Wow, this game is amazing. A bit overwhelming, but amazing. I have been meaning to give a try for the past 6 months or so but I never got around to it. Ive been playing it for couple of days now and I am enjoying it quite a bit. Been working my skills up so I could use Propulsion Jamming.
Ive made probably close to 2 mil ISK today just doing missions in high sec space (and selling the loot). I got myself a pretty destroyer (a Coercer) and Ive been working towards a propulsion jamming frigate.
I went ahead and applied to Merch based on the recommendations in this thread.
I cant wait to dip my toes in 0.0 space - seems like it will be fun (and tense!).
I bet that guy that lost the Titan was pissed.
Join Merch and come to 0.0 you'll make 2m in a couple of rat bounties or salvages.
I got in Merch last night. I made it out to 0.0 space, but I dont have any of my ships or equipment with me so I am virtually useless.
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Bah, you have to register for a full account before you can take up any of those offers. Nothing I can really do in Merch space; can't even sell ore.. I think I should have played more in Empire space before joining a corporation.
If you hold onto the ore, refine it, and then head to Empire space with the rest of the goonies to sell crap, you will be OK. It is not uncommon for Goonfleet to head to emipire in mass on occasion. Course that's when us mercs have some fun but still.
I agree with the above though. Find some people to rat with, also pick up salvaging. You can make a shit-ton of cash selling components.
Heh, you guys did last weekend . You were making runs to Kiht and back. I don't know if it was your corp in particular but we killed 14 BSs and some support ships that night. You guys put on a good fight though. It is always a pleasure fighting goonies.
Moral of the story, for the new guys, the mercs to not discriminate between new and old players. We get paid the same either way.
Ummm...no. I have been playing for about two weeks now (my trial period is now over and I have upgraded to a paying account) and am disappointed with the game.
Maybe it's my experience. I got a mentor who was nice enough to give me some scratch to start with. I have trained all of the skills required for basic tackling and all the skills I need to begin salvaging.
I keep reading this thread and hear people say stuff like, "Just come to 0.0 MERCHI space and you'll be fine", and, "Train salvaging and you can make millions of ISK.", or, "Group up with someone ratting and salvage for them." I have tried all of the above and got nothing. I have done no salvaging, because I don't know where to start, I have no ability to rat because my ship isn't powerful enough (although that's understandable), and have not been invited or asked to go on any missions for anything.
I'm now out of ISK and would like to make more, I think this would probably increase my enjoyment of the game. Not that money makes you (or your avatar) happy, but 12,000 ISK isn't enough to do anything. Most of what I have done so far has been to sit in station and wait for skills to train, in the hope that someday I will have enough skills to do something other than stare at the station screen.
This will probably be my last month of this game. I just don't see the fun in it.
Not to detract from the Goonies but you might want to drop out of the corp for a bit and head back to empire. Pick up some missions and have some fun. Most people forget how hard it is at the beginning, especially if you aren't being twinked. Missions are fun to just hop in for an hour or so, or for a full day. Either way , as you progress, the rewards get better and a little bit of a story unravels. Plus if you get in good with a faction, you get a lot of cool bonuses like free ships, player finding, and a lot of isk a swag.
The only reason why I sugestion dropping out of corp is because the Goonies have a bullseye on their heads from various merc corps and you will spend a lot of your time dodging them/us.
You will always be waiting for skills to finish. Don't let that be your focus. Pick a path and go. Specialization is they key. Find a specialization that isn't reliant on anyone else.
Yeah, essentially newbies have 4 options in the deep 0.0:
Tackle
Salvage
Mine
Industrial Hauling
--Tackling is great for roaming gangs, but dont expect the miners or ratters to need a tackler.
--Salvaging is really good money, you just need to find a ratter who doesnt already have someone following them.
--Mining is constant, steady income. The only things that disrupt mining are NPC's spawning, or hostiles in system warping to where you are mining, and you should then warp out as you should ALWAYS BE ALIGNED WHEN MINING.
--Hauling can earn you a bit of money in an industrial, but would have to talk to the industrial people in corp about what they need hauled, and how much they will pay you to haul it. Also the dangers of getting blowed up by roaming enemies.
ALSO: There's no shame in going to empire to mission. Its a really good way to relax and earn a bit of scratch while you train up.
