We played a multi-year WFRP 1st Ed campaign, and I loved the wonky bastard. The GM ruled that it was random character creation, but if you had to roll a new character then you had free reign to spend the same amount of XP that your previous character had, so when I got a debilitating head injury eighteen months in I was able to create a slightly more powerful character as he wasn't constrained by the career choices available as the plot progressed. I still wasn't a sensible character (Halfling clerics of the Goddess of the Hearth aren't exactly mighty warriors), but it was still fun to play.
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AthenorBattle Hardened OptimistThe Skies of HiigaraRegistered Userregular
edited September 2017
Speaking of Genesys, FFG released an article going over how character generation will work (and be.. well.. generic).
First off, YAY! The destiny points are becoming "Story" points, so they are keeping that system. I'm so happy to hear that, as I fell in love with it back in the 7th Sea 1E days.
To build a character, you start with archtype or species (I assume they take the same slot depending on setting). Three basic ones are laborer, intellectual and aristocrat, with the average human being the jack of all trades type.
Next is careers, either role-based or setting based. Given that the SWRPG system allows for multiple careers, this is good.
Finally is spending XP, then calculating final values.
I'm worked blocked so I can't see it, are they keeping the skill trees or doing something different?
Sounds like it.
Step 4: Investing Experience Points
Every character starts with a budget of experience points, and this is where you’re going to get the chance to spend them. This is where you get to flesh your character out, mechanically.
Experience can be spent to improve your character’s characteristics, buy ranks in skills, and purchase talents. We’ll talk more about some of the talents and skills you can find in Genesys later.
AthenorBattle Hardened OptimistThe Skies of HiigaraRegistered Userregular
edited September 2017
Ugh. That annoying feeling of being fairly sure youcown a book, but not being able to find it. In this case, Rigger 5 for Shadowrun.
Edit: I can find evidence I once owned it, but I can't find the actual purchase. And there is a slim chance I loaned it to a friend who has now moved cross country.
Edit 2: Found it! Stupid thing was under a similarly sized piece of paper.
Thanks to the recent Humble Bundle, my group has decided to play WFRP. I can now pack up all of the prep I did for Rogue Trader and run Ashes of Middenheim instead. It's a bit of a relief to not have to rely on my own imagination for a while.
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StragintDo Not GiftAlways DeclinesRegistered Userregular
Is this a good place to ask for a bit of advice on character questionnaires for Dread?
PSN: Reaper_Stragint, Steam: DoublePitstoChesty
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
So I understand the general idea of what I want to accomplish with the questionnaire and my group. At least I think I do. I am trying to give each person a loose role to work with that they can flesh out with the questions and make their own.
The trouble I am running into is asking questions that gives interactions with the other player characters. I don't really know how to go about asking them. The rulebook just doesn't seem to really give me what I want as far as creating the interactions. The idea is that all they characters are already friends that have gotten trapped into a bad situation.
PSN: Reaper_Stragint, Steam: DoublePitstoChesty
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
So I understand the general idea of what I want to accomplish with the questionnaire and my group. At least I think I do. I am trying to give each person a loose role to work with that they can flesh out with the questions and make their own.
The trouble I am running into is asking questions that gives interactions with the other player characters. I don't really know how to go about asking them. The rulebook just doesn't seem to really give me what I want as far as creating the interactions. The idea is that all they characters are already friends that have gotten trapped into a bad situation.
Instead of looking at Dread questionnaires, I might consider looking at Powered by the Apocalypse games. Those tend to be loaded with questions that imply previous relationships, character interactions, and the like, and seem like they'd be a natural fit for a Dread questionnaire.
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Is it too on the nose to ask for a fear? I feel like I developed at least one question to create this but I don't know which is a better way to go. I feel like asking what the character fears is not a good way to go and could end up being entirely irrelevant to what is happening.
So I understand the general idea of what I want to accomplish with the questionnaire and my group. At least I think I do. I am trying to give each person a loose role to work with that they can flesh out with the questions and make their own.
