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[Mafia de Cuba] Don don done. (Agent Victory)

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  • MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Not that I'm not interested in how this disagreement plays out, but just a reminder:

    Before play begins, the Don has the option of hiding between no and five diamonds away from the other players. Then the cigar box is passed around (via PM in this case) until it circles the group and returns to the Don.

    I think the implication was that Egos passed MrT 13 diamonds. Egos revealing this info immediately after jdark revealed village might be evidence that he is a driver and is now pro-don.

    No need to apologize. That's how the jewel thief should play ;)

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    Well, I was pretty sure that jdark wasn't an agent, so it was worth a shot.

    I'll have to ask you to bear with me folks, I've got an exam immediately followed by a concert tomorrow, so I will probably not be on the forums much. Just a heads up.

    After that I should be able to play regularly and cunningly.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    We'll just be listening to the Godfather theme until you get back

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  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    So @jdarksun it's true what they're saying about you?

    You took a henchman token and threw another henchman away?

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    So @jdarksun it's true what they're saying about you?

    You took a henchman token and threw another henchman away?
    Yup. I figured it would make the first few mooks easier to figure out, there'd be less confusion to my role (if I had thrown out an Agent, I could have been an Agent, etc), and the last few would be more likely to take Agent roles rather than diamonds. Seemed like a solid plan, but I've never played before.

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    @Auralynx

    How many drivers and how many agents were in the box when you checked?

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    weekends

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    weekends

    Also snow!

    When I got the box, a Driver and Agent were missing.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
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  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    First from @Gizzy then @Phyphor was there still an agent token when you checked?

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  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Yep

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Yep

    Hey!
    I bet you're the snitch, snitch!

  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Sorry, busy day at work

    There was an agent, yes

  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Sterica wrote: »
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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    @sir fabulous status?

  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    Here.

    I assume, since nobody has said anything, that so far nobody has spotted any contradictions between what people have said and what they saw in the box when they checked?

    (Egos' original assertion that there were 15 diamonds in the box notwithstanding.)

    An open question to everybody. I'll give some time before I move on to the next round of questioning.

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    It's hard to say if i see a contradiction, I'd like a better idea of what Bluecyan, Ringo and Aura all picked, though. I think i have what was taken among them, but not who took what.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Remember, these are all just claims, the only person we know who is a good guy is jdarksun

    jdarksun - 2 Agents
    Egos - ???
    MrTLicious - 2 Agents
    Bluecyan - 2 Agents
    Ringo - ???
    Auralynx - 1 Agent
    Zombie Hero - 1 Agent
    Phyphor - 1 Agent
    Gizzy - ????
    discrider - ?????

    I have a head cold and am on NyQuil, so speculation on my part may be rather loopy?

    But somewhere between MrTLicious and Phyphor is at least one Agent, cause I don't think there enough slots for everybody to want to lie about it. Someone in there is telling the truth

    I think

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    I'm out of cookies now, and that's sad

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Between jdark and myself (not counting myself):
    1 Driver (egos claims this)
    1 Agent (who knows)
    1 Henchmen

    So two jewel thieves.

    I passed a driver, agent and 4 diamonds, but obv have no knowledge of what was missing by the time sir fab got the box back. He should be able to piece that together. IF there were four diamonds still in the box, discrider is a street urchin. I don't think there is another way of getting to four there. I could be wrong on that.

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  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    ZH is prob a thief

    ::nods sagely::

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  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Good old sticky fingers zombie hero

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  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Ew.
    How would he even wash the cat fur off?
    That would feel horrible

  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Gizzy's a driver

    Then Phyphor is an Agent

    Then ZH is a thief?

    Yeah. Sure

    @Sir fabulous get ZH

    Git im good

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    weekends

    Also snow!

    When I got the box, a Driver and Agent were missing.

    I can confirm that this is what i received as well, and Ringo hasn't refuted it.

    It's possible than you received 2 agents and took one, then made this claim and im trying to figure out if the passer(Ringo) would have refuted it.

    If Ringo is a henchman, they would have totally give the boss a heads up about the agent token, as picking an agent is worst case scenario for henchman team. Ringo has been one of the few active players, so i think we can rule out the combination that Ringo is henchman and Aura is Agent.

    If Ringo is a jewel thief, it depends on wincon, but i think the jewel thief with the most jewels wins alongside the agent, so they wouldn't refute here. (Ringo: diamonds, Aura: agent) is a possible solution to this.

