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[Black Panther] The revolution will be live
Harry Dresden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjDjIWPwcPUIt finally happened, Black Panther hit the silver screen.
Crushing the box office already, I will not be surprised if this breaks a billion.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/14/media/black-panther-opening-weekend-projections/index.html
Industry analysts are projecting that the film could bring in about $145 million domestically in its opening weekend, which starts Thursday. "Black Panther" could rake in more than $160 million during the four day President's Day weekend, analysts say.
Disney anticipates an opening in the $150 million range for the four day holiday weekend.
"Black Panther" could easily become the biggest February opening in history, toppling "Deadpool," the R-rated superhero film from 20th Century Fox that brought in $132 million when it opened in 2016.("Deadpool" also holds the four day President's Day opening record at $152 million).
"Black Panther's" three day projections would also put it in the top openings for a Marvel Studios film and in the top ten opening for the superhero genre overall.
Batman? He's old news - Hollywood is T'Challa's playground now.
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However: although peaceful outreach does feel like an imperfect solution, I don't think there really is any better general philosophical solution given the complexities of the African diaspora and the history of injustice, because we cannot erase those things, and I consider it self-evident that violent retribution is truly hypocritical, even if viscerally desired. The next-best solution, especially given Wakanda's considerable power, may be the inculcation of Black Excellence and empowerment through cultural outreach of the most technologically advanced and wealthy nation in the world. That outreach - of knowing what blacks have achieved and can achieve, free from colonialism and exploitation - cannot be taken lightly, both symbolically and logistically. MLK's racial message in our world can seem at times like an ineffectual cop-out, just another way for white people to keep non-whites beneath them in an unspoken hierarchy, but in The Avengers Universe, with Wakanda behind it, it really feels like it could effect real change.
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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The tears they came and the fire in my heart was briefly extinguished
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Plus he has some excellent comic relief moments.
Also add one more dollop of tension to Infinity War cause
Was pretty cruel to release these back to back. Here's Wakanda! Cool! Now here's Wakanda on fire! Great.
Yeah... that's the reason...
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And I think the clear choice is Namor. It would make for a super interesting movie that wouldn't just devolve into who can punch better.
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I can't think of any real flaws. Letitia Wright and Danai Gurira were the standouts for me, I loved every minute they were on screen.
The movie feels very poignant right now, and it's really neat that it was black people arguing about black things in black spaces and telling the white characters to shut up for once.
Highly, below Winter Soldier maybe equal to Spider-man: Homecoming.
But sure, top five sounds about right.
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Spoiler why:
That being said, christ almighty did the costume design and set design make up for that. I wanted to pause the movie in a number of spots and just.....look at stuff.
The movie mixes popcorn, blockbuster sensibilities while actually having something to say about many relevant issues and on top of that having a fully realized world, fantastic characters, and great visual and sound design.
The biggest knock is some really sub par cg and green screen use.
For "Origin" Stories i'd say this is right up there.
1. Iron Man (started the whole thing so gets to be #1 by default)
2. Black Panther/Captain America First Avenger
3. Gaurdians
4. Spider Man Homecoming
5. Ant Man
6. Thor
T'Challa himself was the least interesting character in the movie, which is a shame, but also points out how awesome the supporting cast / villains were.
Klaw and Killmonger were both great. The only thing that holds Killmonger back for me is him disappearing from the movie for a bit, but still, great villains.
PSN: Bizazedo
CFN: Bizazedo (I don't think I suck, add me).
Black Panther doesnt really HAVE that many villains of his own, most of them appeared in this movie. His stories tend to be more about international intrigue than traditional superhero brawling. Not to say there isnt any, it's just not the focus the way it usually is.
Agree though
Wow that whole Malcolm X comparison got a little too macabre
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I got a little Alfie Solomons vibe from him later on. I think that fifth tribe was perhaps a little neglected but you can't fit everything into an origin movie
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I wonder what the "time gap" is -in universe- between the two movies.
