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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    tho i haven't yet noticed a pattern for what triggers it hmm

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    VishNub wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    what do you lose between the two

    butter, cheese, cream (so alfredo, omg), eggs, honey, some others

    Basically imagine if most baked goods sucked. That's veganism vs vegetarianism.

    My story about this is that in my lab there was a gluten free person, a vegan person, and a person who liked to bake cakes for everyone's birthday.

    It is possible to make a decent vegan cake. It is possible to make a decent gluten free cake. It is not possible to make a decent gluten free vegan cake.

    You can make good baked goods that are vegan or even gluten-free. You just can't make all the kinds of amazing baked goods you get from just normal baking while doing those things. There's tastes and textures and structures and all that shit that just don't work without the ingredients you are cutting out.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    even tho it's annoyingly started requiring an account login to manage your drivers, i just noticed something useful about geforce experience: it actually keeps track (and thumbnails) of all the games on my system, which is handy between uplay, steam, origin, standalone stuff etc. i now use it as my 'what should i play' launcher

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    the doctor on ER just said he makes 23k a year

    that seems impossible, even 20 years ago

    a'yup

    unless he was a first-year resident?

    damn that's nuts. and no, I don't believe so

    I always justified how little sleep they get and the insane stress by saying well they get paid so much...

    and I thought that was true now, it doesn't come up almost ever but I certainly still believe they got paid super well

    I guess it's just private practice doctors that make loads of money, I thought it was all of them

    kind of floored honestly, that's like fucking nothing. for one of the highest stress and most important jobs that exist.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Variable wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    the doctor on ER just said he makes 23k a year

    that seems impossible, even 20 years ago

    a'yup

    unless he was a first-year resident?

    damn that's nuts. and no, I don't believe so

    I always justified how little sleep they get and the insane stress by saying well they get paid so much...

    and I thought that was true now, it doesn't come up almost ever but I certainly still believe they got paid super well

    I guess it's just private practice doctors that make loads of money, I thought it was all of them

    kind of floored honestly, that's like fucking nothing. for one of the highest stress and most important jobs that exist.

    according to google, even the lowest paid full physicians (general practitioners/family doctors) average around 155k (all the way up to half a million for surgical specialties, anesthesiologists etc)

    but yeah between undergrad and med school and residency (especially if they have a specialty in mind they can't get posted to right away) most of them don't start making that until well into their 30s

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    the doctor on ER just said he makes 23k a year

    that seems impossible, even 20 years ago

    a'yup

    unless he was a first-year resident?

    damn that's nuts. and no, I don't believe so

    I always justified how little sleep they get and the insane stress by saying well they get paid so much...

    and I thought that was true now, it doesn't come up almost ever but I certainly still believe they got paid super well

    I guess it's just private practice doctors that make loads of money, I thought it was all of them

    kind of floored honestly, that's like fucking nothing. for one of the highest stress and most important jobs that exist.

    Yeah, as far as I know (and I'm assuming it's even worse in the US cause lolamerica) it takes a bit to be making big money and you go into so much debt to get to that point you really gotta start hustling to get over the hump and so it's the old doctors who are making bank.

    The long hours are basically a way to make all that money and also a hazing ritual of sorts. A really awesome one that kills a lot of patients on a regular basis.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Organichu wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    ugh I'm getting weird graphics flickering in chrome. y'all's avatars are blinking like crazy.

    :sighs, updates graphics driver:

    naw that's happening to me too

    haha yep i was due for a driver update but the problem persists. sigh.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

    A slightly inaccurate but helpful way to think about it is that it's an apprenticeship.

    It gives fresh medical school graduates some hands-on experience under supervision of another doctor. How strict that supervision is depends on a lot of factors.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    ugh I'm getting weird graphics flickering in chrome. y'all's avatars are blinking like crazy.

    :sighs, updates graphics driver:

    So it's not just me?

    Huh. I thought for a second Atomika had gone hardcore in her celebration of her move by making her AV flashy as fuck.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Variable wrote: »
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

    so a resident is an md- they're a doctor- but they have to be under the supervision of an 'attending' physician. like, i don't know how much autonomy you have, if a 'full' doctor has to sign off on everything you do. but it's basically babby doctor. the length of residency depends but for specialized surgeries, for instance, it can be almost a decade (and you're not getting out of med school until you're ~25 or something)

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    your avs look fine to me




    ;3

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

    A slightly inaccurate but helpful way to think about it is that it's an apprenticeship.

