Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
So the new open world Warframe update, Plains of Eidolon, dropped a couple days ago and holy fuck is it ever cool. I probably spent 12+ hours playing it yesterday.
So the new open world Warframe update, Plains of Eidolon, dropped a couple days ago and holy fuck is it ever cool. I probably spent 12+ hours playing it yesterday.
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
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The alternative is that the game doesn't get made because publishers are risk averse
I mean Kickstarter is by no means a perfect solution, but it very much is a "put your money where your mouth is" thing in terms of "games that should get made"
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Which is why kickstarter is a bad system
It's a bad system because it allows people to fund games that publishers never would? There are exactly two options for this game: 1) the people who say "man I want this game to be made" actually put down money to get it made or 2) the game never comes out.
I would say it's a bad system for, "prove to a publisher your game has the metrics, so they can actually fund the development."
To a certain extent there are those using the platform as marketing for AA releases.
Huge respect for the indie devs that use the system to make games that weren't going to be made.
So the new open world Warframe update, Plains of Eidolon, dropped a couple days ago and holy fuck is it ever cool. I probably spent 12+ hours playing it yesterday.
What did it add?
It added a new huge, open map, the titular Plains of Eidolon (I believe it's 3km x 3km), a new town with various vendors selling stuff to fish and mine with that also buy minerals and fish you've gathered, new custom-built melee weapons which you can also name where you choose the grip, striker, and counter-weight, all of which affect what type of weapon it is and what sort of stats it has, a completely reworked focus system, more operator customization to make them more powerful in combat, a new frame with associated quest, new weapons, and a bunch of other stuff.
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
A group of Indigenous female developers in Hamilton, Ont., are putting their own cultural spin on the usually male-dominated video game industry.
Purity & Decay is a futuristic detective video game being developed by Achimostawinan, a company of five people — four of whom are Indigenous.
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The game is set in North America of 2262, where a class system divides people both metaphorically and physically and the ruling class lives in floating cities. The protagonist, private eye Myeengun Hill, is sought out by a woman to help find answers about her sister's murder.
Wait wait wait, so you're telling me that the crazy whackadoo cyborg warmonsters of War Frame now stand around ponds with fishing rods, acquiring fish
I literally just spent like 30 minutes doing exactly that. And afterwards I was exploring some caves and mining ores and stuff. I almost have enough materials to fully craft one of the custom melee weapons! I don't know if it'll be any good, but I'm going to find out in the next day or two once I get it finished up.
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Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
Do you have any actual data to back up that statistic?
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
Do you have any actual data to back up that statistic?
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
Do you have any actual data to back up that statistic?
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
Do you have any actual data to back up that statistic?
Yeah, my backer history.
You know that isn't good data right
It's good data for me and since I was stating my opinion on whether I would back video games ever again I think that works out pretty great!
Hopefully enough of the people who are saying this put their money where their mouth is and it will.
I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
Do you have any actual data to back up that statistic?
Real data - Kickstarter posting an independent study by University of Pennsylvania researchers.
9% of projects fail to deliver rewards.
Of note is at the bottom they survey backers of projects on if they consider a project a failure. Gaming has one of the highest rates at the broad definition of failure (aka a single person says the project fails), a fairly average rate where half of backers agreed the project failed, and one of the lowest where all backers agreed it failed. It kind of speaks to the divisive attitude of gamers in general.
Data or no data, there have been some fairly high profile Kickstarter game snafus and I certainly don't begrudge anyone deciding it's too much of a risk to back one
No matter the raw percentage of failures, expecting people to back games after theyve thrown away money on several different kickstarters and seen no returns, or bad returns, is super unfair to the consumer
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I'll buy it when it's published but I'll never back another video game on Kickstarter.
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And my point is if everyone who is saying they want this game takes that stance, the game will never happen. This is an example of a game that will only happen if the people who say they want it are willing to put in.
You can't spell Ignocxt without IGN.
What did it add?
Which is why kickstarter is a bad system
I mean Kickstarter is by no means a perfect solution, but it very much is a "put your money where your mouth is" thing in terms of "games that should get made"
It's a bad system because it allows people to fund games that publishers never would? There are exactly two options for this game: 1) the people who say "man I want this game to be made" actually put down money to get it made or 2) the game never comes out.
Asking customers to put money down on something that might never happen is not a system I agree with, at all
something that would show publishers "hey people really do want this" would be much preferable
To a certain extent there are those using the platform as marketing for AA releases.
Huge respect for the indie devs that use the system to make games that weren't going to be made.
It added a new huge, open map, the titular Plains of Eidolon (I believe it's 3km x 3km), a new town with various vendors selling stuff to fish and mine with that also buy minerals and fish you've gathered, new custom-built melee weapons which you can also name where you choose the grip, striker, and counter-weight, all of which affect what type of weapon it is and what sort of stats it has, a completely reworked focus system, more operator customization to make them more powerful in combat, a new frame with associated quest, new weapons, and a bunch of other stuff.
Here's a quick trailer that the devs posted last week:
and here's a link to their forums with a changelog and better explanation of what all is in this update.
Yeah I understood you the first time thanks. And my point is giving money to get a video game made and 95% of the time having them fail to make it is crazy pants.
'Indigenous cybernoir': Video game designers crafting futuristic detective story
I literally just spent like 30 minutes doing exactly that. And afterwards I was exploring some caves and mining ores and stuff. I almost have enough materials to fully craft one of the custom melee weapons! I don't know if it'll be any good, but I'm going to find out in the next day or two once I get it finished up.
Do you have any actual data to back up that statistic?
Well, not fishing rods. It's spearfishing.
Time to boot warframe back up.
@whippy I can't believe we didn't think of this
Yeah, my backer history.
Citation, please?
You know that isn't good data right
Apparently this was a good tweet, but it now appears to be gone.
Re: Kickstarter games I would back: Capy Games' Below
Please, Capy, I'll do anything!
It's good data for me and since I was stating my opinion on whether I would back video games ever again I think that works out pretty great!
https://www.kickstarter.com/fulfillment
Real data - Kickstarter posting an independent study by University of Pennsylvania researchers.
9% of projects fail to deliver rewards.
Of note is at the bottom they survey backers of projects on if they consider a project a failure. Gaming has one of the highest rates at the broad definition of failure (aka a single person says the project fails), a fairly average rate where half of backers agreed the project failed, and one of the lowest where all backers agreed it failed. It kind of speaks to the divisive attitude of gamers in general.
How is that not 100%? I've never been on a project, gaming or otherwise, where someone didn't say it failed.
Man I ain’t the University of Pennsylvania!
And with that attitude you never will be
your mother and i something something never so disappointed something else end with sobbing
It'll be great, just as long as you've spent at least USD$10,000 on in-game gubbins.
EDIT: Jesus fucking christ, their website claims they're raised over $161 million dollars.
There are AAA games with smaller budgets than that getting released all the time, why is Star Citizen taking so long?