everything was fine. Lucky even!
Speaking of lucky, tried that first since it was by far the more interesting option before I reset since I fell like it didn't make sense for the character I've been playing to mow down 80% of his whole crew. He'll kill and steal from pretty much everybody but them. He looks out for his own.
Good old Rachter not giving no shits about killing everyone else, Gaichu doing it was surprising at first but then I remembered he can be pretty damn cold blooded.
Really curious how the hell that would have changed things in the bonus campaign though, whether the demon bug monster luck buff would change things, etc.
Finished the main campaign of Hong Kong. Very good like Dragonfall (but not quite as good), the hours just melt away when playing. Its one of those games you sit down to play and don't even realize two hours have passed.
Could have done without things once again devolving into
Saving the world again. Wish Harebrained Studios would just stick to the shadowrunning. Magic bullshit is fine but they always go too big at the end.
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
Much easier than Returns and Dragonfall too. Last few missions of Dragonfall were straight up murder on me but here, I had a relatively easy time with my vindicator and Gobbet, both of us roleplaying as Heavy and Medic from Team Fortress 2 with her using her support spells to charge me up into a roving death machine.
Started the bonus campaign, premise seems really interesting.
Already firmly in "fuck you, pigs!" mode with my angry 80s action hero wannabe dwarf.
Ending:
I'm not sure what you mean by save the world. The world is fine win or lose. I let her stay in the world and everything was fine. Lucky even!
Speaking of lucky, tried that first since it was by far the more interesting option before I reset since I fell like it didn't make sense for the character I've been playing to mow down 80% of his whole crew. He'll kill and steal from pretty much everybody but them. He looks out for his own.
Good old Rachter not giving not shits about killing everyone else, Gaichu doing it was surprising at first but then I remembered he can be pretty damn cold blooded.
Really curious how the hell that would have changed things in the bonus campaign though, whether the demon bug monster luck buff would change things, etc.
That would be a great way to end GTA, to be fair. And I picture demon luck MC ending up like a Looper victim.
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The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
I can't recall a lick of anything y'all are talking about re: the ending (going back a few pages too) which means I either just totally forgot the ending or took a wildly different dialog path through it.
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Dr. ChaosPost nuclear nuisanceRegistered Userregular
edited August 2017
Are there any new weapons/armor to buy in the bonus campaign?
The slow feed of nuyen in these games makes me paranoid about spending money.
if there isn't, probably going to just smash as much jazz and cram into my body as metahumanly possible.
Finished the main campaign of Hong Kong. Very good like Dragonfall (but not quite as good), the hours just melt away when playing. Its one of those games you sit down to play and don't even realize two hours have passed.
Could have done without things once again devolving into
Saving the world again. Wish Harebrained Studios would just stick to the shadowrunning. Magic bullshit is fine but they always go too big at the end.
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
Much easier than Returns and Dragonfall too. Last few missions of Dragonfall were straight up murder on me but here, I had a relatively easy time with my vindicator and Gobbet, both of us roleplaying as Heavy and Medic from Team Fortress 2 with her using her support spells to charge me up into a roving death machine.
Started the bonus campaign, premise seems really interesting.
Already firmly in "fuck you, pigs!" mode with my angry 80s action hero wannabe dwarf.
Ending:
I'm not sure what you mean by save the world. The world is fine win or lose. I let her stay in the world and everything was fine. Lucky even!
Speaking of lucky, tried that first since it was by far the more interesting option before I reset since I fell like it didn't make sense for the character I've been playing to mow down 80% of his whole crew. He'll kill and steal from pretty much everybody but them. He looks out for his own.
Good old Rachter not giving not shits about killing everyone else, Gaichu doing it was surprising at first but then I remembered he can be pretty damn cold blooded.
Really curious how the hell that would have changed things in the bonus campaign though, whether the demon bug monster luck buff would change things, etc.
Don't think there is any new weapons/armor/spells. They give mono filament whips to the bad guys though.
Continuing ending talk:
Yeah, see my mage would totally blow everyone up, just not on purpose. Darn bouncing fireballs/Ball Lightning OOPS!
Also I couldn't get the good ending with her, because when isobel asked me to leave her alone and got cranky and didn't say anything else when pressed, I thought she was done with new stuff. I didn't think to try and press her again after another mission, so I missed the story about the person who beat the yama king.
I haven't taken my mage past the intro of the bonus, but in that first quest where you have to recover the object from the bar, it conveniently falls off the shelf, and rolls next to your foot. Lucky!
Are there any new weapons/armor to buy in the bonus campaign?
The slow feed of nuyen in these games makes me paranoid about spending money.
if there isn't, probably going to just smash as much jazz and cram into my body as metahumanly possible.
Not that I recall, the vendor just pretty much has everything from the endgame.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
This is random, but I don't see a way of accessing rewards from the first Shadowrun campaign. It used to be accessed from the HBS site, but you can't log into it anymore?
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What difficulty? That's almost my exact setup but cultists had 50+ HP and the robots had 90+.
But thats the thing. You get ahold of a turret and it chunks everything
Steam - NotoriusBEN | Uplay - notoriusben | Xbox,Windows Live - ThatBEN
Much easier with a pc decker.
Is0bel just isn't, baseline, a good hacker for a lot of missions, compared to PC. This is, of course, intentional.