    It gives fresh medical school graduates some hands-on experience under supervision of another doctor. How strict that supervision is depends on a lot of factors.

    yeah, the guy who said he made 23k (Benton, for anyone who's seen ER) must not be a resident because he gets a student (or, I guess resident) in the first episode (Noah Wiley)

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

    A slightly inaccurate but helpful way to think about it is that it's an apprenticeship.

    It gives fresh medical school graduates some hands-on experience under supervision of another doctor. How strict that supervision is depends on a lot of factors.

    yeah, the guy who said he made 23k (Benton, for anyone who's seen ER) must not be a resident because he gets a student (or, I guess resident) in the first episode (Noah Wiley)

    Benton?

    Oh, it's because he's black.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    I have heard Crichton wrote this in the 80s so maybe that's a detail he didn't change

    plus right now another character (who was in that scene) is interviewing for a job where he's being offered 120k, so they may have used that value just to make the comparison more dramatic, making the other job more appealing.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    @Fuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud
    i just thought back to your husbando who basically degloves his foot when my big toe started finally peeling from the thing. it basically all came up from the knuckle on both sides, all around the nail, until i was holding one gigantic hollow tube of skin and it's like my big toenail was a frenched lamb bone and all the skin was the meat around it

    it was aesthetically beautiful

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pretty sure NATO and Western Europe's plan for Scandinavia is for you to be a large enough speed bump to Russia that a counter attack can be put together to keep them out of Germany, France, and stuck in the Baltic.

    24 hours

    24 hours is how much of a speedbump we'll be - as in, norway. Or, that was the plan, back when we had a large invasion defence.

    ftOqU21.png
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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

    so a resident is an md- they're a doctor- but they have to be under the supervision of an 'attending' physician. like, i don't know how much autonomy you have, if a 'full' doctor has to sign off on everything you do. but it's basically babby doctor. the length of residency depends but for specialized surgeries, for instance, it can be almost a decade (and you're not getting out of med school until you're ~25 or something)

    It's a post-doc for MDs.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pretty sure NATO and Western Europe's plan for Scandinavia is for you to be a large enough speed bump to Russia that a counter attack can be put together to keep them out of Germany, France, and stuck in the Baltic.

    24 hours

    24 hours is how much of a speedbump we'll be - as in, norway. Or, that was the plan, back when we had a large invasion defence.

    Doesn't it take longer than 24 hours to get all the way around Scandinavia on like, the train?

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    let's play Game! The! System!

    worst, most annoying part of this assignment is worth 15 points

    however every assignment in this class comes with a clear grading rubric (makes sense it's technical writing after all!)

    minimum score for this section of the assignment is 0, for 'not attempted'. Next up 'does not meet expectations' is 9 points.

    hell yeah get 60% just for writing any old bullshit lets do this

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    let's play Game! The! System!

    worst, most annoying part of this assignment is worth 15 points

    however every assignment in this class comes with a clear grading rubric (makes sense it's technical writing after all!)

    minimum score for this section of the assignment is 0, for 'not attempted'. Next up 'does not meet expectations' is 9 points.

    hell yeah get 60% just for writing any old bullshit lets do this
    This is indeed the essence of community college

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    VishNub wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pretty sure NATO and Western Europe's plan for Scandinavia is for you to be a large enough speed bump to Russia that a counter attack can be put together to keep them out of Germany, France, and stuck in the Baltic.

    24 hours

    24 hours is how much of a speedbump we'll be - as in, norway. Or, that was the plan, back when we had a large invasion defence.

    Doesn't it take longer than 24 hours to get all the way around Scandinavia on like, the train?

    depends on what you mean by "around"

    through? From where to where?


    actually no it doesn't: yes it takes more than 24 hours. Or, mostly, you can't. Not that many train tracks.


