I do love Disney's interesting scheduling method of 'build up massive amounts of intrest and fans and then kill it'
They havent adapted very well to their post-tween years. The days of Hannah Montana and Wizards Of Waverly Place gave them a cartoonish amount of profit for basically no effort or cost, but now the tween fad is over and they dont seem to know how to handle making actual shows anymore.
A friend of mine that's a recovering meth addict described it perfectly to me recently
Disney's TV scheduling basically operates on the same level as a meth user trying to decide which thing needs dusting more.
There's a nearly endless pause, followed by a furious cleaning of a few things, followed by goldfish memory kicking in and back to oh god what do I clean first
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I do love Disney's interesting scheduling method of 'build up massive amounts of intrest and fans and then kill it'
Gravity Falls says hello.
Pretty sure Gravity Falls wasn't killed prematurely. It probably could've benefited from a third season, sure. Or even one or two more episodes! But it was ended where it did on purpose with the support of its creators, far as I'm aware. The series ran its course, finished its myth arc, and ended in a pretty satisfying (but not perfect) way. Which is more than be said for a lot of TV shows in general, never mind cartoons.
Unless new information recently came to light showing Disney did kill it prematurely?
I do love Disney's interesting scheduling method of 'build up massive amounts of intrest and fans and then kill it'
Gravity Falls says hello.
Pretty sure Gravity Falls wasn't killed prematurely. It probably could've benefited from a third season, sure. Or even one or two more episodes! But it was ended where it did on purpose with the support of its creators, far as I'm aware. The series ran its course, finished its myth arc, and ended in a pretty satisfying (but not perfect) way. Which is more than be said for a lot of TV shows in general, never mind cartoons.
Unless new information recently came to light showing Disney did kill it prematurely?
As far as I know, it lasted as long as the show creators wanted it too. They got to finish their story and leave it open for future stories if they wanted to come back to the setting.
But the scheduling for when the episodes aired was insane. Long periods of nothing, then they'd dump a half dozen episodes in a day or two, then back to months of nothing.
I do love Disney's interesting scheduling method of 'build up massive amounts of intrest and fans and then kill it'
Gravity Falls says hello.
Pretty sure Gravity Falls wasn't killed prematurely. It probably could've benefited from a third season, sure. Or even one or two more episodes! But it was ended where it did on purpose with the support of its creators, far as I'm aware. The series ran its course, finished its myth arc, and ended in a pretty satisfying (but not perfect) way. Which is more than be said for a lot of TV shows in general, never mind cartoons.
Unless new information recently came to light showing Disney did kill it prematurely?
As far as I know, it lasted as long as the show creators wanted it too. They got to finish their story and leave it open for future stories if they wanted to come back to the setting.
But the scheduling for when the episodes aired was insane. Long periods of nothing, then they'd dump a half dozen episodes in a day or two, then back to months of nothing.
Welcome to season three of the original Avatar. No channel is immune to dumb scheduling.
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I do love Disney's interesting scheduling method of 'build up massive amounts of intrest and fans and then kill it'
Gravity Falls says hello.
Pretty sure Gravity Falls wasn't killed prematurely. It probably could've benefited from a third season, sure. Or even one or two more episodes! But it was ended where it did on purpose with the support of its creators, far as I'm aware. The series ran its course, finished its myth arc, and ended in a pretty satisfying (but not perfect) way. Which is more than be said for a lot of TV shows in general, never mind cartoons.
Unless new information recently came to light showing Disney did kill it prematurely?
As far as I know, it lasted as long as the show creators wanted it too. They got to finish their story and leave it open for future stories if they wanted to come back to the setting.
But the scheduling for when the episodes aired was insane. Long periods of nothing, then they'd dump a half dozen episodes in a day or two, then back to months of nothing.
Oh yes, I'm well aware of the bizarre scheduling. I started watching Gravity Falls when like four episodes had been released total. Supposedly it improves ratings of each individual episode? I don't understand how the heck it works, but Alex Hirsch claimed at some point that he got episodes pushed out early and their ratings were way worse by comparison. So there's some method to the madness, though hell if I can see what it is.
I think Disney learned their lesson Star Vs has been relatively consistent with it's releases and they got a group f very in demand actors for DUcktales so they can't really dick around on production or they lose the whole cast to other commitments
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I do love Disney's interesting scheduling method of 'build up massive amounts of intrest and fans and then kill it'
Gravity Falls says hello.
Pretty sure Gravity Falls wasn't killed prematurely. It probably could've benefited from a third season, sure. Or even one or two more episodes! But it was ended where it did on purpose with the support of its creators, far as I'm aware. The series ran its course, finished its myth arc, and ended in a pretty satisfying (but not perfect) way. Which is more than be said for a lot of TV shows in general, never mind cartoons.