Not to detract from the Goonies but you might want to drop out of the corp for a bit and head back to empire. Pick up some missions and have some fun. Most people forget how hard it is at the beginning, especially if you aren't being twinked. Missions are fun to just hop in for an hour or so, or for a full day. Either way , as you progress, the rewards get better and a little bit of a story unravels. Plus if you get in good with a faction, you get a lot of cool bonuses like free ships, player finding, and a lot of isk a swag.
The only reason why I sugestion dropping out of corp is because the Goonies have a bullseye on their heads from various merc corps and you will spend a lot of your time dodging them/us.
You will always be waiting for skills to finish. Don't let that be your focus. Pick a path and go. Specialization is they key. Find a specialization that isn't reliant on anyone else.
This isn't bad advice.
Having some money start with out in 0.0 is most certainly a good idea.
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Heh, you guys did last weekend . You were making runs to Kiht and back. I don't know if it was your corp in particular but we killed 14 BSs and some support ships that night. You guys put on a good fight though. It is always a pleasure fighting goonies.
Moral of the story, for the new guys, the mercs to not discriminate between new and old players. We get paid the same either way.
I dont think you know what "en masse" means. We'll let you know when a significant number of goons decide to come to empire.
I am fully aware what en masse means. I know that you guys have a billion players/alts. My point is that in order to show your face around empire without being ganked, you need to go in a good sized group. If noobs are running around empire with a Goonie tag then they stand a big chance of getting taken down is all. That group on Sunday was small and looking for a fight. I am sure the noobs who didnt want to fight, didn't make it to Tash. Good for you, it was a fun and honorable fight.
I've thought about giving EVE another shot, because I can't resist the siren song of internet spaceships.
I quit earlier for basically the same reasons phenko is talking about, and I think that were I to come back, my approach would be to play the first couple months extremely casually, doing occaisional mining ops/salvaging when available in 0.0 and missions in empire, and just let money and skills build up slowly. Then get into serious things once I'd given skills some time to build up.
I realize that MerchI and GS try and do a bunch of things to make the starting period fun and easy for newbies, but EVE still needs a much bigger investment of time before the 'real fun' starts than other MMOs do. Even tackling in pvp, I'd often just get killed immediately (or not survive jumpgate lag, in a couple larger groups.) Even if you can get past the PvP aspect (which was tough hard for me to acclimate to), EVE's a tough game to pick up at this point.
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To rat in 0.0 the best strategy is to train for Small Armor Repairer II's and Armor Hardeners. With those up you can generally speed tank Sansha battleship spawns. It takes a while but you net 500k a pop and it's how I funded my first Dominix when I rejoined the game in Providence.
Not to detract from the Goonies but you might want to drop out of the corp for a bit and head back to empire. Pick up some missions and have some fun. Most people forget how hard it is at the beginning, especially if you aren't being twinked. Missions are fun to just hop in for an hour or so, or for a full day. Either way , as you progress, the rewards get better and a little bit of a story unravels. Plus if you get in good with a faction, you get a lot of cool bonuses like free ships, player finding, and a lot of isk a swag.
The only reason why I sugestion dropping out of corp is because the Goonies have a bullseye on their heads from various merc corps and you will spend a lot of your time dodging them/us.
You will always be waiting for skills to finish. Don't let that be your focus. Pick a path and go. Specialization is they key. Find a specialization that isn't reliant on anyone else.
This isn't bad advice.
Having some money start with out in 0.0 is most certainly a good idea.
What? No, this is terrible advice. Mission running is rubbish and the profit from it is a soul-destroying trickle. The free ships are junk, not cool. If you leave merch and go back to empire you WILL leave the game because you will be on your own pissing about with no direction or purpose. I have no idea what your mentor did or who he was but if all he did was give you some cash, that's not mentoring. If you want, I can teach you the basic skills of bottomfeeding in epros in an afternoon. There's a whole infrastructure in merch and goonfleet that let's you profit quickly and easily even from basic tinker activities.
This repo guy is consistently full of shit btw. Mass convoys to and from empire = slow moving juicy target. Our industrial pilots fly at random times with a single scout escort. You dont fight you way to empire, you just sneak through.
Protip: dont listen to advice from our enemies because they are all either stupid or malicious.
You really can't sit back idly. Ask every few minutes in corp chat for people ratting and the like. Hell, when we first got epro I helped run a mining op that lasted nearly two days or so.