    But after 24 hours there'd be nothing left of our armed forces and, without NATO, we would cease to be even just a speedbump, we could just be ignored

    Abdhyius on
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    let's play Game! The! System!

    worst, most annoying part of this assignment is worth 15 points

    however every assignment in this class comes with a clear grading rubric (makes sense it's technical writing after all!)

    minimum score for this section of the assignment is 0, for 'not attempted'. Next up 'does not meet expectations' is 9 points.

    hell yeah get 60% just for writing any old bullshit lets do this

    I challenge you with my own bullshit class about witches

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    let's play Game! The! System!

    worst, most annoying part of this assignment is worth 15 points

    however every assignment in this class comes with a clear grading rubric (makes sense it's technical writing after all!)

    minimum score for this section of the assignment is 0, for 'not attempted'. Next up 'does not meet expectations' is 9 points.

    hell yeah get 60% just for writing any old bullshit lets do this

    I challenge you with my own bullshit class about witches

    can I see the grading rubric of your challenge?

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Variable wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    oh okay, I am realizing I don't know what "residency" means

    A slightly inaccurate but helpful way to think about it is that it's an apprenticeship.

    It gives fresh medical school graduates some hands-on experience under supervision of another doctor. How strict that supervision is depends on a lot of factors.

    yeah, the guy who said he made 23k (Benton, for anyone who's seen ER) must not be a resident because he gets a student (or, I guess resident) in the first episode (Noah Wiley)

    Ok no residents (at least in psychiatry) are not like postdocs

    they have way way more autonomy and are hardly supervised at all

    husband (3rd year resident) has all his own outpatients who come to him for therapy and meds; he is meant to meet with attending supervisors once every week or two to discuss any problems. That's it. They don't oversee his decisions on a case by case basis at all. Most of his work (3 days a week) is seeing outpatients in his office.
    Another day is didactics--lectures, journal club. Acknowledgement that he's a student sort of.
    The other day is a rotation at a med management clinic where he sees a gazillion patients with 15 min appointments and doesn't give them benzos

    When he's on call (once every couple of weeks), he supervises medical students and younger residents doing consults. I think an attending will generally also see each patient on consults eventually, after the resident has figured out the problem and come up with a course of action. It's possible the attending only comes if there's a question?

    They get a lot of autonomy and responsibility effective immediately after med school. Not quite an apprenticeship as much as on-the-job training.

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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    Atomika the Safeway in cap hill is close to where I get my weed

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    Arch,
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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    thanks cred

    although I am still at a loss as to Benton's position and his likely pay. may have to look up some show summaries tomorrow, they may explain at least the former

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pretty sure NATO and Western Europe's plan for Scandinavia is for you to be a large enough speed bump to Russia that a counter attack can be put together to keep them out of Germany, France, and stuck in the Baltic.

    24 hours

    24 hours is how much of a speedbump we'll be - as in, norway. Or, that was the plan, back when we had a large invasion defence.

    Doesn't it take longer than 24 hours to get all the way around Scandinavia on like, the train?

    depends on what you mean by "around"

    through? From where to where?


    actually no it doesn't: yes it takes more than 24 hours. Or, mostly, you can't. Not that many train tracks.


    But after 24 hours there'd be nothing left of our armed forces and, without NATO, we would cease to be even just a speedbump, we could just be ignored

    I meant from like Stockholm to Helsinki by land

    Edit2: though I think it might just be a Mercator thing that’s making me say that

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    I just woke up from a nightmare who’s bed can I crawl into and sleep in until I’m safe again

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    Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    Neco wrote: »
    I just woke up from a nightmare who’s bed can I crawl into and sleep in until I’m safe again

    Mine, I won't be going back to sleep for a bit. We can switch places in a couple hours maybe?

    vRyue2p.png
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    VishNub wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pretty sure NATO and Western Europe's plan for Scandinavia is for you to be a large enough speed bump to Russia that a counter attack can be put together to keep them out of Germany, France, and stuck in the Baltic.

    24 hours

    24 hours is how much of a speedbump we'll be - as in, norway. Or, that was the plan, back when we had a large invasion defence.

    Doesn't it take longer than 24 hours to get all the way around Scandinavia on like, the train?

    depends on what you mean by "around"

    through? From where to where?


    actually no it doesn't: yes it takes more than 24 hours. Or, mostly, you can't. Not that many train tracks.


