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State of the Union 2018: Just Another Dick and His Wall

StericaSterica YesRegistered User, Moderator mod
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Tonight @ 9pm EST

It's time for the annual State of the Union address! What is that, you may ask? It's when the president of the United States gets pretty much the whole of the federal government together and give a speech on, as you may have guessed, the status of the country. But these days that purpose has more or less gone out the window, as no president would admit that the country is ailing under their watch. So instead it's more about hearing what the president has accomplished in the past year, and what they plan to do in this new year. It gives a self-imposed set of goals to judge the administration on, although sadly most will have forgotten about it by Valentine's Day. It also gives the president a chance to speak directly to the American people about what they plan to do, although our current president's...methods of communication have shown that social media is even eroding that part of the speech.

This will be Trump's first state of the union, as last year he did a weird "I'm a big boy!" speech to show how *~~Presidential~~* he could be since giving a State of the Union address right after taking office is kinda silly. It's hard to say if we'll get moments of bizarre behaviors, those little breaks as Trump gets bored and goes off script. He did well enough, behaviorally speaking, last year, so it'll likely be a dull event. With his polls still in the gutter, and his behavior having arguably gotten worse, it remains to be scene if Trump can at least pretend to be an adult for an evening instead of a child who was promised candy if he doesn't burp while reading his paper to the class.

Oh, and this thread is special, and thus it has special rules:
  1. This thread is temporary. It will be locked at an undisclosed time after the address is over. Do not take it upon yourself to make a new thread: this is a one-time deal.
  2. People exist out there with opinions different from yours. This is unfortunate, but such is life. It is difficult to have a manageable discussion if people are yelling back and forth at each other, so please keep a calm head when engaging with people. Spirited debate is fine, but posts full of catty insults and huge posts that dissect another's person post with 50 quote tags makes for a thread that is almost impossible to read for all but a handful of people.
  3. Do not engage with assholes. If someone is spouting off shitty rhetoric (racism, sexism, transphobia, etc.), then report them. Replying to their nonsense just derails the thread and, honestly, they're most likely shitty trolls with no interest in discourse. Don't waste your time on them.
  4. Being SE++, the thread will not always be on topic. This generally isn't a problem during the meat of the State of the Union, but things may derail a bit before and after to talk about hot topics of the day. Don't get too bent out of shape over this.

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Donald "Shithole" Trump
President of the United States of America
State of the Union

Trump's presidency thus far has been marked mostly by struggles and failures. Repeatedly stymied when repealing the ACA, kicking minorities out of the country, and even maintaining consistent staff, the Trump administration is kind of a mess. Things have been looking up for the Orange One, as his tax cut reform was a major coup, and he's also getting credit for the recovering economy. Does he deserve such praise? Absolutely not, but he will continue to take credit for the recovery that had been in motion years prior to his election. Immigration is the big thing right now, especially with democrats caving quickly during a government shutdown to protect dreamers, a nickname for immigrants who were brought over here as children. We're talking 800,000 lives on the line here, so we'll see how Trump approaches the issue now. Also, maybe some paranoid ranting about the FBI. We'll see.

Expected Topics: Jerking off to how great the DOW is doing, telling everyone how great the tax cuts are for corporations, lots on immigration, and of course that fucking wall.

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Joe "Yet Another" Kennedy
Representative of Massachusetts
Democratic Response

Democrats are playing from a tough spot. Their shutdown went nowhere fast, which has gotten people on both sides upset with them. The economy is doing well, and it's hard to explain in a short time how Trump has precious little to do with that, especially when Trump can just point a finger at bigger numbers and claim he did it. Simply put, the bad stuff from Trump's presidency is not going to come to fruition right away (...unless you're a dreamer), which makes it much harder to fight against him. The good news is that Democrats are still polling pretty strongly for midterms, and they're coming off some big wins in Alabama and Virginia. And Trump still polls terribly and is rude little shit, alleviating a lot of the heavy lifting they'll need to combat his administration. But November is still a ways away, so dems still have to play a careful game.

Expected Topics: That immigrants are, in fact, human beings, why the ACA is good, and why Trump is terrible.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    This should be an event for sure

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    Fuck this guy and the undereducated horse he rode in on. I'll be at work tomorrow night. Let me know if anybody throws their shoe at him.