We have mentors and such in place so that you can ask, since we have people on nearly 24/7 that are mentors and willing to help. But we're not terribly organised in the 2200 HOURS MANDATORY OP CTA and whatever that other, more stringent corps have. So you really need to speak up and talk with everyone else in the corp and get things going on your own. Also Szech's post, gieving isk is not enough, no nubs have convo'd me as of late, but I make it a point to teach proper ship fitting, scanner use, terminology, tactics, and atleast a couple ways to make isku on their own. I tried eve before I knew about merchi or anything about the game really. I was already unsubbed after paying for a month because it was boring playing on my own and barely being able to afford basic items because hurrr missions. Convo volatile or someone else and we'll see what can be done to set you up.
MRCHI is full of cats. Herding cats is not easy.
On the upside we finally took down the godamn vaga and crusader that's been harassing some of you new guys in epro/azn.
http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/155286
^ I had hoped to see more mrchi on that one, since he came in to save his crusader buddy I had tackled. God ares are so hot now.
Voice would have been nice, but it was late and I was intending to go to bed when aimee formed a fleet. Screaming to my laptop at 2am wouldn't have been appreciated
We'll need to run more ops, but that one was getting better than the usual OH GOD WHAT DO I DO *boom*
Aside from our poor phrasing of wwwww, more people should have warped to the nearby planet then back onto me. Thank god for the goon in the huginn though. When he exploded and that guy that's been roaming around in his Ishtar decided better of it and fucked off. We really need more webs fit and huginns around with all the nano ships flying through our space
Not to detract from the Goonies but you might want to drop out of the corp for a bit and head back to empire. Pick up some missions and have some fun. Most people forget how hard it is at the beginning, especially if you aren't being twinked. Missions are fun to just hop in for an hour or so, or for a full day. Either way , as you progress, the rewards get better and a little bit of a story unravels. Plus if you get in good with a faction, you get a lot of cool bonuses like free ships, player finding, and a lot of isk a swag.
The only reason why I sugestion dropping out of corp is because the Goonies have a bullseye on their heads from various merc corps and you will spend a lot of your time dodging them/us.
You will always be waiting for skills to finish. Don't let that be your focus. Pick a path and go. Specialization is they key. Find a specialization that isn't reliant on anyone else.
This isn't bad advice.
Having some money start with out in 0.0 is most certainly a good idea.
What? No, this is terrible advice. Mission running is rubbish and the profit from it is a soul-destroying trickle. The free ships are junk, not cool. If you leave merch and go back to empire you WILL leave the game because you will be on your own pissing about with no direction or purpose. I have no idea what your mentor did or who he was but if all he did was give you some cash, that's not mentoring. If you want, I can teach you the basic skills of bottomfeeding in epros in an afternoon. There's a whole infrastructure in merch and goonfleet that let's you profit quickly and easily even from basic tinker activities.
This repo guy is consistently full of shit btw. Mass convoys to and from empire = slow moving juicy target. Our industrial pilots fly at random times with a single scout escort. You dont fight you way to empire, you just sneak through.
Protip: dont listen to advice from our enemies because they are all either stupid or malicious.
You sir are an idiot. I am simply offering him additional options because he is obviously not getting the help he needs from his corp mates. If he was, he wouldn't have posted here. This game means many things to different people. If you are brand new to the game and not just a new alt, things will be very difficult in 0.0. Sure corps will give free ships and the like but there is a general lack of purpose. If you are not careful you could just wander aimlessly and achieve nothing. Running missions is a good way to learn the game. I am not saying it should be your entire purpose but can be a distraction while you find what you like in the game.
I suggest instead of bashing me and my options that you spend more time and cultivate relationships with your new corp mates. If you were, they would not be posting issues like this.
For the record, we are not enemies, you are a target for a contract, that is all. Repo has no enemies. I have no bias because once the contract is over, the Goonies will just be another alliance that we fly by to hit our next target.
I have done no salvaging, because I don't know where to start, I have no ability to rat because my ship isn't powerful enough (although that's understandable), and have not been invited or asked to go on any missions for anything.
To actually help with this, firstly let me explain salvaging briefly. Salvaging lets you retrieve items from a dead ships hull. This is different from looting because you're actually taking apart the hull itself to retrieve items you can't get from just looting. This parts are used for making rigs - basically implants for ships - although you don't need to make the rigs to make money from salvaging, you can just sell the salvage.
