Trying to decide build, but I’m leaning towards close defense A and distant defense seal.
I went with Fury/Armored Boots, as I've put him on my dragon team (though I gave him Ward Armor as well, naturally). Distant Def protects against unrefined Julia but Deirdre cuts through his buffs. Close Def does nothing for his b/g/c matchups, and I don't see a reason to have him duel red units when I could just use Nowi.
Do I want any of them evil heroes? Lance Guy seems good but I don't like armored units
Well, if you don't like armored units, then I'd think the only unit you'd possibly want is Evil Celica (Evilica?) since she's not armored. Her B skill looks pretty cool, but probably depends on what sword units you have, and her stats are decent(I think?) all around, but not amazing.
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I think if you attack and one shot you don't get the hp loss, but if you get attacked at all even for 0 damage you lose HP
also speed drain only seems to affect the person on the other team with the highest speed not everyone (at least in lower tiers of the skill)
Her weapon is the same as Summer Robin. It's Fury if at full health. If you do any attack, you take damage that combat.
Yeah this. She basically only gets the buff on the first attack, unless you heal her up to full or she's damaged before being able to attack (in which case she never gets it :P). The tricky thing is that she should probably want to run Renewal in that case, but then that means she gives up her special B slot -7 speed skill
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Random thought popped into my head. Assuming they do another Bride banner this year, I feel we deserve Bride Ninian so that poor Valentine's Eliwood isn't all alone
Also, note to self. Yes, Grima Robin has a lot of res. That doesn't mean I should just be careless and pick training tower maps with green tomes. Amazing to find both Julia and Deirdre almost back to back, but luckily low enough level to not have their Naga tomes yet... Phew...
I'm working toward Aether on Grima, and um... He solos the whole Workout map with just Daylight. It's even more gross at Sol. I flung him in there totally alone. No healer, no dancers. Just one fel dragon against the world.
Edit: Also I pulled another one, this time +ATK/-HP. Now wat do?!
I'm working toward Aether on Grima, and um... He solos the whole Workout map with just Daylight. It's even more gross at Sol. I flung him in there totally alone. No healer, no dancers. Just one fel dragon against the world.
Edit: Also I pulled another one, this time +ATK/-HP. Now wat do?!
+ATK is a super boon (and -HP is not too bad of a bane). Use that sucker Probably merge your first one into him after you've spent all his SP and then re-level.
Also thanks for the tip. I may have to try that tonight. My Grima needs a bunch of SP thanks to IS not giving us a Dragon Valor skill :P
I'm working toward Aether on Grima, and um... He solos the whole Workout map with just Daylight. It's even more gross at Sol. I flung him in there totally alone. No healer, no dancers. Just one fel dragon against the world.
Edit: Also I pulled another one, this time +ATK/-HP. Now wat do?!
+ATK is a super boon (and -HP is not too bad of a bane). Use that sucker Probably merge your first one into him after you've spent all his SP and then re-level.
Also thanks for the tip. I may have to try that tonight. My Grima needs a bunch of SP thanks to IS not giving us a Dragon Valor skill :P
I've never merged a fully-built guy before. What happens? Do all his learned and inherited skills go on to the other one? The built one is +DEF/-SPD, and that seemed like his second best IV spread (assuming no shitty bane with your +ATK).
yeah knew it was gonna be ike. wanted axezura, the one i don't have. Been pulling very well for green orbs got me a Vector and GROBIN. decent iv +def - spd and -def +res repectively.
Been a failure at every other color. now I am thinking of fodder off L!ike to give warding breath to my new Grobin
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Yeah, all the skills transfer over with their learned/unlearned state. The only thing lost is any unspent SP on the disappearing character.
Though I would consider not merging, because he's the only source of ward dragons and getting a dragon team with that going will be disgusting.
Yes, this. Just make sure to spend any SP before the merge (even if it's on skills you won't use) since you'll lose it. If I'm ever going to merge someone who has a lot of SP, I'll usually inherit a bunch of random utility skills onto them like Wings of Mercy, Escape Route, Hone/Fortify skills, healing specials like Sol, different movement assist skills (Swap/Draw Back), etc just to use up as much of the SP as I can (usually give up when they're under 75 SP). Then I have those there if I ever want to do something fancy with that hero in the future for a GHB or something. This is of course assuming you have a bunch of fodder cluttering up your barracks :P
And I mean, it depends I guess. If you've already highly invested into the other Robin, it sucks to lose that investment (especially if you've already inherited expensive skills like Aether). Ward Dragons is great and all, but you already get an absurd amount of defense from the weapon refine and Steady Breath :P
Yeah, all the skills transfer over with their learned/unlearned state. The only thing lost is any unspent SP on the disappearing character.
