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[Infinity] Holy shit it took us seven years to get to 100 pages, but we did it!

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    timhodgetimhodge AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Awesome, thanks. Is there a comprehensive (fluff) wiki or similar? I know there's http://infinitythewiki.com, but it seems to be all rules stuff? Like, searching for "zondcat" returns no results.

    I gather there's an Outrage GN, do the peoples enjoy that?

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    No. They keep fluff as one of the main reasons to buy the books, so you're not going to find much published online.

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    timhodgetimhodge AustraliaRegistered User regular
    It is weird that the fandom isn't doing their own documentation! But thanks for the info.

    0877-0596-8498 | Swirlix, Dedenne, Floette
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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    timhodge wrote: »
    Awesome, thanks. Is there a comprehensive (fluff) wiki or similar? I know there's http://infinitythewiki.com, but it seems to be all rules stuff? Like, searching for "zondcat" returns no results.

    I gather there's an Outrage GN, do the peoples enjoy that?

    It was a decent story, nothing spectacular. I think it does kind of overplay just what one badass sniper should be able to achieve in a competent, futuristic setting. XD

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    I really enjoyed Outrage. It’s got pacing issues but overall it was a fun read. But it does use my favourite unit as the bad guys so I’m a bit biased.

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    LanlaornLanlaorn Registered User regular
    Outrage was a fun read, they made miniatures of all the protagonists and the main antagonist, I kind of wish they'd add rules to all of them even if they aren't very good, lol, I'd just like to use them if I ever actually get a game in.

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited January 2018
    At LVO they said the Outrage characters would be getting a non aligned sectorial.

    Though they’re going to need a few more minis like Stallion Jack, and probably remotes to pad out the list.

    -Loki- on
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    Redcoat-13Redcoat-13 Registered User regular
    I'll note with that Zondcat from the Tomcat box, I cannot for the life of me, get its tail to stay on. There seems to be a cut-off point with regards how Infinity models are designed and how easy they are to put together (although you still get the odd one nowadays that proves to be a massive pain).

    Outrage was an enjoyable read; I wasn't too enthralled with the models that came out; I don't know if that was down to the painjob, or them having a slightly different style to the normal range (the Dogface stands out).

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    timhodgetimhodge AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Thanks all. Can't see myself actually playing, but if I can find any of the minis locally I might check a couple out. HOW HARD CAN ASSEMBLING AND PAINTING MINIATURES BE RIGHT

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    The newer models are not hard to assemble, at least. They have keyed joins that makes the vast majority of them very easy to assemble. There's some outliers (fuck you Tuareg sniper you can stay in bits) but for the most part are relatively easy.

    Painting them, well. They're considered some of the best sci fi minis on the market. Lots of intricate detail. Commission painters regularly get pissed off when they get big lots of Infinity models. So... yeah.

    Regarding the Outrage models, they're a mixed bag. Emily is overall nice but has some weirdass eyebrows. Domovoi looks like the Michelin Man. Just really odd. Nakadai is like a love letter to second edition. Uhahu is really good. Beba is nice if you like super cheesecake models. Jethro looks great except the head. I've seen a conversion where someone put a Druze head on him and he looks a million times better.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Hey so anyone else been watching all the things CB has been dropping about some upcoming JSA changes, but fluff stuff and probably game stuff? I'm hoping it's some good stuff!

    Speaking of JSA, I've got a game next week with a friend of mine and I haven't played in a while, so I thought I'd drop my lists here for some second opinions? We're bringing two lists each and then randomly choosing one of four missions (I forget the list, but they're all special operations missions). Not sure yet what faction he's playing but he should be letting me know when he decides since he knows I'm on JSA (He's got CA, Haqq, YJ and PanO)