So, to start salvaging you need to find some wrecks. The easiest way to find some wrecks is to kill some ships, but the ships you are currently capable of killing probably don't drop very good salvage. You'd be lucky if they drop anything more than scrap metal. So the next easiest way to find some wrecks - especially in 0.0 space is to go to a system where other people are ratting and ask if you can salvage their wrecks. Just check if any of our corp mates are in local and ask them - preferably in corp chat if there are non-corp members in local - if you can scoop the salvage from any wrecks they leave behind. They might say no, because some people like to salvage their own wrecks but often they will be happy for you to do it. Just fly from asteroid belt to asteroid belt and any white wrecks you see you can lock, tractor and salvage.
Once you have some salvage, you need to sell it. You can sell it on the market, but there are some corp members who will buy it direct and you can find instructions on how to contract it to them on our corp forums or ask in game.
I've been on hiatus for a while, but I'll try to be on evenings (UK/EVE time) this week, so if I see you in game I am going to demand that you come and salvage while I rat. I will even gang with you so you can get my pathetic gang bonuses and share my bounties. But only because it is Christmas.
Now 'missions'. I presume by missions you mean PvP sorties. These you don't exactly get invited on. We have a channel that you should've been given the details for that deals with forming gangs for operations, just keep an eye on it and if anybody asks for people to x up, drop an x in the channel and you will soon be invited to join the gang.
The other thing to consider is that around E-Pr0 we unfortunately have a lot of pretty poor true-sec. Which means even if you can't fit a T1 cruiser to kill battleships (Sanshas) you can almost certainly fit 1 to kill cruiser and battlecruiser spawns pretty easily, for between 100 - 300k a pop, which is ok money considering the cost of your fit.
The other thing to consider is that around E-Pr0 we unfortunately have a lot of pretty poor true-sec. Which means even if you can't fit a T1 cruiser to kill battleships (Sanshas) you can almost certainly fit 1 to kill cruiser and battlecruiser spawns pretty easily, for between 100 - 300k a pop, which is ok money considering the cost of your fit.
And brilliant money compared to what you'd be earning running missions.
Incidentally, I was wondering if there was a gallente ship that would serve as a good jewratter? I'm thinking perhaps a cruiser that would let you fill the drone bay with enough DPS to kill moderate sized spawns leaving about four high slots free for a couple of tractor beams and salvagers? Even if it couldn't kill battleship spawns but would be a good escort for a BS ratter that could salvage behind him as well as killing off the smaller escort ships for them? I reckon a vexor could probably do the job. You could maybe get the Imucus to work at a push although you'd need good drone skills to maximise the damage from the limited drone space and you could only fit two salvagers (although by compensation you probably wouldn't need tractors as you could just fit an MWD and burn to any wrecks, especially if the BS ratter fitted a tractor or two in their spare slots to pull all the wrecks into one spot for you).
sansha ratting in a vexor is ezmode, the drone damage/hp bonus is awesome
Reading this makes me happy. Hopefully I'll be in a vexor in a week or so. I just wasn't sure about the PvE power of a vex.
I guess I just need to get Drone Interfacing up, and the skills that require it . As I saw someone in chat last night saying how much of a difference it makes.
As for being a newb in 0.0.
I actually spent about 2 weeks up in Empire, just getting used to the game. I did some agent missions and did some mining. And I trained up a bunch of skills. When I got to the point where I was almost bored to tears (which happened last week) I applied to MRCHI and made the trek to E-pr0s.
I even made the 50+ jumps because I wanted to , and didn't really feel like losing all my +2 implants.
The last couple days I've been trying to digest all the information available, and trying to "find myself" in 0.0. I even did a little mining op in e-pr0s last night, just to try and get used to gangs. I just quickly realized I needed my own hauler .
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I've managed to kill <200k rats spawns with my stabber. Not easy, but it can be done. It gets you a little extra cash when there's no salvage to be had.
Hopefully by Sunday I'll be in a Hurricane and able to solo rat.
You, repo fag, read the other thread. Also, ignore everything anybody that says "hey go back to empire" tries to tell you. Empire is for skillbooks, and moving stuff to import/export to/from 0.0.