The trouble I am running into is asking questions that gives interactions with the other player characters. I don't really know how to go about asking them. The rulebook just doesn't seem to really give me what I want as far as creating the interactions. The idea is that all they characters are already friends that have gotten trapped into a bad situation.
Instead of looking at Dread questionnaires, I might consider looking at Powered by the Apocalypse games. Those tend to be loaded with questions that imply previous relationships, character interactions, and the like, and seem like they'd be a natural fit for a Dread questionnaire.
I will look into Powered by the Apocalypse. Am I looking for character sheets or something?
PSN: Reaper_Stragint, Steam: DoublePitstoChesty
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Is it too on the nose to ask for a fear? I feel like I developed at least one question to create this but I don't know which is a better way to go. I feel like asking what the character fears is not a good way to go and could end up being entirely irrelevant to what is happening.
So I understand the general idea of what I want to accomplish with the questionnaire and my group. At least I think I do. I am trying to give each person a loose role to work with that they can flesh out with the questions and make their own.
The trouble I am running into is asking questions that gives interactions with the other player characters. I don't really know how to go about asking them. The rulebook just doesn't seem to really give me what I want as far as creating the interactions. The idea is that all they characters are already friends that have gotten trapped into a bad situation.
Instead of looking at Dread questionnaires, I might consider looking at Powered by the Apocalypse games. Those tend to be loaded with questions that imply previous relationships, character interactions, and the like, and seem like they'd be a natural fit for a Dread questionnaire.
I will look into Powered by the Apocalypse. Am I looking for character sheets or something?
When you're looking at the different classes people can choose from, they each have a list of ways that they have already interacted with the other players in the group. I used the options out of Dungeon World for a one-shot just to set the tone between the party. It has stuff like "This person helped you out" or "You watched this person steal." The players get to pick what they know about each other and go from there. Here's an example. http://www.dungeonworldsrd.com/classes/bard/#Bonds
Definitely agree with @Dex Dynamo on those, using the bonds between people really worked well in my one experience trying it out.
It is definitely not too on the nose to ask about a character's phobias in Dread, but try couching it in a deeper question, like: what is your character afraid of and what happened to cause that phobia?
Remember that questions for a dread questionnaire can be as open or leading as you want. You can also name other characters in the questions, or ask for other character's names.
"Why were you discharged from the academy?"
"What is it that you hope [other character] never finds out about?"
The key to Dread questions is to put a just enough detail into the question to get the player thinking about it, but not enough that it limits their response space. And if necessary, remind the players that you can answer a question like "Why did you kill your best friend?" with an answer like "I didn't, but everyone thinks I did because I was framed"
Trying to seed a question or two that ties each character to another character (or several other characters) is good too as it will help the players think about their character's relationships with each other in a way that will help their interactions during play feel like an extension of the backgrounds. Also it helps create friendships and rivalries.
For anybody who got starfinder but is having problems with the binding on their book Paizo just put up a new blog post about the issues some people are seeing and how to report the issue and start the replacement process.
Oh hehe blog post is on their main page at paizo.com.
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KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
edited September 2017
Hey roleplay thread. Been a bit. Game's been great but on hiatus due to uni, but I got a regular friday one with self contained sessions that I've been enjoying. Sorry if I was a nuisance the last few times I posted.
With FFG removing the entire page, Dark Heresy 2nd Edition is pretty much dead. It was already dead since FFG and GW parted ways, plus, in terms of big moneys, who needs 40k when you've got Star Wars?
It makes me really sad. I've put a lot of time into this edition. This was the edition where I found my groove as a GM. This was the edition where I basically outlined a gigantic overarching story with a world that all my groups, even if one or more of us drifted apart or just had to stop, would affect. This was the first game I completed a campaign in. This was the first one I wrote every adventure except for the tutorial adventure from the end of the book which I springboarded off of. This was the first one I felt I fully understood the system in.
