Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
My motherboard and processor are AWOL. Last shipping update was Friday morning. Now listed as "Pending" on fedex tracking. Ram is still on the way and tracked.
Has this metal replacement they mention at least been around long enough for some devs to have already ported to it, or did they open it up the same time as announcing this?
Has this metal replacement they mention at least been around long enough for some devs to have already ported to it, or did they open it up the same time as announcing this?
OGL is deprecated so you'll have some time. Metal's been around for about a year or two? There's some OGL->Metal conversion tools cropping up, some are paid though (and only work with a subset of stuff).
Metal is mostly easier for the standard polygon stuff, but will hit you hard for shaders and normals if you're not doing shit right.
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Zxerolfor the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't doso i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered Userregular
With Apple's history of using shit that's practically only ever used on Apple products (I/O, programming languages, APIs), I'm still surprised they actually decided to go whole-hog on USB-C for Macbooks.
Putting in something that everyone else uses that's crazy.
Did the computer boot up properly? Congratulations, your RAM is running right. You can double check by running dxdiag in windows (in win10 open the start menu and then type dxdiag and hit enter, in older windows type it into the Run command line thing) and seeing if it reports less RAM than you installed, if you're worried one of the sticks is dead or something.
The advice I usually hear about BIOS updates is "don't unless you have a specific reason to" but you can check your mobo manufacturer's website for information about your board's model number it if you want.
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
Did the computer boot up properly? Congratulations, your RAM is running right. You can double check by running dxdiag in windows (in win10 open the start menu and then type dxdiag and hit enter, in older windows type it into the Run command line thing) and seeing if it reports less RAM than you installed, if you're worried one of the sticks is dead or something.
The advice I usually hear about BIOS updates is "don't unless you have a specific reason to" but you can check your mobo manufacturer's website for information about your board's model number it if you want.
It did boot! Already got windows installed and putting the graphic drivers on now. Anything else I should be doing?
Did the computer boot up properly? Congratulations, your RAM is running right. You can double check by running dxdiag in windows (in win10 open the start menu and then type dxdiag and hit enter, in older windows type it into the Run command line thing) and seeing if it reports less RAM than you installed, if you're worried one of the sticks is dead or something.
The advice I usually hear about BIOS updates is "don't unless you have a specific reason to" but you can check your mobo manufacturer's website for information about your board's model number it if you want.
It did boot! Already got windows installed and putting the graphic drivers on now. Anything else I should be doing?
Play video games on it.
Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
@timspork's ghost you can use Speccy or CPU-Z to ensure that your RAM is running at the advertised speed. If it isn't, you may need to update your BIOS or adjust X-AMP settings in the BIOS.
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SnicketysnickThe Greatest Hype Man inWesterosRegistered Userregular
Did the computer boot up properly? Congratulations, your RAM is running right. You can double check by running dxdiag in windows (in win10 open the start menu and then type dxdiag and hit enter, in older windows type it into the Run command line thing) and seeing if it reports less RAM than you installed, if you're worried one of the sticks is dead or something.
The advice I usually hear about BIOS updates is "don't unless you have a specific reason to" but you can check your mobo manufacturer's website for information about your board's model number it if you want.
It did boot! Already got windows installed and putting the graphic drivers on now. Anything else I should be doing?
Dab a small amount of blood on the interior frame to ensure proper running in the future.
the new Mac OS, other than the weird gaming thing, actually does look like a decent improvement. they are doing a handful of small quality of life things that actually impact my daily use a lot in a good way
interesting that there was 0 mention of the F-key screen. proooobably not gonna see that shit again in future models
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Jesus Christ, I was tempted to get a Mac for development work but I think I'm sticking with Linux for the time being.
Son of a fuck, "I purchased the USD$5000 base model iMac Pro" - I had to stop watching there. The BASE model starts at USD$5k?!?