You know it occurs to me we need to stop telling newbies to salvage and instead encourage them to shoot low level rats with cruisers (and then salvage) since 9/10 I'm tearing up most of the good salvage loot myself when ratting.
You know it occurs to me we need to stop telling newbies to salvage and instead encourage them to shoot low level rats with cruisers (and then salvage) since 9/10 I'm tearing up most of the good salvage loot myself when ratting.
Yeah, it means I won't be wasting time or torpedos on Cruiser spawns either, since newbies ratting in Cruisers are likely to be killing those themselves. Normally I clear them out to make room for better spawns, but if I was ganged with a ratter in a Cruiser I could leave those to him and then call him in to help out with larger spawns as and when necessary (never necessary, but it'd make thing quicker if we were gang ratting anyway, plus I could leave him to scoop the salvage while I went off to find another good spawn).
You know it occurs to me we need to stop telling newbies to salvage and instead encourage them to shoot low level rats with cruisers (and then salvage) since 9/10 I'm tearing up most of the good salvage loot myself when ratting.
This newbie does not have a cruiser yet. I'm puttering around in a Frigate, but will hopefully pick up Cruisers after Christmas. Using the holiday to get Drones V .
But I've been running belts in e-pros, looking for ratters and asking if they're salvaging. Some of them have been nice enough to let me salvage.
Me and a couple others ganged with a cruiser last night though, and the bunch of us shot up some of the easier rats. That was fun .
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I got in Merch last night. I made it out to 0.0 space, but I dont have any of my ships or equipment with me so I am virtually useless.
From what folks have said, you can just ask for a frigate and will be given one. Then just ask to tag along ratting, and earn isk.
A frigate with a Webber is not useless.
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I have been playing since beta and I still do not know everything there is to know.
In any case, they are giving away free, fully fitted frigates though
I agree with the above though. Find some people to rat with, also pick up salvaging. You can make a shit-ton of cash selling components.
Moral of the story, for the new guys, the mercs to not discriminate between new and old players. We get paid the same either way.
Mech guys are awesome. Never afraid to fight.
Maybe it's my experience. I got a mentor who was nice enough to give me some scratch to start with. I have trained all of the skills required for basic tackling and all the skills I need to begin salvaging.
I keep reading this thread and hear people say stuff like, "Just come to 0.0 MERCHI space and you'll be fine", and, "Train salvaging and you can make millions of ISK.", or, "Group up with someone ratting and salvage for them." I have tried all of the above and got nothing. I have done no salvaging, because I don't know where to start, I have no ability to rat because my ship isn't powerful enough (although that's understandable), and have not been invited or asked to go on any missions for anything.
I'm now out of ISK and would like to make more, I think this would probably increase my enjoyment of the game. Not that money makes you (or your avatar) happy, but 12,000 ISK isn't enough to do anything. Most of what I have done so far has been to sit in station and wait for skills to train, in the hope that someday I will have enough skills to do something other than stare at the station screen.
This will probably be my last month of this game. I just don't see the fun in it.
The only reason why I sugestion dropping out of corp is because the Goonies have a bullseye on their heads from various merc corps and you will spend a lot of your time dodging them/us.
You will always be waiting for skills to finish. Don't let that be your focus. Pick a path and go. Specialization is they key. Find a specialization that isn't reliant on anyone else.
Tackle
Salvage
Mine
Industrial Hauling
--Tackling is great for roaming gangs, but dont expect the miners or ratters to need a tackler.
--Salvaging is really good money, you just need to find a ratter who doesnt already have someone following them.
--Mining is constant, steady income. The only things that disrupt mining are NPC's spawning, or hostiles in system warping to where you are mining, and you should then warp out as you should ALWAYS BE ALIGNED WHEN MINING.
--Hauling can earn you a bit of money in an industrial, but would have to talk to the industrial people in corp about what they need hauled, and how much they will pay you to haul it. Also the dangers of getting blowed up by roaming enemies.
ALSO: There's no shame in going to empire to mission. Its a really good way to relax and earn a bit of scratch while you train up.
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This isn't bad advice.
Having some money start with out in 0.0 is most certainly a good idea.
I dont think you know what "en masse" means. We'll let you know when a significant number of goons decide to come to empire.
I quit earlier for basically the same reasons phenko is talking about, and I think that were I to come back, my approach would be to play the first couple months extremely casually, doing occaisional mining ops/salvaging when available in 0.0 and missions in empire, and just let money and skills build up slowly. Then get into serious things once I'd given skills some time to build up.
