Dems are definitely not sending their best to answer this, huh.
SotU rebuttals have mostly turned out to be ways for people to highlight that they’re chumps, and bleed away whatever momentum their political career had accumulated before that. It’s a sacrifice play - by selecting this guy, the Dems aren’t signaling any great confidence in his future. And if he somehow manages to knock it out of the park, they can rally behind him and pretend that was the plan all along.
That’s how the last few SotU rebuttals from the Republicans went too, some pawn they gave lip service to seeing as a ‘rising star’ before shoving them into the line of fire. I can’t remember paying attention to SotU rebuttals before the Obama years though. And can’t recall one ever mattering enough to make an impact in the Bush years. So it’s not inconceivable that there’s an old form that could be worth returning to, but I really doubt it.
The last 7 SotU (and the Joint Session before that) were all Obama, and the likes of presidential hopefuls gave the rebuttal. Their quality was not an indication of Republican opinion on them.
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Apparently Melania just arrived for the SOTU, quite separately from Trump. Aside from being a break in how presidents usually arrive for the SOTU, methinks something isn't going well at home.
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Apparently Melania just arrived for the SOTU, quite separately from Trump. Aside from being a break in how presidents usually arrive for the SOTU, methinks something isn't going well at home.
Might have something to do with being married to a horrible, lecherous, miserable, selfish fucking cockroach of a man.
Apparently Melania just arrived for the SOTU, quite separately from Trump. Aside from being a break in how presidents usually arrive for the SOTU, methinks something isn't going well at home.
Might have something to do with being married to a horrible, lecherous, miserable, selfish fucking cockroach of a man.
She should divorce him. It'd be so sick.
Have any presidents divorced while serving in office?
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I came up with a rule for anyone trying to play a drinking game.
Any time Trump calls someone a name that isn't their actual name, take a drink.
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Apparently Melania just arrived for the SOTU, quite separately from Trump. Aside from being a break in how presidents usually arrive for the SOTU, methinks something isn't going well at home.
Might have something to do with being married to a horrible, lecherous, miserable, selfish fucking cockroach of a man.
She should divorce him. It'd be so sick.
That and the world just found out he fucked a porn Star a month after she gave birth to their son.
Most wives wouldn’t take this news well.
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Apparently Melania just arrived for the SOTU, quite separately from Trump. Aside from being a break in how presidents usually arrive for the SOTU, methinks something isn't going well at home.
Might have something to do with being married to a horrible, lecherous, miserable, selfish fucking cockroach of a man.
She should divorce him. It'd be so sick.
Have any presidents divorced while serving in office?
There has never been a single Bachelor President.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Nothing egregious so far. Lots of talk about tax reform and repeal of the individual mandate of Obamacare. Highlighting people that did awesome things.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
The case rests on JFK's father's accomplishments, in terms of deliberately laying the groundwork such that three of his children rose to national political prominence.
This ignores RFK, who was the AG and widely expected to run for president before he got assassinated, not to mention the dozens of Kennedys (many of whom have different last names) who are deeply embedded in state politics in numerous states.
This doesn't mean I think anyone's obligated to respect a Kennedy's opinion about anything, I'm just saying. They're not idiots.
Man just around 9:45 there was just this hard shift right into fearmongering and jingoism that hasn't let up since, who would've ever seen that coming
The whole thing is likely to be given a pass because we're so used to this kind of rhetoric, and there was no "trump goes crazy and does a trump thing" moment. Instead we just get possibly the most sinister and evil speech in modern american politics, and most wont notice because everything is implied or coded in the usual republican fashion. White Supremacy, Jingoism, nativism and fear mongering. Thats what this was. Willfully ignorant and proud of it. Aid is now only for vassal states, just like jesus would have wanted. Endless war, a proud deceleration that we can treat anyone we deem a terrorist in whatever way we like. An endless drug war. And immigration only for whites. Evangelicals eating it up, listening to the man who talked to kids about orgies and who cheated on his wife with a porn star after she had given birth go on about his christian values.
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The last 7 SotU (and the Joint Session before that) were all Obama, and the likes of presidential hopefuls gave the rebuttal. Their quality was not an indication of Republican opinion on them.
Might have something to do with being married to a horrible, lecherous, miserable, selfish fucking cockroach of a man.
She should divorce him. It'd be so sick.
Gonna watch star trek instead.
Any time Trump calls someone a name that isn't their actual name, take a drink.
Same! Playing morrowind and watching tng!
I'm pretty sure there weren't even presidents who divorced in any fashion before Trump
That and the world just found out he fucked a porn Star a month after she gave birth to their son.
Most wives wouldn’t take this news well.
There has never been a single Bachelor President.
Edited for clarity.
Also if she divorces him, she will need constant protection from his red hat crazy cult for the rest of her life.
I’m now going to watch Black Lightning live to make sure I extra don’t give ratings to the sotu.
I feel like I am making the right choices.
truly a logical choice
state of the unions have always been really dumb about this
states of the union?
There are fifty, Ketbra.
Status of the Union's
it's complicated
Well, no, it doesn't.
The case rests on JFK's father's accomplishments, in terms of deliberately laying the groundwork such that three of his children rose to national political prominence.
This ignores RFK, who was the AG and widely expected to run for president before he got assassinated, not to mention the dozens of Kennedys (many of whom have different last names) who are deeply embedded in state politics in numerous states.
This doesn't mean I think anyone's obligated to respect a Kennedy's opinion about anything, I'm just saying. They're not idiots.
Ronald Reagan was the only president who ever divorced his wife.
That happened decades before he was president
Still he is the only president to have a divorce
I'm shocked--shocked!--to find that gambling is going on in here
The whole thing is likely to be given a pass because we're so used to this kind of rhetoric, and there was no "trump goes crazy and does a trump thing" moment. Instead we just get possibly the most sinister and evil speech in modern american politics, and most wont notice because everything is implied or coded in the usual republican fashion. White Supremacy, Jingoism, nativism and fear mongering. Thats what this was. Willfully ignorant and proud of it. Aid is now only for vassal states, just like jesus would have wanted. Endless war, a proud deceleration that we can treat anyone we deem a terrorist in whatever way we like. An endless drug war. And immigration only for whites. Evangelicals eating it up, listening to the man who talked to kids about orgies and who cheated on his wife with a porn star after she had given birth go on about his christian values.
Im so depressed.