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
Wait. I fucked up. I tried to run StoreMI, like someone in the pc building thread recommended and I must have done something wrong. Now it can’t find the hard drives. I am currently trying to use the old ssd from my old computer so I can get into Windows to reformat the new drives and start over with a windows install.
Wait. I fucked up. I tried to run StoreMI, like someone in the pc building thread recommended and I must have done something wrong. Now it can’t find the hard drives. I am currently trying to use the old ssd from my old computer so I can get into Windows to reformat the new drives and start over with a windows install.
if you're trying to do an os install or partition, try disconnecting every drive except for the one you want to install to
Wait. I fucked up. I tried to run StoreMI, like someone in the pc building thread recommended and I must have done something wrong. Now it can’t find the hard drives. I am currently trying to use the old ssd from my old computer so I can get into Windows to reformat the new drives and start over with a windows install.
if you're trying to do an os install or partition, try disconnecting every drive except for the one you want to install to
I tried but it didn’t show up on the windows installer. It is an m.2 drive.
Wait. I fucked up. I tried to run StoreMI, like someone in the pc building thread recommended and I must have done something wrong. Now it can’t find the hard drives. I am currently trying to use the old ssd from my old computer so I can get into Windows to reformat the new drives and start over with a windows install.
if you're trying to do an os install or partition, try disconnecting every drive except for the one you want to install to
I tried but it didn’t show up on the windows installer. It is an m.2 drive.
hmm, make sure that's mounted correctly
I had to re-seat mine and make sure it was firmly braced with the attachment screw, the bracket for it gave a bit of leeway otherwise
Did the computer boot up properly? Congratulations, your RAM is running right. You can double check by running dxdiag in windows (in win10 open the start menu and then type dxdiag and hit enter, in older windows type it into the Run command line thing) and seeing if it reports less RAM than you installed, if you're worried one of the sticks is dead or something.
The advice I usually hear about BIOS updates is "don't unless you have a specific reason to" but you can check your mobo manufacturer's website for information about your board's model number it if you want.
As someone who bricked a computer once doing a bios upgrade I agree. Don't do it unless you have a very good reason. I had to put in a new motherboard to fix mine
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
Wait. I fucked up. I tried to run StoreMI, like someone in the pc building thread recommended and I must have done something wrong. Now it can’t find the hard drives. I am currently trying to use the old ssd from my old computer so I can get into Windows to reformat the new drives and start over with a windows install.
if you're trying to do an os install or partition, try disconnecting every drive except for the one you want to install to
I tried but it didn’t show up on the windows installer. It is an m.2 drive.
hmm, make sure that's mounted correctly
I had to re-seat mine and make sure it was firmly braced with the attachment screw, the bracket for it gave a bit of leeway otherwise
I'll try.
In the windows install program, when I boot from the USB, I can click on drivers and there is an X: drive with what appears to be the files on it but it doesn't appear in the area that I can select it to install windows.
Check the boot order in the BIOS setup menu, if the drives aren't showing up in the list of potential boot devices there the motherboard can't see them at all and you should try disconnecting and reconnecting them to make sure they are plugged in right. If they ARE showing up there and the windows installer still can't see them I'm not sure what to do.
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
Check the boot order in the BIOS setup menu, if the drives aren't showing up in the list of potential boot devices there the motherboard can't see them at all and you should try disconnecting and reconnecting them to make sure they are plugged in right. If they ARE showing up there and the windows installer still can't see them I'm not sure what to do.
how would they get unseated if I never touched them and they worked fine before?
Is there a way to just reformat them? There was nothing on them but the windows install as they were brand new.
Check the boot order in the BIOS setup menu, if the drives aren't showing up in the list of potential boot devices there the motherboard can't see them at all and you should try disconnecting and reconnecting them to make sure they are plugged in right. If they ARE showing up there and the windows installer still can't see them I'm not sure what to do.
Sometimes you have to set the drive to be bootable, not just in boot order.