I realize that MerchI and GS try and do a bunch of things to make the starting period fun and easy for newbies, but EVE still needs a much bigger investment of time before the 'real fun' starts than other MMOs do. Even tackling in pvp, I'd often just get killed immediately (or not survive jumpgate lag, in a couple larger groups.) Even if you can get past the PvP aspect (which was tough hard for me to acclimate to), EVE's a tough game to pick up at this point.
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
Has the boot.ini thingy been fixed?
Yes, but a few other big Trinity bugs remain. Most wont impact new players.
Whew. Good to know.
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Now, for some real advice requests, etc...
What's a good PVE fitting for a Merlin? Right now I have a light shield booster, shield battery, 2 150 MM railguns, and 2 Standard Missile Launchers.
By the way, I'm playing as an Achura/Monk/Military/Special Forces.
What? No, this is terrible advice. Mission running is rubbish and the profit from it is a soul-destroying trickle. The free ships are junk, not cool. If you leave merch and go back to empire you WILL leave the game because you will be on your own pissing about with no direction or purpose. I have no idea what your mentor did or who he was but if all he did was give you some cash, that's not mentoring. If you want, I can teach you the basic skills of bottomfeeding in epros in an afternoon. There's a whole infrastructure in merch and goonfleet that let's you profit quickly and easily even from basic tinker activities.
This repo guy is consistently full of shit btw. Mass convoys to and from empire = slow moving juicy target. Our industrial pilots fly at random times with a single scout escort. You dont fight you way to empire, you just sneak through.
Protip: dont listen to advice from our enemies because they are all either stupid or malicious.
You really can't sit back idly. Ask every few minutes in corp chat for people ratting and the like. Hell, when we first got epro I helped run a mining op that lasted nearly two days or so.
We have mentors and such in place so that you can ask, since we have people on nearly 24/7 that are mentors and willing to help. But we're not terribly organised in the 2200 HOURS MANDATORY OP CTA and whatever that other, more stringent corps have. So you really need to speak up and talk with everyone else in the corp and get things going on your own. Also Szech's post, gieving isk is not enough, no nubs have convo'd me as of late, but I make it a point to teach proper ship fitting, scanner use, terminology, tactics, and atleast a couple ways to make isku on their own. I tried eve before I knew about merchi or anything about the game really. I was already unsubbed after paying for a month because it was boring playing on my own and barely being able to afford basic items because hurrr missions. Convo volatile or someone else and we'll see what can be done to set you up.
MRCHI is full of cats. Herding cats is not easy.
On the upside we finally took down the godamn vaga and crusader that's been harassing some of you new guys in epro/azn.
http://killboard.xenobytes.se/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=51495
^ stabbed crusader, jesus christ
http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/155286
^ I had hoped to see more mrchi on that one, since he came in to save his crusader buddy I had tackled. God ares are so hot now.
Voice would have been nice, but it was late and I was intending to go to bed when aimee formed a fleet. Screaming to my laptop at 2am wouldn't have been appreciated
We'll need to run more ops, but that one was getting better than the usual OH GOD WHAT DO I DO *boom*
Aside from our poor phrasing of wwwww, more people should have warped to the nearby planet then back onto me. Thank god for the goon in the huginn though. When he exploded and that guy that's been roaming around in his Ishtar decided better of it and fucked off. We really need more webs fit and huginns around with all the nano ships flying through our space
You sir are an idiot. I am simply offering him additional options because he is obviously not getting the help he needs from his corp mates. If he was, he wouldn't have posted here. This game means many things to different people. If you are brand new to the game and not just a new alt, things will be very difficult in 0.0. Sure corps will give free ships and the like but there is a general lack of purpose. If you are not careful you could just wander aimlessly and achieve nothing. Running missions is a good way to learn the game. I am not saying it should be your entire purpose but can be a distraction while you find what you like in the game.
I suggest instead of bashing me and my options that you spend more time and cultivate relationships with your new corp mates. If you were, they would not be posting issues like this.
For the record, we are not enemies, you are a target for a contract, that is all. Repo has no enemies. I have no bias because once the contract is over, the Goonies will just be another alliance that we fly by to hit our next target.
Fly safe.