Send help.
As an aside, and I'm sorry if I'm being a dick here, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am with the Malcolm X comparisons. I think we as a society have, for a very long time, had some pretty inaccurate ideas of Malcom as a person and his actual place in the movement.
While Magneto is a much more apt comparison, vis a vis his contrast with Xavier, Erik Lensherr is also not really a good representation of Malcolm X.
Really, when we compare Magneto or Erik Killmonger to Malcolm, what we're thinking of is the mostly-lies picture of the man shown to us by white American press and politics. Remember, MLK was actively painted as a threat and a dissident until he was shown to be physically harmless. The press could not find a way to not use X as a Boogeyman when his ethos was 'By Any Means Necessary.'
Ironically, this is the same stigma that the Black Panthers were saddled with- Black people who had the nerve to not just let you beat and murder them were obviously terrorists proactively seeking to murder and steal from white folks.
These were lies.
These lies are largely founded on the fear that, after getting fucked for a few hundred years, Black folks (men especially) were someday going to turn around and bend whitey over the same trash can.
This is Erik Killmonger. A Black man with the power and the intent to do to white society (Colonizers as the movie puts it) what it's done to us. It's the power that makes him scary, but it's the intent that makes him a villain. Versus T'challa in the end- so much power, but with the intent to heal everyone.
Because T'challa's last act in the movie isn't him patrolling the streets of Oakland or telling the world the Black Panther is there to save them by punching and looking tough. The Black Panther is there to lead Wakanda as an example to the world that the whole world can be better.
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Can Rocket be there too?
"Aww, the little primates and their baby toys. I have a 3D printing repair gun and I make god destroying bombs with the crap in my toolbox."
I like to picture Rocket sitting in the back quietly giggling to himself while building something.
The other three are arguing about being the smartest and whose plans and designs they should use to best make the anti-Thanos vibranium weapon (It should be a spear!, It should be a suit!, Guys, you're making me nervous..you won't like me when I'm nervous. But the green guy could maybe use some vibranium knuckles...) and the conversation continues getting more heated with Rocket just getting more and more involved in whatever he's building.
Eventually one of the humans says "Should we check on what the rat is doing?"
Then Rocket pulls out the biggest gun we've seen, studded with arc reactors, each pulsing with vibranium light and the thing hums with subsonic power. "Yeah, I think this'll do the job."
Overall plot is solid, but after the first half there seemed to be a lot of points where characters are doing things more because the plot needs them to for the finale than because it makes sense at the time, along with a bunch of call backs to things that happened earlier but were glossed over as not a problem a few minutes earlier.
Cheapened the ending a bit - sure Wakanda is a peaceful nation that only fights to defend itself, though we did just suddenly have the army turn on the secret service in hand to hand combat just yesterday because the new head of state wanted to conquer the world. If it had been more something being done by a small group loyal to the new king, knowing that the blowback would force Wakanda to get involved - then fair enough. But if the army/quarter of the tribes as a whole group just decides they're cool with this plan, then you just look naive saying that you can show people the way.
So much seemed in service of that last battle bit, the M'Baku turning up and then just going away, Shuri seemingly forgetting she designed the suits in the very building they're fighting over, T'challa forgetting to mention that the reason he doesn't have Claue is that Killmonger took him and then later on that he partly agrees with him that he's changed his mind about Wakanda opening up to the world. The rest of the film seemed very tight, which I think is why all the odd things happening during the battle in a green field made things stand out all the more.
Biggest disappointment was the lack of an Infinity War trailer in front of it at my theater. That's all I've got.
The movie doesn't start for 30 minutes.
I think its going to do well
I felt that, but then reconsidered as it seems weird to show a trailer for what is essentially the sequel to the film you're about to see.
Thus my one gripe was that
Get your shit together Marvel, god.
Seriously, I loved the shit out this thing.