You can give her better stuff, but I feel like making investments into net running kinda defeats the purpose of not playing a decker yourself.
I managed once I figured out how to navigate. It forces you to learn the new Matrix systems inside and out.
Also, Overwatching was a lifesaver.
They're not if you're mainly going street samurai while dipping into other things. I was mainly a pistoleero (building towards the revolver bc revolvers are cool) who dipped into Shamanism for totem bonus and some utility spells, and after those spells and the occasional armor and gun upgrade I was swimming in dough. Ended up kitting myself out with unnecessary but nifty cyberware with the extra funds.
Though this was all still on Normal difficulty.
And for the record, I've seen the light of the ley lines, but they're still few and far between. I'd rather they were less OP and normal spells weren't so nerfed.
I felt like I almost always had a Large or Major Dragon Line to cast on. The only fight I can think of where you don't have ready access to one is the fight outside Shangri'La.
Seems like quite a few in Bonus didn't have one. Thankfully Detention did.
Screw Duncan. He was a jerk, like hell I'm ditching Racter and co because he has a complex about being a runner. Have fun with the HKPF, gunshow.
Holy shit.
What kind of fucker just slaps someone's sandwich out of their hands
First time I met him, thought he was kind of boring...Boy, was I fucking wrong on that.
See, viewing post-humanists as villains is exactly the sort of thinking that will doom humanity in the end.
He's the best character on the boat.
I mean, he is a sociopathic cyborg with a murder robot. I don't really foresee him saving humanity.
He'll save humanity from themselves.
Transhumanism is an interesting concept but I don't want anything to do with Rachter's vision of it.
He's a great character and a mainstay in my party now but I would absolutely be afraid of him in real life.
I was being just a little tongue-in-cheek :P
I'd be the first in line to get my arm cut off for some sweet chrome. Always been fascinated with the concept of cybernetic augmentation in fiction like Deus Ex and Shadowrun.
But no doubt, if you cross him, you'll die screaming while Koschei dissects you.
What's notable about this arm is that he's the first guy ever to get a metal-in-bone graft. A lot of the arms before this were basically sleeves you put on the nub and thus couldn't carry anything because there was no support. He's cooking dinner and holding a 3lb crockpot with confidence.
Steam - NotoriusBEN | Uplay - notoriusben | Xbox,Windows Live - ThatBEN
Anything worthwhile popped up since then you guys would reccomend after I'm done with HK?
one thing to note is that different campaigns are compatible with different games (Returns, Dragonfall Director's Cut, or HK.
Nightmare Harvest is a pretty cool one for Returns. It's a solo story, so bear that in mind during character creation, and the writer figured out some pretty clever ways to give Shadowrun a bit more of an open-world approach. A lot of segments in the game can be tackled in any order and have multiple solutions in a very Deus Exy way. It's a pretty good story with an interesting setting (a mysterious wasteland town), some good humor, and a solid plot based on "Red Harvest."
The Penumbra Saga is for Dragonfall DC. It's a full campaign, with runs and hirable runners, that takes your character through the battle against the Tir elves for Northern California's independence. It has a degree of nonlinearity (like Dragonfall, you have several objectives and can choose which missions to go on in which order), some memorable characters, and a few really challenging combats. I found it pretty satisfying as a story and a tactical exercise.
The Caldecott Caper - a shorter sequel campaign to the Penumbra Saga made for Shadowrun HK. It has most of the virtues of its predecessor, it's just a bit tighter and more focused.
These are the best UGCs I've played, and I absolutely recommend them to anyone looking for more Shadowrun, but the thing to bear in mind is that basically every user campaign is at least one of the following three things
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Could have done without things once again devolving into
Its like playing GTA and then finding out in the last act you have to stop Godzilla from destroying a city.
Much easier than Returns and Dragonfall too. Last few missions of Dragonfall were straight up murder on me but here, I had a relatively easy time with my vindicator and Gobbet, both of us roleplaying as Heavy and Medic from Team Fortress 2 with her using her support spells to charge me up into a roving death machine.
Started the bonus campaign, premise seems really interesting.
Good old Rachter not giving no shits about killing everyone else, Gaichu doing it was surprising at first but then I remembered he can be pretty damn cold blooded.
Really curious how the hell that would have changed things in the bonus campaign though, whether the demon bug monster luck buff would change things, etc.
The slow feed of nuyen in these games makes me paranoid about spending money.
if there isn't, probably going to just smash as much jazz and cram into my body as metahumanly possible.
Don't think there is any new weapons/armor/spells. They give mono filament whips to the bad guys though.
Continuing ending talk:
Also I couldn't get the good ending with her, because when isobel asked me to leave her alone and got cranky and didn't say anything else when pressed, I thought she was done with new stuff. I didn't think to try and press her again after another mission, so I missed the story about the person who beat the yama king.
I haven't taken my mage past the intro of the bonus, but in that first quest where you have to recover the object from the bar, it conveniently falls off the shelf, and rolls next to your foot. Lucky!
Not that I recall, the vendor just pretty much has everything from the endgame.
But I've been playing Age of Empires III.
"We have years of struggle ahead, mostly within ourselves." - Made in USA
I have to say, I forgot how good DMS' OST is. Probably the best of the three.