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Bloat drone are amazing? Not sure where this mediocre idea is from?
They have more wounds than a helbrute, the same armour and toughness, but with an invulnerable save and disgustingly resilient!
Add in the fact that they have two heavy flamers with an extra point of str and reroll wounds of one baked in, on a fast (for DG) flying body and you have one of the best units in current deathguard easily.
My favourite tactic so far is to have it advance in the bell aura for more consistent speed, fly out ahead, spray a unit turn on and then dare the opponent to charge it.
I'm also a real big fan of the army special rule a someone who plays a lot of cultists, makes them even more efficient for their points cost.
Drones and brutes fill different roles with brutes being combat specialist are good at range. My sonic brute has been pretty great, when it lives.
Most of the folks in my group at least have found drones to just die pretty quickly. DG so far haven't had a great showing but I think the codex will help that a lot.
I have one dread and keep putting it in because it is pretty cheap.
It has been charged or blown up first turn for like the last 3 games.
But considering how damn good my blastmasters have been I would say 2? Its a lot of dakka.
Huh. Just got word from the local Games Workshop that the big game they'd planned for Saturday was still good to go. In Jacksonville Florida. That's a hardcore manager.
Didn't Jacksonville just get an evacuation order? Because if so yeah I would do that.
I am planning out my lists for this weekend. I have to Alpha Legion list I can try. Or I can do more EC. A lot of that is because my EC has been rocking and I kind of don't want to use orks for cultist this weekend. The AL list uses 45 cultist for troops and has 8 cp at 1500 pts though. At 2k I add termis, oblits, and a heldrake swapping out the rhino and plasma havocs.
Maybe I will not use a daemon prince one day but slaanesh princes are so damn good.
500 points
HQ
Company Commander
Chainsword, Laspistol
Tempestor Prime
Chainsword, Plasma Pistol
Troops
2x Infantry Squad w plasma and lascannon
5 Scions w/2 plasma + plasma pistol
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Demolisher
Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamers, Storm Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
1000 points
HQ
Company Commander
Boltgun, Chainsword
Tempestor Prime
Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod
Troops
2 x Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
10 Scions w/ 4 plasma + plasma pistol
10 Scions w/ 4 melta + hotshot pistol
Fast Attack
Hellhound
Heavy Flamer, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Demolisher
Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamers, Storm Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum)
HQ
Company Commander
Boltgun, Chainsword
Company Commander
Boltgun, Chainsword
Troops
1 x Infantry Squad w/ Lascannon
2 x Infantry Squad
DG review including the new units. Some are kind of neat. Deathshroud Termis are 50 pts base before the weapons. Their base weapons are another like 25 points. 4" movement, halve the advance because they are in cataphractii armor.
But they also have manreapers which is an awesome weapon.
But they are basically all characters and buff other DG stuff. And have super flamer pistols too.
Still DG looks super interesting after watching this.
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I love them so much.
I assumed the soft insides were a joke.
Land Raider Redeemer or Land Raider Crusader?
Since the Crusader started out as a Black Templars vehicle, I would assume their parent chapter would also have them, and... well... bolters.
But I can also see the Redeemer with its purge the unclean with flame theme.
Ultimately, as a codex chapter, I could use either, but I'm trying to narrow it down to one. I'm leaning towards the Redeemer because I already have plenty of heavy bolters in my company.
My list:
Alpha Legion
Battalion~1k points (just over so was he)
1x Prince with wings-slaanesh, diabolic strength, elixir (slaanesh relic +1 attack +1 str) with tactics
1x Sorc-normal load out with prescience and the FNP spell
Troops:
12xCultist
13xCultist (something like this)
7xCSM with a plasma and combi-plasma
Flyer:
Drake with Baleflamer
Heavy support:
Oblits
Fast Attack:
Bikersx3 w/ 2xplasma and 1 combiplasma
He had a something like this:
1x Necron Lord-staff thing
1xNecron Overlord w/scythe
Troops:
~13xWarriors
~12xWarriors
5xImmortals
Other:
10xFlayed Ones
My MVP was the drake. First turn shut down 10x warriors and killed them and the overlord.
Turn 2 it shut down the other warriors, the lord, and the immortals.
Bikes were great doing a lot of wounds. Veterans on the long war on them is really mean. The Oblits were also vicious and I rolled well on them. Well worth their points now.
Prince is a blender but only killed the lord as it was all he got to. He was in it with the immortals when we called it and would of easily killed them.
I am loving my codex and army. I just feel I have a ton of good units I could use at will. I used more stratagems tonight including double shot on the oblits and veterans on the bikers to finish a unit. I daemonforged the drake too.