    But after 24 hours there'd be nothing left of our armed forces and, without NATO, we would cease to be even just a speedbump, we could just be ignored

    I meant from like Stockholm to Helsinki by land

    that's possible, but why would anyone

    post-36441-1176575526.jpg

    (railway map)

    also finland is not scandinavia :P

    Abdhyius on
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    credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    thanks cred

    although I am still at a loss as to Benton's position and his likely pay. may have to look up some show summaries tomorrow, they may explain at least the former

    Ah right and he makes somewhere between 50-55K after having made 0 as a med student.
    It was completely unreasonable during the first year of his residency (also confusingly called intern year) where he was on call a lot more and just working like 80 hour weeks, which made his salary hourly less than minimum wage :(

    but holy fuck starting attendings make like 200K so uh

    worth

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    Neco wrote: »
    I just woke up from a nightmare who’s bed can I crawl into and sleep in until I’m safe again

    Mine, I won't be going back to sleep for a bit. We can switch places in a couple hours maybe?

    *crawls into vh’s bed with teddy bear*

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    thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Pretty sure NATO and Western Europe's plan for Scandinavia is for you to be a large enough speed bump to Russia that a counter attack can be put together to keep them out of Germany, France, and stuck in the Baltic.

    24 hours

    24 hours is how much of a speedbump we'll be - as in, norway. Or, that was the plan, back when we had a large invasion defence.

    Doesn't it take longer than 24 hours to get all the way around Scandinavia on like, the train?

    depends on what you mean by "around"

    through? From where to where?


    actually no it doesn't: yes it takes more than 24 hours. Or, mostly, you can't. Not that many train tracks.


    But after 24 hours there'd be nothing left of our armed forces and, without NATO, we would cease to be even just a speedbump, we could just be ignored

    I meant from like Stockholm to Helsinki by land

    that's possible, but why would anyone

    https://www.diskusjon.no/uploads/post-36441-1176575526.jpg

    (railway map)

    also finland is not scandinavia :P

    Many Bothnian Spies died to get us this information.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    thanks cred

    although I am still at a loss as to Benton's position and his likely pay. may have to look up some show summaries tomorrow, they may explain at least the former

    Ah right and he makes somewhere between 50-55K after having made 0 as a med student.
    It was completely unreasonable during the first year of his residency (also confusingly called intern year) where he was on call a lot more and just working like 80 hour weeks, which made his salary hourly less than minimum wage :(

    but holy fuck starting attendings make like 200K so uh

    worth

    how many years spent studying instead of earning, plus what amount of student loans, does that have to weigh up for

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    Havelock2.0Havelock2.0 Sufficiently Chill The Chill ZoneRegistered User regular
    Butts

    I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    Butts

    Butty McButtface

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    kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    thanks cred

    although I am still at a loss as to Benton's position and his likely pay. may have to look up some show summaries tomorrow, they may explain at least the former

    Ah right and he makes somewhere between 50-55K after having made 0 as a med student.
    It was completely unreasonable during the first year of his residency (also confusingly called intern year) where he was on call a lot more and just working like 80 hour weeks, which made his salary hourly less than minimum wage :(

    but holy fuck starting attendings make like 200K so uh

    worth

    a friend's wife was low-key griping that she owes ~$500,000 in student loans

    but only low-key, because she is just hitting the part of her career where she makes $Texas annually

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    thanks cred

    although I am still at a loss as to Benton's position and his likely pay. may have to look up some show summaries tomorrow, they may explain at least the former

    Ah right and he makes somewhere between 50-55K after having made 0 as a med student.
    It was completely unreasonable during the first year of his residency (also confusingly called intern year) where he was on call a lot more and just working like 80 hour weeks, which made his salary hourly less than minimum wage :(

    but holy fuck starting attendings make like 200K so uh

    worth

    how many years spent studying instead of earning, plus what amount of student loans, does that have to weigh up for

    ~40-50k for 4 years, plus Cost of living, expenses, iirc

    Then residency, which is probably close to breaking even but not saving much for another few years.

    VishNub on
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