I have the core rulebook and splat books, not the modules but I homebrew most of my stories abyway. Looking on Amazon, it looks to be $158 just for the core rule book. It feels weird to own these, like they're relics or something.
I know Wrath and Glory is on the horizon. I know I could just convert my story and characters and players' characters to it. I have reservation about that D6 system, but I also hated the idea of "Influence". It will probably be fine. I know DH2 was polarizing in some places.
I think I just came to post to put my feelings into words. I still have the game, I can still play it, and I did print those supplementary character materials (they were free) before the website went away; but the whole thing makes me sad. Not angry, just sad. Y'all ever had something like this happen to one of your favorite games?
How many books actually came out for Dark Heresy 2nd Ed?
Enemies Without, Enemies Within, Enemies Beyond, the Game Master's kit, and like four modules.
The four core splats make it a complete game, but I would have preferred they kept the e-reader version and the character creation supplement stuff around.
Edit: DarkPrimus, about that seed stuff, you're super right. I actually have a problem with my stalled game where they're motivated enough to go on the adventures they go on but none of them have personal motivation to their characters and two of the three feel a little passive. I mean they all were basically pressed to serving their inquisitor from the outset of the adventure, but they are getting paid and were given five years leave after the last adventure took a toll on them.
I am trying to spice that up though. For my frontier world bounty hunter I introduced a Calamity Jane-esque character to play him off of, for my tech priest I'm giving him more of a personal stake to the stuff we're doing because he got cursed by a Slaaneshi temptress cult leader, and I'm about to introduce for the arbitrator character someone from his past. The problem is none of these guys really have a strong narrative background to their characters. I basically had to make up for the arbitrator character one and can't really come up with good ones for the other two.
I'm also making an active recurring flamboyant [edit: Not flamboyant, loud and showmany (Literally called "The Showman")] but cowardly villain that will be an constant antagonist in their future adventures and will be hunting them. Which will be a change from rhe first adventure where they were basically chasing the guy the entire time and never got to interact with him.
Hmm... what do you guys think would be a good system to play Life is Strange / Night in the Woods / Stranger Things / Twilight Zone / IT / Oxenfree / normal-ish folk hang out and occasionally face existential horror together?
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KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
edited September 2017
Hunter the Vigil as one of the more mundane groups.
You could also do Call of Cthulhu but that's usually based around the late 1800s and the early 1900s, your list of works feels more 80s-today, and I think Hunter works better with that.
Hmm... what do you guys think would be a good system to play Life is Strange / Night in the Woods / Stranger Things / Twilight Zone / IT / Oxenfree / normal-ish folk hang out and occasionally face existential horror together?
Unknown Armies is sort of set up for this. Same with Urban Shadows. If you can read Swedish, Kult is very good for this (and hey maybe now it will get an English translation).
You absolutely could run this in a GUMSHOE game; Fear Itself is sort of this with Cthulhu gods/monsters - Bubblegumshoe IS this. Night's Black Agents is set up to emulate highly capable superspies, professional conspiracy theorists, and other high achievers but you could modify it to run with "regular" people who have some investigative skill.
As usual you could run this in any toolbox system. If you have a core mechanic you like that might be the way to go.
Hmm... what do you guys think would be a good system to play Life is Strange / Night in the Woods / Stranger Things / Twilight Zone / IT / Oxenfree / normal-ish folk hang out and occasionally face existential horror together?
Tales from the Loop, FFG's End of the World line, or a homebrew PbtA game. TftL fits it pretty much to a T though.
Thanks for the swift replies. I'll look them all up.
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
If you want to lean on the investigative angle I'd go with GUMSHOE over Tales From the Loop. TFtL is a really pretty book but mechanically it's kind of meh.
If you want to lean on the investigative angle I'd go with GUMSHOE over Tales From the Loop. TFtL is a really pretty book but mechanically it's kind of meh.
