Winnu: up to 11 votes
L1z1x: up to 9 votes
Creuss: up to 12 votes
Jol-Nar: up to 13 votes; cannot use just 1 vote
Arborec: up to 14 votes
Letnev: up to 8 votes; Speaker
@Elvenshae: Since this is an "Elect Planet" vote, here's where I can offer five of my votes if you want to go for the bonus on Sakulag.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
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Who still has a Support for the Throne card to trade? Mine is up for grabs
And @MrBlarney your racial promissory card is currently my best offer for mine. So I'm happy to take that.
Otherwise it really looks like Aryz could use terraforming. I'll offer 1 commodity/trade good per five votes from anybody to help support this glorious goal. Up to a total of 3 as that's all I've got right now.
Mojo_Jojo on
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BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
Do planets used in a vote refresh before we move to the next Tactical phase?
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
I propose a three-way deal. I'll pass my 5 votes from Blarney to you, Mojo, to vote for Aryz. You pay him normally for them - and if he wants, he can toss in more votes for an additional payment from you. Blarney, you'd get paid twice for the same votes - once from me, once from Mojo - and Mojo, you won't need to contend against my votes for, e.g., Sakulag, making Aryz much more likely to happen.
Also, also, you guys aren't actually neighbors yet, so you can't exchange anything with each other, but I sit between the two of you, and can freely trade with both.
At the same time, I'd really like your Research agreement again. So I'll toss in an extra commodity or trade good for you next time I get some - essentially, you'd get 5 votes and no competition against me for the price of your promissory note. In addition, I'll throw in my Cease Fire until I pay you, just like last time.
Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
We can freely trade with non neighbours on this phase
I'm not sure if understand your proposed deals @Elvenshae can you explicitly spell then out for me?
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
I have no hazardous planets, and so am not all that invested in the outcome of this agenda. But I do have the most votes (and I vote 2nd-to-last), and so I am quite invested in any bribes that anyone would like to pay me for my votes.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
I have no hazardous planets, and so am not all that invested in the outcome of this agenda. But I do have the most votes (and I vote 2nd-to-last), and so I am quite invested in any bribes that anyone would like to pay me for my votes.
I'll take ten off your hands for two trade goods
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I'm nominally interested in voting for Sakulag to obtain the bonus for myself, and I've already got a lock on 5 of @MrBlarney's votes from a previous transaction.
I am offering:
I will not vote for Sakulag
I will instruct MrBlarney to instead sells those votes to you for 1 commodity (and can sell you more if he wants)
I will pay you an additional 1 commodity or trade good when I next get one to hand over (net cost of MrBlarney's votes: 0)
In return:
You give me your Research Agreement promissory note
I give you my Cease Fire promissory note until I pay you back
So, you get 5 votes and eliminate a competitor in this round of voting at the cost of your Research Agreement. MrBlarney gets paid twice for his 5 votes (once from me, earlier, once from you).
Or, alternatively, @Mojo_Jojo, I could offer you my racial promissory note instead of the commodity / trade good, which would let you expand some wormhole networks to somewhere else on your western side, thereby allowing me to more easily pass by you. It's less useful immediately, but potentially more FUN (TM) in the long-run.
So, you want 12 votes, 3 commodities (that are already spoken for; not sure why they're still on my sheet), 4 more commodities later, in exchange for 1 Tech?
That's a bad trade; I can just spend 4 trade goods and a strat token and buy a tech, thanks.
We are now allowed to trade! I would like to exchange your Trade Agreement promissory note for my NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!* per the agreement we made in the middle of last turn.
If you'd like to adjust our deal, and expand it, let me know.
Since I get 2nd-to-last vote, if Sakulag is in a position to win the vote, I'll give you all my votes (or at least enough to ensure Sakulag wins). Fair?
Actually, @Hedgethorn, how about I buy all of your votes this Agenda phase at the more-or-less-5-per-commodity price that @Mojo_Jojo was offering and let you keep your Trade Agreement (worth 3 commodities, and you have 14 votes)?
Also, I promise not to spend them to vote to screw you over, personally, in the second voting phase if you sell them to me.
Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
@Elvenshae: You could sub in hedgethorn's trade card to make up the short fall of the commodities (we'd need to do a two stage trade across this and the second voting round which would rely on a non binding agreement).
Otherwise MrBlarney still has made me the best offer
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Your price for a single technology is far, far too high - especially given that you're willing to sell it to someone else for a command token, the going rate for which is 3 influence.
@Elvenshae: Hmm, so it would seem that the net result is that you'll still want my votes for this agenda? Otherwise, I'll bundle some of them up with a transaction to Mojo_Jojo.
Yes, I will definitely keep the 5 I purchased, and will likely ask you to vote for Sakulag. That leaves you with 4 remaining. How about holding on to the until the second round of voting, since Mojo's only paying 1 commodity for 5 votes? I might be able to combo them with @Hedgethorn's, assuming he lets me buy his, to do something interesting for us all.