  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    democrats need a political position that isn't "trudge deeper into neoliberalism"

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I'd say "are there any drinking games for this" but I played one during one of the election debates and in a half hour had 7 and a half shots of whiskey. I stopped before the next hour played out.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I am in a debate about seeing The Last Jedi tomorrow but with how mail theft is very high lately and I am getting things in the mail my brother advises against it.
    So I feel I will watch one of my $10 amazon movies that came in , instead of the humble brag our pos PotUS will do

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    I'd say "are there any drinking games for this" but I played one during one of the election debates and in a half hour had 7 and a half shots of whiskey. I stopped before the next hour played out.

    Take a drink if you are crippled with despair. Take a drink if the full phrase "make America great again" is spoken aloud. Take a drink if you fear for your life because of President Elderly Crash Bandicoot Skin. Finish the bottle if a Democrat walks out mid speech.

  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I cannot listen to that man talk. So I won't.

    I hope all the Democrats boycott it. I want to see a half-empty congress in all the pictures.

    They won't.

  • Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Henroid wrote: »
    I'd say "are there any drinking games for this" but I played one during one of the election debates and in a half hour had 7 and a half shots of whiskey. I stopped before the next hour played out.

    Take a drink if you are crippled with despair. Take a drink if the full phrase "make America great again" is spoken aloud. Take a drink if you fear for your life because of President Elderly Crash Bandicoot Skin. Finish the bottle if a Democrat walks out mid speech.

    And only bring one bottle because you will probably be able to finish several if you bring more.

    What can he really say that anyone needs to know. He doesn't know what is going on in the world and he hired incompetent people to advise him, or competent white supremacists, not sure which. We will probably get fox news talking points and at least one attack on Hillary.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    Aistan wrote: »
    I cannot listen to that man talk. So I won't.

    I hope all the Democrats boycott it. I want to see a half-empty congress in all the pictures.

    They won't.

    I especially can't deal with a situation where he inexplicably brags about how great everything is going*.

    So yeah staying away from this but happy to hear what anybody brave enough to suffer through it says.

    *I spent five minutes yelling at the tv over a guy who claimed that "of course the tax cut will increase wages thats basic economic theory" No it isn't you asshole. Why would you say that?

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/01/29/names-of-campaign-donors-to-be-flashed-during-live-stream-of-trumps-state-of-the-union-speech

    Anyone who donates $35 or more to Trump's campaign during the State of the Union gets to have their name flashed on the screen.

    The President of the United States is now a Twitch-streamer, ladies and gentlefolk.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/01/29/names-of-campaign-donors-to-be-flashed-during-live-stream-of-trumps-state-of-the-union-speech

    Anyone who donates $35 or more to Trump's campaign during the State of the Union gets to have their name flashed on the screen.

    The President of the United States is now a Twitch-streamer, ladies and gentlefolk.

    that's just sad and horrifying

  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/01/29/names-of-campaign-donors-to-be-flashed-during-live-stream-of-trumps-state-of-the-union-speech

    Anyone who donates $35 or more to Trump's campaign during the State of the Union gets to have their name flashed on the screen.

    The President of the United States is now a Twitch-streamer, ladies and gentlefolk.
    Great, some whale is going to donate with a bunch of names / identities that aren't theirs. I wonder if the president can be sued if someone's identity is stolen and broadcast.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/01/29/names-of-campaign-donors-to-be-flashed-during-live-stream-of-trumps-state-of-the-union-speech

    Anyone who donates $35 or more to Trump's campaign during the State of the Union gets to have their name flashed on the screen.

    The President of the United States is now a Twitch-streamer, ladies and gentlefolk.
    Great, some whale is going to donate with a bunch of names / identities that aren't theirs. I wonder if the president can be sued if someone's identity is stolen and broadcast.

    Less whales, more trolls.

    Enter 4Chan, to the tune of Enter Sandman.

  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/01/29/names-of-campaign-donors-to-be-flashed-during-live-stream-of-trumps-state-of-the-union-speech

    Anyone who donates $35 or more to Trump's campaign during the State of the Union gets to have their name flashed on the screen.