I'd say Tales from the Loop is mechanically thighter than the other translated Fria Ligan game I know, Coriolis. However it seems that Mutant Year Zero might be the best of the bunch ? I need to read it.
The Coriolis campaign I'm in isn't really working for many reasons. I don't think the campaign isn't working strictly because of the system, but it sure isn't helping. With this group we previously played Trail of Chtulhu (so a GUMSHOE system) and it worked really well.
If you want to lean on the investigative angle I'd go with GUMSHOE over Tales From the Loop. TFtL is a really pretty book but mechanically it's kind of meh.
Hard disagree. I've been underwhelmed every time I've played GUMSHOE games. We had a ton of fun playing playing TftL.
Hmm... what do you guys think would be a good system to play Life is Strange / Night in the Woods / Stranger Things / Twilight Zone / IT / Oxenfree / normal-ish folk hang out and occasionally face existential horror together?
@Endless_Serpents Tales from the Loop is pretty heavily influenced by Stranger Things although I think it leans more to the sci-fi than horror side of things, if that matters. The Chronicles of Darkness is a good horror toolkit system and the Innocents supplement is specifically about playing and writing adventures centered on children and teens.
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And yes I was thinking of the four chaos gods. They're the only ones I ever hear about so I thought that was all of them.
I think I played this one a bit waaaaaay back when I was first branching out from D&D.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Nope, it's the superior 2nd edition. (I love Genesys, just... not for Warhammer)
I don't know what you're talking about.
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Love me the first edition.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/9/15/craft-your-character/
First off, YAY! The destiny points are becoming "Story" points, so they are keeping that system. I'm so happy to hear that, as I fell in love with it back in the 7th Sea 1E days.
To build a character, you start with archtype or species (I assume they take the same slot depending on setting). Three basic ones are laborer, intellectual and aristocrat, with the average human being the jack of all trades type.
Next is careers, either role-based or setting based. Given that the SWRPG system allows for multiple careers, this is good.
Finally is spending XP, then calculating final values.
So. Pretty much SWRPG, but generic. Which fits.
I'm absolutely in love with the game's art style.
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Sounds like it.
Apparently one of the most asked questions at GenCon was whether or not they had Genesys for sale.
Or at least I asked it. And about the WEG SW 30th anniversary. >.>
Edit: I can find evidence I once owned it, but I can't find the actual purchase. And there is a slim chance I loaned it to a friend who has now moved cross country.
Edit 2: Found it! Stupid thing was under a similarly sized piece of paper.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
So I understand the general idea of what I want to accomplish with the questionnaire and my group. At least I think I do. I am trying to give each person a loose role to work with that they can flesh out with the questions and make their own.
The trouble I am running into is asking questions that gives interactions with the other player characters. I don't really know how to go about asking them. The rulebook just doesn't seem to really give me what I want as far as creating the interactions. The idea is that all they characters are already friends that have gotten trapped into a bad situation.
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
Instead of looking at Dread questionnaires, I might consider looking at Powered by the Apocalypse games. Those tend to be loaded with questions that imply previous relationships, character interactions, and the like, and seem like they'd be a natural fit for a Dread questionnaire.
I will look into Powered by the Apocalypse. Am I looking for character sheets or something?
What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
When you're looking at the different classes people can choose from, they each have a list of ways that they have already interacted with the other players in the group. I used the options out of Dungeon World for a one-shot just to set the tone between the party. It has stuff like "This person helped you out" or "You watched this person steal." The players get to pick what they know about each other and go from there. Here's an example. http://www.dungeonworldsrd.com/classes/bard/#Bonds
Definitely agree with @Dex Dynamo on those, using the bonds between people really worked well in my one experience trying it out.
"Why were you discharged from the academy?"
"What is it that you hope [other character] never finds out about?"
The key to Dread questions is to put a just enough detail into the question to get the player thinking about it, but not enough that it limits their response space. And if necessary, remind the players that you can answer a question like "Why did you kill your best friend?" with an answer like "I didn't, but everyone thinks I did because I was framed"
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What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable? ~ Mario Novak
I never fear death or dyin', I only fear never trying.