Check the boot order in the BIOS setup menu, if the drives aren't showing up in the list of potential boot devices there the motherboard can't see them at all and you should try disconnecting and reconnecting them to make sure they are plugged in right. If they ARE showing up there and the windows installer still can't see them I'm not sure what to do.
Sometimes you have to set the drive to be bootable, not just in boot order.
I don't know how to do that. They do show up in the list of bootable drives in the bios, but it is like windows isn't even there anymore and I can't get the installer to see them to reinstall. I have reseated both the M.2 and the HHD.
The Installer says, "Where do you want to install windows?" And the secation but has nothing in it and at the bottom it says it can't find any drives
Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
So while I wait to see some more advice in the PC Builder thread, I have it functioning using the old drives.
The RGB stuff is stupid and cool at the same time.
What is a good pc game to test this thing out with? I ran Battletech, which took forever to load on the old system and the mission started in about two seconds.
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Enough that is has its own wiki!
they saw how bad the gaming situation was on Mac, and decided "let's make it extremely worse"
bold, visionary
"courage"
OGL is deprecated so you'll have some time. Metal's been around for about a year or two? There's some OGL->Metal conversion tools cropping up, some are paid though (and only work with a subset of stuff).
Metal is mostly easier for the standard polygon stuff, but will hit you hard for shaders and normals if you're not doing shit right.
Putting in something that everyone else uses that's crazy.
(Still holding on to Lightning for iphones tho!)
A universal interface to the GPU helps developers port games to multiple platforms while maintaining healthy optimization
they are really trying to build a dam between themselves and PC gaming (for some reason????)
Apple Gaming Console 2020 confirmed.
And that's kind of the problem: Apple doesn't use lightning because it's so great. They use it precisely because no one else does.
It's to optimize battery life on their product lines supposedly.
Or rather so they can sell approved accessories at obscene prices.
Potato Potahto
Now how do I make sure the bios are updated and the ram and stuff is running right?
Jesus Christ, I was tempted to get a Mac for development work but I think I'm sticking with Linux for the time being.
Then just get a normal HDMI monitor or something.
The advice I usually hear about BIOS updates is "don't unless you have a specific reason to" but you can check your mobo manufacturer's website for information about your board's model number it if you want.
It did boot! Already got windows installed and putting the graphic drivers on now. Anything else I should be doing?
Play video games on it.
Dab a small amount of blood on the interior frame to ensure proper running in the future.
D3 Steam #TeamTangent STO
interesting that there was 0 mention of the F-key screen. proooobably not gonna see that shit again in future models
Son of a fuck, "I purchased the USD$5000 base model iMac Pro" - I had to stop watching there. The BASE model starts at USD$5k?!?
if you're trying to do an os install or partition, try disconnecting every drive except for the one you want to install to
I tried but it didn’t show up on the windows installer. It is an m.2 drive.
hmm, make sure that's mounted correctly
I had to re-seat mine and make sure it was firmly braced with the attachment screw, the bracket for it gave a bit of leeway otherwise
As someone who bricked a computer once doing a bios upgrade I agree. Don't do it unless you have a very good reason. I had to put in a new motherboard to fix mine
I'll try.
In the windows install program, when I boot from the USB, I can click on drivers and there is an X: drive with what appears to be the files on it but it doesn't appear in the area that I can select it to install windows.
how would they get unseated if I never touched them and they worked fine before?
Is there a way to just reformat them? There was nothing on them but the windows install as they were brand new.
Sometimes you have to set the drive to be bootable, not just in boot order.
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I don't know how to do that. They do show up in the list of bootable drives in the bios, but it is like windows isn't even there anymore and I can't get the installer to see them to reinstall. I have reseated both the M.2 and the HHD.
The Installer says, "Where do you want to install windows?" And the secation but has nothing in it and at the bottom it says it can't find any drives
The RGB stuff is stupid and cool at the same time.
What is a good pc game to test this thing out with? I ran Battletech, which took forever to load on the old system and the mission started in about two seconds.