    The President of the United States is now a Twitch-streamer, ladies and gentlefolk.
    Great, some whale is going to donate with a bunch of names / identities that aren't theirs. I wonder if the president can be sued if someone's identity is stolen and broadcast.

    Less whales, more trolls.

    Enter 4Chan, to the tune of Enter Sandman.

    So I can expect to lose The Game during this thing?

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Can he keep it together for an hour? The fact that that's a serious question we don't know the answer to is depressing

  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I usually don't watch these, they tend to be dry and kind of boring and I can get it summed up by news outlets the next day.

    Trump though...I'm torn between wanting to hear if he does anything insane, and having to try and untangle his word knots.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Truly, this is the moment he becomes president. Period.

    :rotate:

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Don't you mean State of the Uniom?

  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    Jesus.

    More like State of the Onion.

  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    I'm excited to watch news outlets praise him for not taking his pants off and then vomiting all over the stage

    Oooo how presidential he was, he didn't tell boyscouts about the orgies he used to go to on rich guys yachts

    YES THIS IS A THING THAT HAPPENED

  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    What are the chances that Puerto Rico gets any mention at all?

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    If everyone would just not watch this, its ratings will be terrible. That's the only thing 45 gives a fuck about, so that's really the only way to hurt him.

  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    I'm just gonna choose to experience this through the thread, I think.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I'll watch it on YouTube or something much later, or just the highlights. I really don't want to give this thing ratings

  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I am 100% going to not watch this. I'll probably watch Supergirl instead, which is already one of the most anti-trump tv shows currently on air.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    by the economy doing well, you mean rich people are doing well right

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    by the economy doing well, you mean rich people are doing well right

    Wealthy people, yeah. A lot of 'normal' richies (MAMs or Mostly Asset Millionaires) are not going so crash hot too, but if you're a proper multimillionaire or better, shit's pretty good yeah.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »

    Do they not just have like a word template typed up for them to change the # and who's delivering it? Bunch of fucking amateurs.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    I would bet they absolutely do have a Word template somewhere, on some computer in the White House, and the person who knows where that is was fired abruptly about 10 months ago.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Yeah I'm not planning on watching this live, as I won't be able to take it.

    It's not even going to be an spectacle or anything. Just Trump reading from a teleprompter, avoiding calling anyone the N or C word, and throwing out meaningless phrases about Unity, America, etc.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I literally cannot watch this. It's going to be so many lies about how great Trump is doing and how the country is running so great because of him...


    I'll end up very very pissed off.

  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I don’t think I can bring myself to watch it.

    Not because it’ll throw me into a blind rage (which it probably will).

    But because have you guys tried to watch this motherfucker speak? He’s maybe the worst public speaker I’ve ever heard. His prepared speeches sound like a 1st grader giving a book report, and his off the cuff remarks sound like anyone’s racist uncle repeating what they heard on infowars.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    I don’t think I can bring myself to watch it.

    Not because it’ll throw me into a blind rage (which it probably will).

    But because have you guys tried to watch this motherfucker speak? He’s maybe the worst public speaker I’ve ever heard. His prepared speeches sound like a 1st grader giving a book report, and his off the cuff remarks sound like anyone’s racist uncle repeating what they heard on infowars.

    Yeah, I am pretty sure I have given better speeches during sixth grade book reports on Animal Farm than this fat fuck has ever had during his entire political career.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    My favorite thing about the stormy Daniels interview was that we got actual concrete information about the presidents fuck style. Thanks for making that the first thing I thought about @Tube

  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    I'm personally hoping this lady puts in an appearance as he's walking up to the podium ...
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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Also, the DOW is taking it on the chin today.

    This is great. Well-timed.

  • jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    I do have a curiosity about whether or not he'll stay on script or if he'll go off the rails and start saying some really stupid/outlandish shit.

    But I don't know if that curiosity is strong enough for me to watch it happen in real time.

  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    I want to know who had the bright idea to put a fucking Kennedy on like dynastic politics is something we should celebrate. Not just any Kennedy, but a shitbird who is deep in the pocket of pharmaceutical companies and who thinks jailing people for pot use is A-OK.

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    Nothing against Joe Kennedy personally but yeah. Would have been nice to see a woman giving the response.

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