Unless new information recently came to light showing Disney did kill it prematurely?
As far as I know, it lasted as long as the show creators wanted it too. They got to finish their story and leave it open for future stories if they wanted to come back to the setting.
But the scheduling for when the episodes aired was insane. Long periods of nothing, then they'd dump a half dozen episodes in a day or two, then back to months of nothing.
Oh yes, I'm well aware of the bizarre scheduling. I started watching Gravity Falls when like four episodes had been released total. Supposedly it improves ratings of each individual episode? I don't understand how the heck it works, but Alex Hirsch claimed at some point that he got episodes pushed out early and their ratings were way worse by comparison. So there's some method to the madness, though hell if I can see what it is.
Depends on if ratings is a valid end goal. If it's bad or outdated, then strategy built around it will seem random because it is random.
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I think Disney learned their lesson Star Vs has been relatively consistent with it's releases and they got a group f very in demand actors for DUcktales so they can't really dick around on production or they lose the whole cast to other commitments
Production isn't the problem with the shows that get insane airing schedules. That all comes out on the other side.
I think Disney learned their lesson Star Vs has been relatively consistent with it's releases and they got a group f very in demand actors for DUcktales so they can't really dick around on production or they lose the whole cast to other commitments
Production isn't the problem with the shows that get insane airing schedules. That all comes out on the other side.
Yeah, it's not uncommon for episodes to be finished looooooooooong before they air.
I'm generally pretty good at sussing out corporate reasons for weird decisions but I'm having trouble figuring out how this is still a thing. Nick had lost confidence with Airbender by season 3 so that was a burnoff move, but supposedly Disney was happy with the performance of Gravity Falls.
I think Disney learned their lesson Star Vs has been relatively consistent with it's releases and they got a group f very in demand actors for DUcktales so they can't really dick around on production or they lose the whole cast to other commitments
Production isn't the problem with the shows that get insane airing schedules. That all comes out on the other side.
Yeah, it's not uncommon for episodes to be finished looooooooooong before they air.
I'm generally pretty good at sussing out corporate reasons for weird decisions but I'm having trouble figuring out how this is still a thing. Nick had lost confidence with Airbender by season 3 so that was a burnoff move, but supposedly Disney was happy with the performance of Gravity Falls.
I kinda see why they do it, its to make kids pester their parents to watch the 'new' episode when it comes out, but they do it too far in advance. Peak pestering power is at about 2 weeks of continuous commercials. My son wanted to watch nothing but duck tales for 2 weeks after the premier, now he's bored with it since there is only one episode. So they are relying on ME remembering he liked the show? Sure, I'll tune in for this because it's better than Paw Patrol, but by that logic you could air the show at any time.
I think Disney learned their lesson Star Vs has been relatively consistent with it's releases and they got a group f very in demand actors for DUcktales so they can't really dick around on production or they lose the whole cast to other commitments
Production isn't the problem with the shows that get insane airing schedules. That all comes out on the other side.
Yeah, it's not uncommon for episodes to be finished looooooooooong before they air.
I'm generally pretty good at sussing out corporate reasons for weird decisions but I'm having trouble figuring out how this is still a thing. Nick had lost confidence with Airbender by season 3 so that was a burnoff move, but supposedly Disney was happy with the performance of Gravity Falls.
I feel like in the modern era a lot of it has to do with each channel having an app that they want to push. That's certainly behind a lot of Cartoon Network's shenanigans, they figure they can optimize eyeballs by only airing the most popular shows on the actual channel all the time and satiate the fans of other content because it's all there for you to watch on the app if you have the subscription needed to see the channel anyway.
More of a "And the story continues!" kind of deal.
Yeah, they wrapped up the Dominator arc, rebuilt the galaxy and then Wander and Sylvia bubbled off to continue having adventures and making friends.
It was a good end to a fun show that I'm glad I started watching.
I don't know, the librarian was pretty awesome too.
Also that ending with Gyro seemed to be him getting the idea for Gizmoduck, but it seemed like he has evil plans for it. Not sure I like this iteration of Gyro having an evil genius vibe.
I don't know, the librarian was pretty awesome too.
Also that ending with Gyro seemed to be him getting the idea for Gizmoduck, but it seemed like he has evil plans for it. Not sure I like this iteration of Gyro having an evil genius vibe.
I think it's more well intentioned but arrogant
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Gyro was almost always a kindly, workaholic pushover with miracle powers that got himself into moderate amounts of trouble but didn't have much variety in his stories. I like him having a little more bite.
I think June Foray use to do Ma Beagle but Famous Character Actor Margo Martindale is pretty dang great too
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I like how they referenced Lillehammer at the board meeting because Don Rosa did a comic set there for the Winter Olympics of 1994. Also a Plain Awful callback.