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Ah!
Time for me to exhaust some more planets in the other game then.
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Steam: Korvalain
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Should leave me with two in tactics and three in strategy
Agenda Phase
current map
First Agenda
Terraforming Initiative (Law)-
Elect a hazardous planet.
Attach this card to the elected planet. The resource and influence values of that planet are increased by 1.
Voting begins with player to the left of speaker:
Preda
MrBlarney
Elvenshae
Mojo
Hedgethorn
Brody **Speaker**
L1z1x: up to 9 votes
Creuss: up to 12 votes
Jol-Nar: up to 13 votes; cannot use just 1 vote
Arborec: up to 14 votes
Letnev: up to 8 votes; Speaker
@Elvenshae: Since this is an "Elect Planet" vote, here's where I can offer five of my votes if you want to go for the bonus on Sakulag.
And @MrBlarney your racial promissory card is currently my best offer for mine. So I'm happy to take that.
Otherwise it really looks like Aryz could use terraforming. I'll offer 1 commodity/trade good per five votes from anybody to help support this glorious goal. Up to a total of 3 as that's all I've got right now.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Yes. They do not refresh for the second vote though.
But remember that we'll be voting on two agendas.
I propose a three-way deal. I'll pass my 5 votes from Blarney to you, Mojo, to vote for Aryz. You pay him normally for them - and if he wants, he can toss in more votes for an additional payment from you. Blarney, you'd get paid twice for the same votes - once from me, once from Mojo - and Mojo, you won't need to contend against my votes for, e.g., Sakulag, making Aryz much more likely to happen.
Also, also, you guys aren't actually neighbors yet, so you can't exchange anything with each other, but I sit between the two of you, and can freely trade with both.
At the same time, I'd really like your Research agreement again. So I'll toss in an extra commodity or trade good for you next time I get some - essentially, you'd get 5 votes and no competition against me for the price of your promissory note. In addition, I'll throw in my Cease Fire until I pay you, just like last time.
Thoughts?
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
I'm not sure if understand your proposed deals @Elvenshae can you explicitly spell then out for me?
I'll take ten off your hands for two trade goods
Ah. Of course that rule is under "Transaction."
Sure, @Mojo_Jojo!
I'm nominally interested in voting for Sakulag to obtain the bonus for myself, and I've already got a lock on 5 of @MrBlarney's votes from a previous transaction.
I am offering:
I will not vote for Sakulag
I will instruct MrBlarney to instead sells those votes to you for 1 commodity (and can sell you more if he wants)
I will pay you an additional 1 commodity or trade good when I next get one to hand over (net cost of MrBlarney's votes: 0)
In return:
You give me your Research Agreement promissory note
I give you my Cease Fire promissory note until I pay you back
So, you get 5 votes and eliminate a competitor in this round of voting at the cost of your Research Agreement. MrBlarney gets paid twice for his 5 votes (once from me, earlier, once from you).
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Or, alternatively, @Mojo_Jojo, I could offer you my racial promissory note instead of the commodity / trade good, which would let you expand some wormhole networks to somewhere else on your western side, thereby allowing me to more easily pass by you. It's less useful immediately, but potentially more FUN (TM) in the long-run.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
How would you be handing me a VP? And make me an offer for what you'd need for this to happen.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
How about
Vote for Abyyz now, give your three commodities and your trade agreement promissory card and I'll give you my racial card
That's a bad trade; I can just spend 4 trade goods and a strat token and buy a tech, thanks.
Soyez raisonnable!
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
We are now allowed to trade! I would like to exchange your Trade Agreement promissory note for my NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!* per the agreement we made in the middle of last turn.
If you'd like to adjust our deal, and expand it, let me know.
* Actually, for services already rendered but it sounds funnier this way.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Well, then - would you spend all your votes on Sakulag in exchange?
@MrBody
Thanks!
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Since I get 2nd-to-last vote, if Sakulag is in a position to win the vote, I'll give you all my votes (or at least enough to ensure Sakulag wins). Fair?
Any changes in your position, to remove me as an opponent on this vote?
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Also, I promise not to spend them to vote to screw you over, personally, in the second voting phase if you sell them to me.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Otherwise MrBlarney still has made me the best offer
Your price for a single technology is far, far too high - especially given that you're willing to sell it to someone else for a command token, the going rate for which is 3 influence.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Yes, I will definitely keep the 5 I purchased, and will likely ask you to vote for Sakulag. That leaves you with 4 remaining. How about holding on to the until the second round of voting, since Mojo's only paying 1 commodity for 5 votes? I might be able to combo them with @Hedgethorn's, assuming he lets me buy his, to do something interesting for us all.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
Give Elvenshae my Trade Agreement promissory note, in exchange for services previously rendered.
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]
He hasn't been on for a couple days; hope everything's okay!
Steam: Elvenshae // PSN: Elvenshae // WotC: Elvenshae
Wilds of Aladrion: [https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/43159014/#Comment_43159014]Ellandryn[/url]