Though I would consider not merging, because he's the only source of ward dragons and getting a dragon team with that going will be disgusting.
Why wouldn't I just put him on my dragon team then?
I wish there was a feature where you could throw two of your own teams into an arena and let 'em auto-battle it out. Costs no stam, no rewards/xp/sp. Just sparring. That's the training tower I really want.
Yeah, all the skills transfer over with their learned/unlearned state. The only thing lost is any unspent SP on the disappearing character.
Though I would consider not merging, because he's the only source of ward dragons and getting a dragon team with that going will be disgusting.
Why wouldn't I just put him on my dragon team then?
I wish there was a feature where you could throw two of your own teams into an arena and let 'em auto-battle it out. Costs no stam, no rewards/xp/sp. Just sparring. That's the training tower I really want.
That would be amazing. I'd love to see how my Arena Defense team performs against different scenarios.
So let's say I wanted to feed Ward Dragons... Adult Tiki or Nowi?
IMO, tiki, since her def is already good enough-ish. Unless you want to try to get her to somehow survive deidre or something
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Tiki not only survives Deidre/Julia, but she kills them both in return.
Ah, I thought she only had like 25 res. (I don't actually use A tiki)
24 Res neutral. The budget fury build boosts it up to 27 and allows Tiki to win. Refined lightning breath boosts her HP up enough to survive the hit, opens up the possibility to upgrade a stat of your choice, and the real kicker is the ability to target Deidre/Julia's nonexistent DEF stats.
Both will rip an absolutely huge chunk out of Tiki, but she's just a bit too bulky to go down from one hit from 100%, and then neither of the mages can withstand a strong attack to their DEF stat when at a color disadvantage.
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Looking at it closer now, in a vacuum, it's a bit of a tossup considering what boons and banes are in play and what team buffs are setup. I'd give the advantage to Tiki by a hair most of the time.
Why wouldn't I just put him on my dragon team then?
Well presumably you would put him on your dragon team, and with another unit with ward dragons, the other two would have +8 defense/res, and GRobin and the inherited unit would each have +4.
And I mean, it depends I guess. If you've already highly invested into the other Robin, it sucks to lose that investment (especially if you've already inherited expensive skills like Aether). Ward Dragons is great and all, but you already get an absurd amount of defense from the weapon refine and Steady Breath :P
Yeah, you definitely have to weigh the lost costs. I'm sitting on a bunch of feathers and some 4* Chroms, so aether doesn't seem like that big of a loss to me vs. the scarcity of orbs, but if you're not that enthusiastic about going hard on dragon emblem or have Steady Breath fodder (unlike me ) or expect to pull more on green or are willing to wait to get another GRobin off-banner/legendary banner or wait for another unit to come out with ward dragons etc. you may prefer to just merge, which afterall is always a nice little bonus.
Why wouldn't I just put him on my dragon team then?
Well presumably you would put him on your dragon team, and with another unit with ward dragons, the other two would have +8 defense/res, and GRobin and the inherited unit would each have +4.
And I mean, it depends I guess. If you've already highly invested into the other Robin, it sucks to lose that investment (especially if you've already inherited expensive skills like Aether). Ward Dragons is great and all, but you already get an absurd amount of defense from the weapon refine and Steady Breath :P
Yeah, you definitely have to weigh the lost costs. I'm sitting on a bunch of feathers and some 4* Chroms, so aether doesn't seem like that big of a loss to me vs. the scarcity of orbs, but if you're not that enthusiastic about going hard on dragon emblem or don't have Steady Breath fodder ( me ) or expect to pull more on green or are willing to wait to get another GRobin off-banner/legendary banner or wait for another unit to come out with ward dragons etc. you may prefer to just merge, which afterall is always a nice little bonus.
Yeah, I mixed up my phrasing there, not having Steady Breath makes inheriting Ward Dragons more appealing, just as Warlock mentions refined breaths + Steady Breath make ward less necessary.
If anyone is struggling with SP farming, now's a good time to hand out those blessings. Blessing quests coming soon, and that new mode next month. Pull the trigger!!
If anyone is struggling with SP farming, now's a good time to hand out those blessings. Blessing quests coming soon, and that new mode next month. Pull the trigger!!
The new mode is the reason why you should wait and see!