I hope they also mention Finland at some point because Don Rosa's Kalevala-based story is fantastic, even for him.
Well, I found them. Those were some great episodes. I like that the nephews seem to genuinely try to be understanding of Webby's social maladjustments (and I'm side-eyeing Beakley a bit for it). Dewey and Webby in particular seem like they will be the most common partners in crime in the new series.
New Gyro is weird. Kind of Spark-y. Not sure if I'm a fan. The Beagles continue to be amusing.
So we've got Webby focus, Louie focus, and partial Dewey focus. Huey should probably be next, right?
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They havent adapted very well to their post-tween years. The days of Hannah Montana and Wizards Of Waverly Place gave them a cartoonish amount of profit for basically no effort or cost, but now the tween fad is over and they dont seem to know how to handle making actual shows anymore.
Disney's TV scheduling basically operates on the same level as a meth user trying to decide which thing needs dusting more.
There's a nearly endless pause, followed by a furious cleaning of a few things, followed by goldfish memory kicking in and back to oh god what do I clean first
Pretty sure Gravity Falls wasn't killed prematurely. It probably could've benefited from a third season, sure. Or even one or two more episodes! But it was ended where it did on purpose with the support of its creators, far as I'm aware. The series ran its course, finished its myth arc, and ended in a pretty satisfying (but not perfect) way. Which is more than be said for a lot of TV shows in general, never mind cartoons.
Unless new information recently came to light showing Disney did kill it prematurely?
As far as I know, it lasted as long as the show creators wanted it too. They got to finish their story and leave it open for future stories if they wanted to come back to the setting.
But the scheduling for when the episodes aired was insane. Long periods of nothing, then they'd dump a half dozen episodes in a day or two, then back to months of nothing.
Welcome to season three of the original Avatar. No channel is immune to dumb scheduling.
Oh yes, I'm well aware of the bizarre scheduling. I started watching Gravity Falls when like four episodes had been released total. Supposedly it improves ratings of each individual episode? I don't understand how the heck it works, but Alex Hirsch claimed at some point that he got episodes pushed out early and their ratings were way worse by comparison. So there's some method to the madness, though hell if I can see what it is.
Depends on if ratings is a valid end goal. If it's bad or outdated, then strategy built around it will seem random because it is random.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Production isn't the problem with the shows that get insane airing schedules. That all comes out on the other side.
Yeah, it's not uncommon for episodes to be finished looooooooooong before they air.
I'm generally pretty good at sussing out corporate reasons for weird decisions but I'm having trouble figuring out how this is still a thing. Nick had lost confidence with Airbender by season 3 so that was a burnoff move, but supposedly Disney was happy with the performance of Gravity Falls.
I kinda see why they do it, its to make kids pester their parents to watch the 'new' episode when it comes out, but they do it too far in advance. Peak pestering power is at about 2 weeks of continuous commercials. My son wanted to watch nothing but duck tales for 2 weeks after the premier, now he's bored with it since there is only one episode. So they are relying on ME remembering he liked the show? Sure, I'll tune in for this because it's better than Paw Patrol, but by that logic you could air the show at any time.
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I feel like in the modern era a lot of it has to do with each channel having an app that they want to push. That's certainly behind a lot of Cartoon Network's shenanigans, they figure they can optimize eyeballs by only airing the most popular shows on the actual channel all the time and satiate the fans of other content because it's all there for you to watch on the app if you have the subscription needed to see the channel anyway.
I miss Wander Over Yonder
More of a "And the story continues!" kind of deal.
Yeah, they wrapped up the Dominator arc, rebuilt the galaxy and then Wander and Sylvia bubbled off to continue having adventures and making friends.
It was a good end to a fun show that I'm glad I started watching.
I assumed it involved hot topic, rat fink, Heavy metal comics and metallica
Something something Monkeyboy.
Lil' Bulb for best new character?
I don't know, the librarian was pretty awesome too.
I think it's more well intentioned but arrogant
Technically, it's the original Webby's doll.
More so, he will fly things that have no business of flying for days...until you get where you need to be.
Every flying object is basically his very own tardis
Edit: long beaten!
I hope they also mention Finland at some point because Don Rosa's Kalevala-based story is fantastic, even for him.
Can't wait for more.
Yeah I absolutely loved that. It felt so true to the character and I couldn't stop grinning.
Time to try and find them, then! Thanks for the heads up.
New Gyro is weird. Kind of Spark-y. Not sure if I'm a fan. The Beagles continue to be amusing.
So we've got Webby focus, Louie focus, and partial Dewey focus. Huey should probably be next, right?
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