    If Ringo himself is the agent... I don't even have the slightest clue here. I don't know how agents are supposed to act. I still think there is an agent among Bluecyan, Ringo, Aura. And i think aura is the least likely of the three to be an agent.

    I stand by my claim of seeing 4 diamonds, 1 agent, 1 driver, and 1 henchman, and i took the last henchman token.

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  • GizzyGizzy i am a cat PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Why do you think a thief wins with the agent? Sounds like misdirection.

    ZH - thief/driver?
    Phyphor - thief/driver?
    Gizzy - henchman
    Discrider - agent

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Gizzy or ZH are lying about that last henchman token

    @Phyphor who is lying?

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  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    @Ringo why are you so confident about Drivers?

    Is there actual logic there or is it all bluster?

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    The egos call was confidence

    Gizzy is mostly bluster

    But it did develop something as we now have two people claiming one henchman spot

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Also, the driver playstyle should be uh..spottable?

    Henchmen want to be helpful and not suspicious
    Agents want to be unhelpful and suspicious
    Thieves want to be unhelpful and not suspicious
    Drivers however can't nail down a playstyle until they figure out what the person in front of them is... They're desperate for that info but can't blow their target's identity. So until they know what's what, they should be helpful and suspicious

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  • PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    ZH is lying
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Why do you think a thief wins with the agent? Sounds like misdirection.

    Thief would explicitly not win, see the OP. The only way to get multiple winners is with a driver or the street urchin (or both)

  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    ZH is lying
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Why do you think a thief wins with the agent? Sounds like misdirection.

    Thief would explicitly not win, see the OP. The only way to get multiple winners is with a driver or the street urchin (or both)

    What am i lying about, specifically? Just the wincon thing or the contents of the box?

    I will admit to being incorrect about the wincons. Good to know that even the jewel thieves have a vested interest in outing the agents.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Okay so it's two against one on the henchman bit. But there are possible reasons the two could be lying, so hrm

    Anyway @Sir fabulous i spotted a contradiction

    Egos claims 13 diamonds, mrt says 10

    If egos is a driver, mrt is lying
    If egos is a jewel thief, mrt is lying

    Only falls apart if bluecyan is not a henchman

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Okay so it's two against one on the henchman bit. But there are possible reasons the two could be lying, so hrm

    Anyway @Sir fabulous i spotted a contradiction

    Egos claims 13 diamonds, mrt says 10

    If egos is a driver, mrt is lying
    If egos is a jewel thief, mrt is lying

    Only falls apart if bluecyan is not a henchman

    If egos is jewel thief where does that put the driver? Wouldn't you have a good idea of whether or not Blue cyan is a henchman?

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    If egos is jewel thief then driver is mrt and lying to save egos

    At least I think so? Please check my assumptions, I am having a rough time with this cold

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  • Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    If egos is jewel thief then driver is mrt and lying to save egos

    At least I think so? Please check my assumptions, I am having a rough time with this cold

    If this is the case you would definitely know whether bluecyan is a henchman.

    Egos is probably not a henchman because they claimed driver, and why would they lie if they were a henchman. If they are telling the truth, then MRT is lying, by that logic, so he is also not a henchmen. Then you would know if blue cyan took henchman by the count of henchmen when you opened the box.

    If Egos is lying, and MRT is driver protecting him, then you still have either: 2 henchman in box, or blue cyan took henchman and there are 1 in the box.

    If you can work out a scenario where either egos or mrt is a henchman i would like to hear it.

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Egos already lied. Not a henchman. So either driver or thief. If driver and playing to jdarksuns win condition, mrt is a lying jewel thief

    If egos is thief and mrt is henchman then bluecyan is driver

    If egos is thief and MrT driver, then bluecyan henchman

    Sir Fab needs to figure out which pick will solidify the other two roles. He's got one more joker so a bad pick is ok, but only if it means he knows for certain where the thief is

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  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Pivot point is MrT

    Know what he is, know the other two

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Remember, these are all just claims, the only person we know who is a good guy is jdarksun

    jdarksun - 2 Agents
    Egos - ???
    MrTLicious - 2 Agents
    Bluecyan - 2 Agents
    Ringo - ???
    Auralynx - 1 Agent
    Zombie Hero - 1 Agent
    Phyphor - 1 Agent
    Gizzy - ????
    discrider - ?????

    There were 2 of everything when I got it, if that needs clarification

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