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PbF Unicornus Knights - Are you a bad enough dude to escort the princess?

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Sorry all. Best of luck. (I wish this was for something as comparatively unimportant as finals, heh.)
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    FYI, y'all - heading out of town tomorrow for a week of meetings. I'll be a little sporadic in my checkins.

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    Her father would want her counsel to be educated on FEMA procedure to better prep for disaster response!

    Okay, probably not.

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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    I'm going to need some resources and a couple troops to move next turn, but for now its this.

    Godfried's Turn
    Resources 2 Troops 0
    1. Gather Resources
    2. Gather Resources
    3. Draw Support Card.

    Resources 4 Troops 0


    Let's Try to get the Princess and Zyne on the edge of the Undead Field and ready to push up and kill Ravinith.
    We need to make sure someone is in the Undead fields, even if we decide to push against Exahr so that we can choose which way Marianne goes so she doesn't draw 12 troops from Exahr's town on her march south.
    Going Ravinth way, she only gets 7 troops and we got 2~ turns before we need to worry about engaging her, and we can possible engage from the mountains north/north-east of Ravinith.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    So, you actually want me to enter Fields of Woe right? Meaning, drop in on those soldiers one past the mountains NW of me?

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    I wouldn't. You'll get zerged and then they'll all respawn

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    If /when we enter the undead area, we either occupy almost all of it in one turn or we directly kill the necromancer girl. The alternative is horde of extra combat for no gain at all. If you have a decent army, it's ok to park just outside, 2/4 troops shouldn't bother you at all, but entering will have the hordes converge on you.

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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Yea park in the dragon mountains just south of the undead fields. You'll weather a defense in the mountains and we'll be set up for next turn to make a line drive to Ravinith, or at least set the path for the princess to seal the deal.

    We need to make sure to give her enough to move to the edge without stepping in Rav or Exahr's domains.

    Of course i dont know how we deal with next turn's illness. Is there a separate pool we have to set aside resources for the illness, or is it as soon as she gets 10, she consumes them no matter what? Because we would rather her be sick and we make the drive for Rav and then I heal her.

    Keep in mind there are 3 troops next to josephene as well in the path of the princess

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    I'll leave the 3 troops to the princess. She'll only lose 1 troop and I have to send at least 1 with the resources.

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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    Ok. Just pointing it out for everyone.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    I wouldn't. You'll get zerged and then they'll all respawn

    Oh son of a.... I missed the "respawns soldiers everywhere" part.

    Sitting on the edge then, they are still getting to attack me and respawn whomever I kill.

    Given we have to drive through towards Rav, shouldn't we get someone lined up the forest hex 2 south of Rav? If Gato is going for Exahr, then I'd probably need to park in that spot sooner rather than later so I can make the push for Rav and not just eat soldier attacks that respawn while still needing to move farther.

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Dragon and princess should be in the 2 forest areas next to the undead. Zyne in one of the border mountain. That way we have 3 tries (2 with dragon, 1 with Zyne) to kill the necromancer next turn, than princess come up behind and clean up on straggling dead.

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    @Elvenshae, I guess

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Thanks for the batsignal!

    I move NW 1 space to the one marked “Stronghold” - Fate me, @MrBody !

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Great! exactly aganist all our plans...

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    No?

    We need to get rid of the Chancellor. The ice guy is in the way.

    Also, I said I was going to do this, and no one said not to.

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Going that way, you attract the female twin on the troops behind the ice guy. She'll get a million troops and how we stop her then?

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    I guess, he can hit the ice guy once and move SW. That will not attract the twin girl. Or just move SW, NW.

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    This turn, no one should stop on the ice guy tile. Next turn, there will be someone neareer on the undead tile, and twin girl will move thoward them, and than we should go freely to fight the money guy. If he can cross the tile and go out the other side it's ok, we will have some more problem to kill the undead girl, but we should make do.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    It's ultimately up to the individual player.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Preda wrote: »
    Going that way, you attract the female twin on the troops behind the ice guy. She'll get a million troops and how we stop her then?

    Teahnically, killing her is optional and if she gets led away to the west towards the Chancellor that's fine too

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Ok, so let's plan long term. How we kill the emperor? We go after a lot of the other heroes, we go for the dark knight or we get tons of troops and grind through him?

    Because if we go after the heroes the twins are definitely some of the easy one to kill, if correctly attacked.

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    I think general plan is to push Princess Stronghold - Lake city - Capitol helping her as much as possible on her way. Gato deals with Chancelor, someone baits twins. Would be nice to have someone clearing her path as well.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited April 2018
    Preda wrote: »
    Ok, so let's plan long term. How we kill the emperor? We go after a lot of the other heroes, we go for the dark knight or we get tons of troops and grind through him?