If anyone is struggling with SP farming, now's a good time to hand out those blessings. Blessing quests coming soon, and that new mode next month. Pull the trigger!!
But who do i give it to? so many options also should all one blessing go to one premade group? or should you have 1 of each for them? should you give blessing such that they work with the corresponding legendary hero? my choice paralysis is in over drive on this one.
Whoops I fell on my wallet and out popped 3 more Grima's and a Hardin.
None of them the beloved Attack Superboon, but I did get a -HP/+Res one that's an upgrade from my +SPD one so good enough.
Hardin rolled -HP/+Defense and he is a monster.
Turtle emblem is COMPLETE. Just waiting for my boy Roy to feed Warding Breath to one of them.
(And yes Turtle Emblem is so good oh jeez, only Valentines Hector has less than 30 Res and I could swap him out with Normal Hector for counter damage, OR, Sheena since she is a wall, OR, Santa Elise who is also a BST monster and also has over 30 Res. Had a Miciah, who has a boost against armor units, attack my Grima for a WHOPPING 15 damage and he killed her to death next turn.)
Whoops I fell on my wallet and out popped 3 more Grima's and a Hardin.
None of them the beloved Attack Superboon, but I did get a -HP/+Res one that's an upgrade from my +SPD one so good enough.
Hardin rolled -HP/+Defense and he is a monster.
Turtle emblem is COMPLETE. Just waiting for my boy Roy to feed Warding Breath to one of them.
(And yes Turtle Emblem is so good oh jeez, only Valentines Hector has less than 30 Res and I could swap him out with Normal Hector for counter damage, OR, Sheena since she is a wall, OR, Santa Elise who is also a BST monster and also has over 30 Res. Had a Miciah, who has a boost against armor units, attack my Grima for a WHOPPING 15 damage and he killed her to death next turn.)
Yeah... My turtle emblem is pretty great too. First time I've gotten more than one defense win (and I usually get none). Right now it's V!Hector, W!THarja, V!Lyn (until I can scare up a Distant Counter for Effie), and Grima. Ooof. Nothing gets through and everything dies.
Oh goddam it. I wasted 20k feathers (and some random crystals) intending to get aether of a spare chrom. But I did it to marth instead, who has no actually useful SI skills
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It's basically built to require Wrys emblem.
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Ahahaha the Takumi battle is hilarious. I managed to get Flier Emblem through the first two difficulties, but something tells me I'll need a different strategy for Infernal.
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I went with Fury/Armored Boots, as I've put him on my dragon team (though I gave him Ward Armor as well, naturally). Distant Def protects against unrefined Julia but Deirdre cuts through his buffs. Close Def does nothing for his b/g/c matchups, and I don't see a reason to have him duel red units when I could just use Nowi.
I'm glad Ike won, but it was a lot closer than I expected.
Axezura would have been better.
Also, I feel like I could use another dancer than Ike, too.
Well, if you don't like armored units, then I'd think the only unit you'd possibly want is Evil Celica (Evilica?) since she's not armored. Her B skill looks pretty cool, but probably depends on what sword units you have, and her stats are decent(I think?) all around, but not amazing.
I think if you attack and one shot you don't get the hp loss, but if you get attacked at all even for 0 damage you lose HP
also speed drain only seems to affect the person on the other team with the highest speed not everyone (at least in lower tiers of the skill)
Her weapon is the same as Summer Robin. It's Fury if at full health. If you do any attack, you take damage that combat.
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Yeah this. She basically only gets the buff on the first attack, unless you heal her up to full or she's damaged before being able to attack (in which case she never gets it :P). The tricky thing is that she should probably want to run Renewal in that case, but then that means she gives up her special B slot -7 speed skill
Also, note to self. Yes, Grima Robin has a lot of res. That doesn't mean I should just be careless and pick training tower maps with green tomes. Amazing to find both Julia and Deirdre almost back to back, but luckily low enough level to not have their Naga tomes yet... Phew...
Edit: Also I pulled another one, this time +ATK/-HP. Now wat do?!
Twitch: akThera
Steam: Thera
+ATK is a super boon (and -HP is not too bad of a bane). Use that sucker
Also thanks for the tip. I may have to try that tonight. My Grima needs a bunch of SP thanks to IS not giving us a Dragon Valor skill :P
I've never merged a fully-built guy before. What happens? Do all his learned and inherited skills go on to the other one? The built one is +DEF/-SPD, and that seemed like his second best IV spread (assuming no shitty bane with your +ATK).