With FFG removing the entire page, Dark Heresy 2nd Edition is pretty much dead. It was already dead since FFG and GW parted ways, plus, in terms of big moneys, who needs 40k when you've got Star Wars?
It makes me really sad. I've put a lot of time into this edition. This was the edition where I found my groove as a GM. This was the edition where I basically outlined a gigantic overarching story with a world that all my groups, even if one or more of us drifted apart or just had to stop, would affect. This was the first game I completed a campaign in. This was the first one I wrote every adventure except for the tutorial adventure from the end of the book which I springboarded off of. This was the first one I felt I fully understood the system in.
I have the core rulebook and splat books, not the modules but I homebrew most of my stories abyway. Looking on Amazon, it looks to be $158 just for the core rule book. It feels weird to own these, like they're relics or something.
I know Wrath and Glory is on the horizon. I know I could just convert my story and characters and players' characters to it. I have reservation about that D6 system, but I also hated the idea of "Influence". It will probably be fine. I know DH2 was polarizing in some places.
I think I just came to post to put my feelings into words. I still have the game, I can still play it, and I did print those supplementary character materials (they were free) before the website went away; but the whole thing makes me sad. Not angry, just sad. Y'all ever had something like this happen to one of your favorite games?
Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
The four core splats make it a complete game, but I would have preferred they kept the e-reader version and the character creation supplement stuff around.
Edit: DarkPrimus, about that seed stuff, you're super right. I actually have a problem with my stalled game where they're motivated enough to go on the adventures they go on but none of them have personal motivation to their characters and two of the three feel a little passive. I mean they all were basically pressed to serving their inquisitor from the outset of the adventure, but they are getting paid and were given five years leave after the last adventure took a toll on them.
I am trying to spice that up though. For my frontier world bounty hunter I introduced a Calamity Jane-esque character to play him off of, for my tech priest I'm giving him more of a personal stake to the stuff we're doing because he got cursed by a Slaaneshi temptress cult leader, and I'm about to introduce for the arbitrator character someone from his past. The problem is none of these guys really have a strong narrative background to their characters. I basically had to make up for the arbitrator character one and can't really come up with good ones for the other two.
I'm also making an active recurring flamboyant [edit: Not flamboyant, loud and showmany (Literally called "The Showman")] but cowardly villain that will be an constant antagonist in their future adventures and will be hunting them. Which will be a change from rhe first adventure where they were basically chasing the guy the entire time and never got to interact with him.
You could also do Call of Cthulhu but that's usually based around the late 1800s and the early 1900s, your list of works feels more 80s-today, and I think Hunter works better with that.
You absolutely could run this in a GUMSHOE game; Fear Itself is sort of this with Cthulhu gods/monsters - Bubblegumshoe IS this. Night's Black Agents is set up to emulate highly capable superspies, professional conspiracy theorists, and other high achievers but you could modify it to run with "regular" people who have some investigative skill.
As usual you could run this in any toolbox system. If you have a core mechanic you like that might be the way to go.
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I'd say Tales from the Loop is mechanically thighter than the other translated Fria Ligan game I know, Coriolis. However it seems that Mutant Year Zero might be the best of the bunch ? I need to read it.
The Coriolis campaign I'm in isn't really working for many reasons. I don't think the campaign isn't working strictly because of the system, but it sure isn't helping. With this group we previously played Trail of Chtulhu (so a GUMSHOE system) and it worked really well.
Hard disagree. I've been underwhelmed every time I've played GUMSHOE games. We had a ton of fun playing playing TftL.
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@Endless_Serpents Tales from the Loop is pretty heavily influenced by Stranger Things although I think it leans more to the sci-fi than horror side of things, if that matters. The Chronicles of Darkness is a good horror toolkit system and the Innocents supplement is specifically about playing and writing adventures centered on children and teens.