    Because if we go after the heroes the twins are definitely some of the easy one to kill, if correctly attacked.

    The emperor actually isn't overly strong. First we get someone to move the 6 troops out of the way (or kill them by coordinating the princess to end her turn on one and let the other attack, or kill them directly)

    The emperor will deal 5 + #troops - 2 to the princess who has (ideally) 6 + #troops health. So as long as the emperor has 2 troops over the princess or fewer she just steamrolls him. That means we just need to kill 1-4 troops depending on if the princess takes any health damage, and at that point we can just suicide in

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Preda wrote: »
    Going that way, you attract the female twin

    Yes.
    on the troops behind the ice guy.

    No.
    She'll get a million troops and how we stop her then?

    Nope. She will attack me next turn while I am in a defensive location with a grand total of four troops.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    8 troops. The others will move onto you too

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    8 troops. The others will move onto you too

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    @MrBody - we need a fate card for me and the Ice Dude.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Ice Lord fate
    Bane of the Capital - As long as this character is on the map, the princess will now move towards this character instead of the Capital (highest priority).

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Presumably @Elvenshae gets to finish his move @MrBody ?

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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    Since Elvenshae is going for the IceLord, and now the Princess is as well. Our timetable has been moved up.
    Zyne will need to step into the undead fields so Marianne will stay away from Exahr.

    take the hits to preserve your army if needed, Zyne, because they will come back next turn. I'll heal you.
    I suspect Im gonna be performing triage for Zyne and the Dragonborn.

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    Ice Lord fate
    Bane of the Capital - As long as this character is on the map, the princess will now move towards this character instead of the Capital (highest priority).

    Okay, so that's not good; totally hoses my plans to just park him out of the way and leave him alone for the rest of the game.

    So, just to make sure I understand the rules ... When the princess fights an enemy character, any "dice effects" don't matter - so the Ice Lord's -1 die when fighting him doesn't apply. However, they fight with their health value, not their combat strength, so the Ice Lord counts as 5 damage, not 3 (his combat strength), plus his 6 troops. The Princess is currently at 6 health + 3 troops + 2 DR, so she dies if she runs into him without assistance.

    She has 4 resources, and is going to take 1 step for free this round, towards the Ice Lord; I suggest this should be the mountain to her N, so she can bypass the 4 troops on the road. Then she won't be able to afford the step into the Forest if she gets at least one more soldier this round, so she'll collect 1 resource (possibly multiple times based on how many troops she gets), then step onto the three troops in the forest, taking 1 damage, and then be unable to move into the woods nearer the Ice Lord. It might make sense to let her take the 2 damage from illness next turn to buy us extra time to whittle him down.

    Thoughts?

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    The 4 troops on the road don't exist anymore, they attacked the princess last turn and died. If @Phyphor doesn't move away from the city, the princess will still finish exactly where we want her (on the forest with 3 troops , killing them losing only one troop, unless we kill at least 1 of them before her turn).

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Yeah someone has to take away a troop at least from the ice lord somehow

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Ok, whelp, we gotta get the Ice Lord out of his city so we can handle him in the field without killing ourselves, so I'll continue on with that portion of my plan, at least.

    I play Forged Orders (Choose 1 empire unit on the same area and move it 1 space in any direction).

    I choose the Ice Lord, and move him 1 space SE to the road. Then, I move into the spot he just vacated as my second action. (The original plan was to stick him on the troops to the NW of his original position, thereby clearing out the citadel and effectively eliminating him and his troops and the reinforcements from the game.)

    I draw a card as my third action.

    On the Empire's turn, the 8 troops near me will combine and attack, and I'll defend with 7 dice which is not great but is better than attacking the Ice Lord in the citadel. Any remaining empire troops of the 8 that attack me will retreat to the NW (two groups combined to attack me from N and NW, so we can pick either location for them to retreat to). The Twin will move south into an empty square, gaining no reinforcements, and then attack me in the Stronghold on her next turn. I can hang out here to force the Princess East if that's what we want, or slide out and resume my march to the Chancellor to let the Princess pass by.

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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    ok. thats legit. @Elvenshae

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Grazie. The whole, "Cannot discuss your support cards in any way" rule kinda put a damper on how much I could say.

    I've received my card, so @Phyphor, it's your turn!

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Collect 5 R & a soldier for free

    1. Collect resources
    2. Collect resources
    3. Send ben 3 soldiers and 14R

    @Daemonis

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    @MrBody for support card

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    1. Collect resources (+3)
    2. Recruit soldiers (+1)
    3. Recruit soldiers (+1)

    @cj iwakura

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