Twitch: akThera
Steam: Thera
Though I would consider not merging, because he's the only source of ward dragons and getting a dragon team with that going will be disgusting.
Been a failure at every other color. now I am thinking of fodder off L!ike to give warding breath to my new Grobin
Yes, this. Just make sure to spend any SP before the merge (even if it's on skills you won't use) since you'll lose it. If I'm ever going to merge someone who has a lot of SP, I'll usually inherit a bunch of random utility skills onto them like Wings of Mercy, Escape Route, Hone/Fortify skills, healing specials like Sol, different movement assist skills (Swap/Draw Back), etc just to use up as much of the SP as I can (usually give up when they're under 75 SP). Then I have those there if I ever want to do something fancy with that hero in the future for a GHB or something. This is of course assuming you have a bunch of fodder cluttering up your barracks :P
And I mean, it depends I guess. If you've already highly invested into the other Robin, it sucks to lose that investment (especially if you've already inherited expensive skills like Aether). Ward Dragons is great and all, but you already get an absurd amount of defense from the weapon refine and Steady Breath :P
Why wouldn't I just put him on my dragon team then?
I wish there was a feature where you could throw two of your own teams into an arena and let 'em auto-battle it out. Costs no stam, no rewards/xp/sp. Just sparring. That's the training tower I really want.
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Steam: Thera
That would be amazing. I'd love to see how my Arena Defense team performs against different scenarios.
Twitch: akThera
Steam: Thera
IMO, tiki, since her def is already good enough-ish. Unless you want to try to get her to somehow survive deidre or something
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Tiki not only survives Deidre/Julia, but she kills them both in return.
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Ah, I thought she only had like 25 res. (I don't actually use A tiki)
So Tiki then?
Twitch: akThera
Steam: Thera
24 Res neutral. The budget fury build boosts it up to 27 and allows Tiki to win. Refined lightning breath boosts her HP up enough to survive the hit, opens up the possibility to upgrade a stat of your choice, and the real kicker is the ability to target Deidre/Julia's nonexistent DEF stats.
Both will rip an absolutely huge chunk out of Tiki, but she's just a bit too bulky to go down from one hit from 100%, and then neither of the mages can withstand a strong attack to their DEF stat when at a color disadvantage.
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Looking at it closer now, in a vacuum, it's a bit of a tossup considering what boons and banes are in play and what team buffs are setup. I'd give the advantage to Tiki by a hair most of the time.
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Well presumably you would put him on your dragon team, and with another unit with ward dragons, the other two would have +8 defense/res, and GRobin and the inherited unit would each have +4.
Yeah, you definitely have to weigh the lost costs. I'm sitting on a bunch of feathers and some 4* Chroms, so aether doesn't seem like that big of a loss to me vs. the scarcity of orbs, but if you're not that enthusiastic about going hard on dragon emblem or have Steady Breath fodder (unlike me
I have no Steady Breath either.
Twitch: akThera
Steam: Thera
Yeah, I mixed up my phrasing there, not having Steady Breath makes inheriting Ward Dragons more appealing, just as Warlock mentions refined breaths + Steady Breath make ward less necessary.
The new mode is the reason why you should wait and see!
But who do i give it to? so many options also should all one blessing go to one premade group? or should you have 1 of each for them? should you give blessing such that they work with the corresponding legendary hero? my choice paralysis is in over drive on this one.
None of them the beloved Attack Superboon, but I did get a -HP/+Res one that's an upgrade from my +SPD one so good enough.
Hardin rolled -HP/+Defense and he is a monster.
Turtle emblem is COMPLETE. Just waiting for my boy Roy to feed Warding Breath to one of them.
(And yes Turtle Emblem is so good oh jeez, only Valentines Hector has less than 30 Res and I could swap him out with Normal Hector for counter damage, OR, Sheena since she is a wall, OR, Santa Elise who is also a BST monster and also has over 30 Res. Had a Miciah, who has a boost against armor units, attack my Grima for a WHOPPING 15 damage and he killed her to death next turn.)
Yeah... My turtle emblem is pretty great too. First time I've gotten more than one defense win (and I usually get none). Right now it's V!Hector, W!THarja, V!Lyn (until I can scare up a Distant Counter for Effie), and Grima. Ooof. Nothing gets through and everything dies.
Twitch: akThera
Steam: Thera
It's basically built to require Wrys emblem.
--Mark Twain
And of course cancel affinity is in play.
3DS: 0473-8507-2652
Switch: SW-5185-4991-5118
PSN: AbEntropy