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Didn't I accidentally click a link to eve-o?
To actually help with this, firstly let me explain salvaging briefly. Salvaging lets you retrieve items from a dead ships hull. This is different from looting because you're actually taking apart the hull itself to retrieve items you can't get from just looting. This parts are used for making rigs - basically implants for ships - although you don't need to make the rigs to make money from salvaging, you can just sell the salvage.
So, to start salvaging you need to find some wrecks. The easiest way to find some wrecks is to kill some ships, but the ships you are currently capable of killing probably don't drop very good salvage. You'd be lucky if they drop anything more than scrap metal. So the next easiest way to find some wrecks - especially in 0.0 space is to go to a system where other people are ratting and ask if you can salvage their wrecks. Just check if any of our corp mates are in local and ask them - preferably in corp chat if there are non-corp members in local - if you can scoop the salvage from any wrecks they leave behind. They might say no, because some people like to salvage their own wrecks but often they will be happy for you to do it. Just fly from asteroid belt to asteroid belt and any white wrecks you see you can lock, tractor and salvage.
Once you have some salvage, you need to sell it. You can sell it on the market, but there are some corp members who will buy it direct and you can find instructions on how to contract it to them on our corp forums or ask in game.
I've been on hiatus for a while, but I'll try to be on evenings (UK/EVE time) this week, so if I see you in game I am going to demand that you come and salvage while I rat. I will even gang with you so you can get my pathetic gang bonuses and share my bounties. But only because it is Christmas.
Now 'missions'. I presume by missions you mean PvP sorties. These you don't exactly get invited on. We have a channel that you should've been given the details for that deals with forming gangs for operations, just keep an eye on it and if anybody asks for people to x up, drop an x in the channel and you will soon be invited to join the gang.
And brilliant money compared to what you'd be earning running missions.
Incidentally, I was wondering if there was a gallente ship that would serve as a good jewratter? I'm thinking perhaps a cruiser that would let you fill the drone bay with enough DPS to kill moderate sized spawns leaving about four high slots free for a couple of tractor beams and salvagers? Even if it couldn't kill battleship spawns but would be a good escort for a BS ratter that could salvage behind him as well as killing off the smaller escort ships for them? I reckon a vexor could probably do the job. You could maybe get the Imucus to work at a push although you'd need good drone skills to maximise the damage from the limited drone space and you could only fit two salvagers (although by compensation you probably wouldn't need tractors as you could just fit an MWD and burn to any wrecks, especially if the BS ratter fitted a tractor or two in their spare slots to pull all the wrecks into one spot for you).
3x med nos, tractor/salvager, 10mn AB, web, wildcard mid, MAR, EANM, thermal/em hards
load up some hammerheads/ogres and go to town
Reading this makes me happy. Hopefully I'll be in a vexor in a week or so. I just wasn't sure about the PvE power of a vex.
I guess I just need to get Drone Interfacing up, and the skills that require it
As for being a newb in 0.0.
I actually spent about 2 weeks up in Empire, just getting used to the game. I did some agent missions and did some mining. And I trained up a bunch of skills. When I got to the point where I was almost bored to tears (which happened last week) I applied to MRCHI and made the trek to E-pr0s.
I even made the 50+ jumps because I wanted to
The last couple days I've been trying to digest all the information available, and trying to "find myself" in 0.0. I even did a little mining op in e-pr0s last night, just to try and get used to gangs. I just quickly realized I needed my own hauler
Hopefully by Sunday I'll be in a Hurricane and able to solo rat.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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Yeah, it means I won't be wasting time or torpedos on Cruiser spawns either, since newbies ratting in Cruisers are likely to be killing those themselves. Normally I clear them out to make room for better spawns, but if I was ganged with a ratter in a Cruiser I could leave those to him and then call him in to help out with larger spawns as and when necessary (never necessary, but it'd make thing quicker if we were gang ratting anyway, plus I could leave him to scoop the salvage while I went off to find another good spawn).
This newbie does not have a cruiser yet. I'm puttering around in a Frigate, but will hopefully pick up Cruisers after Christmas. Using the holiday to get Drones V
But I've been running belts in e-pros, looking for ratters and asking if they're salvaging. Some of them have been nice enough to let me salvage.
Me and a couple others ganged with a cruiser last night though, and the bunch of us shot up some of the easier rats. That was fun