    List 1 is a HI Link, with Spitfire and Missile launcher, and support from A Ninja hacker, Raiden HML and a Rui Shi. The Link team runs area control, with the Ninja to protect them from enemy hackers, while the specalists (doc, medic, FO, Yuriko, Kempei) push any buttons.
    logo_203.png SO HI Link
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    GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10 orden_impetuosa.png3
    logo_2.pngKEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    logo_11.pngTOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    logo_4.pngRAIDEN (Minelayer, X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 21)
    logo_6.pngDOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW. (2 | 38)
    logo_7.pngHARAMAKI Blitzen, Light Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 24)
    logo_7.pngHARAMAKI Missile Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 33)
    logo_7.pngHARAMAKI Blitzen, Contender / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 22)
    logo_18.pngYÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    logo_26.pngYURIKO ODA Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24)
    logo_22.pngOYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28)
    logo_1.pngKEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png3
    logo_1.pngKEISOTSU Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    logo_9.pngNINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
    logo_12.pngRUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    List two has my Biker trio, plus Shinobu, a Spitfire Domaru and REM pair. The bikes can go fast and hard for mid-table objectives, while the REMs can drop into area control and Shinobu can do her thing.
    logo_203.png SO Biker list
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    GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png9 orden_irregular.png1 orden_impetuosa.png3
    logo_3.pngARAGOTO Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30)
    logo_20.pngASUKA KISARAGI Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    logo_25.pngYOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21)
    logo_2.pngKEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    logo_4.pngRAIDEN (Minelayer, X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 21)
    logo_12.pngRUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    logo_21.pngSHINOBU Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0.5 | 47)
    logo_6.pngDOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW. (2 | 38)
    logo_11.pngTOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    logo_11.pngTOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    logo_18.pngYÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png3
    logo_1.pngKEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    logo_1.pngKEISOTSU Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    logo_13.pngLÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    How did I miss this?

    For the first list, looks pretty good. Basically what I would take if I played JSA.

    Second list, well, hope you don't run into an abundance of Intruders is all I'm saying!

    I did see a leaked photo online about new sexy JSA stuff mind...

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    Dr_KeenbeanDr_Keenbean Dumb as a butt Planet Express ShipRegistered User regular
    Dumb weeb crap with cat ears.

    Gimme dat ramah taskforce sectorial already.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I like the weeb stuff

    But yeah I want RTF as well!

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    Redcoat-13Redcoat-13 Registered User regular
    Is it just the art and a list of what is in the box that has been leaked? Or are there some pictures of the models?

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    How did I miss this?

    For the first list, looks pretty good. Basically what I would take if I played JSA.

    Second list, well, hope you don't run into an abundance of Intruders is all I'm saying!

    I did see a leaked photo online about new sexy JSA stuff mind...

    Had to cancel the game as my friend is too bogged down at work :( He's apparently going to be playing a Bakunin list though!

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    also new JSA stuff has me so excited!! I hope it's some good stuff and fills some holes in the JSA lineup atm

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    How did I miss this?

    For the first list, looks pretty good. Basically what I would take if I played JSA.

    Second list, well, hope you don't run into an abundance of Intruders is all I'm saying!

    I did see a leaked photo online about new sexy JSA stuff mind...

    Had to cancel the game as my friend is too bogged down at work :( He's apparently going to be playing a Bakunin list though!

    Ah, the true heroes.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Bakunin are so bullshit these days

    Ever since they made the Holy Trinity of Kusinagi (Spitfire, obvs) with a Custodier HD+ and a Healer legal, it's just been a laugh making lists for them

    Like, this is crazy. 16 orders and I've got some serious shit in here!

    logo_503.png Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 15)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 11)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    logo_23.pngKUSANAGI Lieutenant Spitfire / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 43)
    logo_3.pngREVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    logo_4.pngREVEREND HEALER Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 32)
    logo_19.pngTSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31)
    logo_9.pngZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)

    GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png4 orden_irregular.png2 orden_impetuosa.png2
    logo_25.pngZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47)
    sep.giflogo_25.pngZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    sep.giflogo_25_2.pngPI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)
    logo_22.pngSALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    logo_10.pngMORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    logo_10.pngMORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    logo_18.pngTRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Of course then if you want to mix it up, you can take a fifteen order list with a 5 woman heavy infantry link

    logo_503.png Jurisdictional Command of Bakunin
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    GROUP 1sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png10
    logo_7.pngRIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    logo_7.pngRIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    logo_7.pngRIOT GRRL MULTI Rifle, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    logo_7.pngRIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    logo_7.pngRIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    logo_2.pngREVEREND MOIRA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    logo_13.pngDAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    logo_12.pngCLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    logo_9.pngZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    GROUP 2sep.gifsep.giforden_regular.png3 orden_irregular.png2 orden_impetuosa.png2
    logo_14.pngSTEMPLER ZOND Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    logo_10.pngMORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    logo_10.pngMORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 6)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)
    logo_1.pngMODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    lolll

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Yeah, part of my love for Bakunin these days is that they’ve got a bunch of options at different price ranges and almost none of them adhere to the ‘standard’ unit of that type/point range.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I mean some of them are straight bullshit.

    Like the Custodier. People are just like "oooh a nasty hacker"

    And then on my turn I just use her to clean people out. ODD and she can put down White Noise if you have MSV? Fuck yes

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    this is why I like playing with Shinobu so much

    crunching a big target first turn before they can do any damage is so damn relevant at times

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    Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Anzekay wrote: »
    this is why I like playing with Shinobu so much

    crunching a big target first turn before they can do any damage is so damn relevant at times

    Big target in this case is only 30 points for the custodier.

    And you can't really Shinobu the trinity link because odds are you won't get all 3 in base to base to martial arts 5 them. There's a reason it's rocketed Bakunin up, it's incredibly versatile and pretty resilient.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Shinobu has a pretty good chance of taking out 1-2 of them, though, and probably dying in the process, but maybe not. Like, she could chuck smoke on them, and then move through the team.

    Thing is, she's like 50pts so it's pretty legit that she's that deadly

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Yeah dropping smoke on them would be my big plan, do any of the trinity link have MSV?

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    No they do not, and they are not good in CC either, though they have decent PH, so you'd want to avoid putting the template directly on them, they might dodge out of it even at -3

    Typical Haris in that sense, tbh

    If I was facing JSA I'd assume an Oniwaban and make sure that I had some Morlocks nearby to attempt to cover them.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Honestly having people bunch up their squad is something I love to see as JSA, makes sweeping them up in a mid-game push a lot easier

    I think that's why I like Shinobu so much, against someone who doesn't prep for her properly you can take out some major targets first turn

    and then if they do take precautions it's usually at the loss of something else instead that I can capitalise on

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I always spread my links out to an extent, and then try to cover them to the front with skirmishers and warbands

    Like, have the Haris in a building, have the exits covered by Morlocks and a Zero up front who might cause some trouble with mines and that

    BJC don't have any MSV2 so they mostly deal with TO Camo through templates. But Shinobu is very good, she'll almost certain kill something, maybe a couple of things, before she goes down. If you go second, it's basically prepare to have lost a heavy hitter by the end of their first turn tbh.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    I'm excited to see what this update for JSA has in store

    really really excited

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Banzai motherfuckers!

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Those are some very nice minis

    Love the spec-ops guy a lot actually, very cool

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    yeah the spec-ops is rad, kinda want to pre-order just for that now

    also the anime references are off the chart here! but they look great

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    DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    So are JSA splitting off from Yu Jing? How does that work?

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    they'll be a part of the new Non-aligned powers, which is going to be getting a new book alongside this new JSA pack!

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    DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    so if i have a bunch of jsa stuff in a vanilla YJ force is that still playable?

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    I wonder if the new JSA army list will have adjusted profiles for any of the existing models?

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Who the fuck knows? Maybe.

    To both questions

    But I would say that if you get the new JSA box, I reckon that'll be way more interesting to play than regular ol' J Sectoral A

    And, plus, I expect to see the Invincible Army this year. New YJ stuff in that sense.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    yeah if the JSA leave YJ entirely I suspect they'll add some new stuff to make up for it

    not that many of the JSA units are often used in vanilla YJ, but I'm sure the Invincibles will add enough to make up for those ones

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