I love it. Lots of strategic choices and ways to look at the game. Its hard to get myself to try my ork boyz.
Top it off a bro has the full chaos dark vengence set he is selling me. He bought it ages ago on sale for the DA side. So finally can have actual cultist not orks in my army.
My last game verse a Genestealer Cult army taught me a lot more than tonight but I used it tonight. Things that kind of go for everyone and did play in to tonights game.
A five man sniper scout squad with camo cloaks sitting in a ruin with a clear line of sight to an objective basically harassed my opponent for the entire game, were almost impossible to kill, could snipe characters regardless of their distance compared to other units, and gave out a handful of bonus mortal wounds to boot.
The only problem is that now I have to paint the little bastards.
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Reading Front Line Gaming's NOVA after action the dudes Scout Bikers were a key component of his army because they destroy stuff like conscripts. He was playing a Raven Guard successor so they were even harder to kill than normal.
Me?
I play Emp's children. Whats a cover save?
Also watch out for Iron Warriors/Dorn based chapter because they are like, what is cover and why do I care?
I feel people aren't playing with enough cover.
This is from NOVA and to me this is a minimum set up of terrain. Lots of places with cover and at least some line of sight blockers in the middle.
I've seen it said consistently that European players tend to use much more terrain than American ones do. Personally I love a super dense board with multiple overlapping layers, even though it makes moving models and determining los more difficult.
I pretty obsessively use cover and actually have rather infantry heavy armies. Vehicles also make good mobile LOS cover for some units as well.
But it means a second helbrute to convert to a sonic dread. This might be the list I first try with it. Lots of different threats. A lot of range with blastmasters and havocs. Some closer in stuff like the plasma havocs which I tend to use to threaten drops. Drake, termis+sorc with a jump pack, and oblits to get at juicy bits. A pretty nice cultist screen for different uses. Eventually the havocs get dropped and I move some points around with cultist and such for a mauler fiend instead of the plasma havocs. This is a nice forward screen with my daemon prince. Termis can be swapped for possessed with a rhino as well.
++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [39 PL, 723pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Legion: Emperor's Children
+ HQ +
Dark Apostle [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Slaanesh, Power maul
+ Heavy Support +
Havocs [7 PL, 132pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Combi-plasma
. Havoc w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Havoc w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Havoc w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
. Havoc w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
Havocs [7 PL, 135pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Heavy bolter
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Heavy bolter
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Missile launcher
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Lascannon
Obliterators [10 PL, 195pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, 3x Obliterator
+ Flyer +
Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, Mark of Slaanesh
++ Vanguard Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [16 PL, 304pts] ++
+ Elites +
Sonic Dreadnought [8 PL, 152pts]: Helbrute fist, Twin blastmaster
Sonic Dreadnought [8 PL, 152pts]: Helbrute fist, Twin blastmaster
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [33 PL, 584pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Legion: Emperor's Children
+ HQ +
Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 180pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon
. Slaanesh: Diabolic Strength
Sorcerer [6 PL, 102pts]: Bolt pistol, Delightful Agonies, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience
+ Troops +
Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Autogun
Noise Marines [6 PL, 111pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Bolt pistol, Sonic blaster
Noise Marines [6 PL, 111pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Bolt pistol, Sonic blaster
++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [21 PL, 388pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Legion: Emperor's Children
+ HQ +
Sorcerer with Jump Pack [7 PL, 126pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime
+ Elites +
Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 262pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Combi-plasma, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power axe
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power axe
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power axe
. Terminator: Combi-plasma, Power axe
++ Total: [109 PL, 1999pts] ++
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Metallica: 6+ FnP
Stygies: Infantry -1 to hit if more than 12" away (would that be the third time now that they used that trait?)
Mars: Roll two dice for canticles
I wonder what new background is the explanation for the Stygies trait. I don't remember anything about them being particular stealthy except for wearing black robes? Anyway, I have to really get going with the painting, only 3 Kataphrons finished so far.
Stygies and Metallica are reuses. Stygies would be Raven Guard/Alpha Legion and Metallica is Iron Hands.
https://warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/forge-world-focus-mars-sep-11gw-homepage-post-4/
The dogma makes running Cawl a necessity even more than before for a Mars army it seems.
edit: Maybe there'll be a cp upgrade for the Tech Priest like there is for Chapter Masters.
The Fleshmower Bloat Drone is bosssss
Its not Raven Guard but denying the benefit of cover has been useful as hell.
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This.
A Fist Intercessor firing into cover will get the same armor penetration as a Rubric marine.
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