Based on a number of shows and movies (and like the entire genre known as Anime), I'd say it all but makes one impervious to attack.
That's why it's so shocking when that guy gets abruptly eaten by the shark in Deep Blue Sea (yes I'm being vague but surely the statute of limitations has run out on a B rate (if that) movie that's nearly 20 years old holy shit it's nearly 20 years old what the fuck?).
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Based on a number of shows and movies (and like the entire genre known as Anime), I'd say it all but makes one impervious to attack.
That's why it's so shocking when that guy gets abruptly eaten by the shark in Deep Blue Sea (yes I'm being vague but surely the statute of limitations has run out on a B rate (if that) movie that's nearly 20 years old holy shit it's nearly 20 years old what the fuck?).
Or when that guy in that Marvel movie is monologuing and is interrupted by that big green guy.
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
I don't recall reading this element, but I remember reading someone once say that the quipping was basically his way of putting enemies off balance, as well as a mechanism to handle the stress of the conflicts he found himself in.
It might not be a universal take on things, but I always liked that stance. Part debuff (as it were), part coping mechanism.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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I'm a little disappointed Drax and Thanos didn't get more interaction, but I guess it would've just been a repeat of the Guardians 1 fight with Ronan.
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
I don't recall reading this element, but I remember reading someone once say that the quipping was basically his way of putting enemies off balance, as well as a mechanism to handle the stress of the conflicts he found himself in.
It might not be a universal take on things, but I always liked that stance. Part debuff (as it were), part coping mechanism.
General rule of thumb: If Spider-Man isn't cracking a joke, then you have severely pissed him right off and he's going full tilt.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
I don't recall reading this element, but I remember reading someone once say that the quipping was basically his way of putting enemies off balance, as well as a mechanism to handle the stress of the conflicts he found himself in.
It might not be a universal take on things, but I always liked that stance. Part debuff (as it were), part coping mechanism.
General rule of thumb: If Spider-Man isn't cracking a joke, then you have severely pissed him right off and he's going full tilt.
Or, you know, Doc Ock's up to his old antics again
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
I don't recall reading this element, but I remember reading someone once say that the quipping was basically his way of putting enemies off balance, as well as a mechanism to handle the stress of the conflicts he found himself in.
It might not be a universal take on things, but I always liked that stance. Part debuff (as it were), part coping mechanism.
General rule of thumb: If Spider-Man isn't cracking a joke, then you have severely pissed him right off and he's going full tilt.
I'm reminded of an old Spider-Man comic I read as a kid where he was fighting (one of them) Hobgoblin and was real tired of him and stopped with the quips, he wasn't even talking. He just beat on him a whole goddamn bunch.
I haven't read it yet, but I've heard there's a section of Superior Spider-Man where (is it even a spoiler who? It's the premise of the series...) *someone* from his rogue's gallery ends up in control of Spider-Man (like, in his head) and marvels at how much restraint he'd shown over the years. That he could've just ended any number of them, and easily, countless times in the past.
I really should look into a trade paperback of that, unless someone notes that I shouldn't because it was hot bullshit or something.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
I haven't read it yet, but I've heard there's a section of Superior Spider-Man where (is it even a spoiler who? It's the premise of the series...) *someone* from his rogue's gallery ends up in control of Spider-Man (like, in his head) and marvels at how much restraint he'd shown over the years. That he could've just ended any number of them, and easily, countless times in the past.
I really should look into a trade paperback of that, unless someone notes that I shouldn't because it was hot bullshit or something.
I loved superior spidey. Falters a bit in spots but otherwise is filled with great moments
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
The other night, a bro and I were discussing something fascinating about Spider-Man.
Y'all ever notice how everyone Spider-Man fights, be they mugger or supervillain, immediately defaults to Ultramurder Spider-Man Mode the second he shows up?
Like, this guy has been dealing with people trying their absolute hardest to kill him since he was sixteen. Never once are these guys like 'cheese it, it's the Spider-Man,' or 'just distract him and scram.'
No, these people will go from quietly burgling, to KILL EVERYONE the second Pete shows up. They will go out of their way to kill this guy, long after they've escaped or been foiled.
Quipping while attacking though clearly has a limit, as Spider-Man shows.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
To be fair, he was quipping, portalling, AND attacking
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
The other night, a bro and I were discussing something fascinating about Spider-Man.
Y'all ever notice how everyone Spider-Man fights, be they mugger or supervillain, immediately defaults to Ultramurder Spider-Man Mode the second he shows up?
Like, this guy has been dealing with people trying their absolute hardest to kill him since he was sixteen. Never once are these guys like 'cheese it, it's the Spider-Man,' or 'just distract him and scram.'
No, these people will go from quietly burgling, to KILL EVERYONE the second Pete shows up. They will go out of their way to kill this guy, long after they've escaped or been foiled.
And he's just, like... whatevs, this is my jam.
Damn, son.
I think the appearance of a masked hero tends to escalate tension and makes the bad guys go into "this guy can take it" mode, especially since many of them are probably unaware of his age at first. I love the moments in Spiderman 1, 2, and to a lesser extent, Homecoming, when the villain first realizes, "Crap. This jerk I've been trying to kill is just a kid. And a pretty likable one, too."
Spider-Man as a ridiculously experienced "I've fought everyone, regularly, and been punched, shot at, exploded etc on a constant basis for my entire adult life" superhero is where he should be now.
Like, if you think about it, he's absolutely a hardened combatant, I wish they showed that more. Not in him being brutal or anything, just someone laser-ing him through a wall or whatever, and another hero is like "doesn't that hurt?" And Spidey's all "yeah, loads, but whatever I guess"
Spider-Man as a ridiculously experienced "I've fought everyone, regularly, and been punched, shot at, exploded etc on a constant basis for my entire adult life" superhero is where he should be now.
Like, if you think about it, he's absolutely a hardened combatant, I wish they showed that more. Not in him being brutal or anything, just someone laser-ing him through a wall or whatever, and another hero is like "doesn't that hurt?" And Spidey's all "yeah, loads, but whatever I guess"
"It makes me nostalgic because it reminds me of that one time when..."
I haven't read it yet, but I've heard there's a section of Superior Spider-Man where (is it even a spoiler who? It's the premise of the series...) *someone* from his rogue's gallery ends up in control of Spider-Man (like, in his head) and marvels at how much restraint he'd shown over the years. That he could've just ended any number of them, and easily, countless times in the past.
I really should look into a trade paperback of that, unless someone notes that I shouldn't because it was hot bullshit or something.
You really, really should read it all the way through. It's up and down, but the ending, and the return has possibly the single best "Oh shit" moment from a villian.
Some of those who were ashed do not follow the rules that Thanos laid out namely, half of every race.
Peter Quill is half-human/half celestial and is nominally the only person of his race.
Peter Parker is a Human/Spider Mutation and is nominally the only person of his race.
Drax's people were already reaped by Thanos so he should be immune.
So, based upon his rules, they should have been immune.
I'm pretty sure Thanos only says half of everybody. But he doesn't lay out a specific time frame. If he failed to specify "Everyone living right now, except people from those planets who I've already wiped out half or more of their population..." then it could still affect people who's planets Thanos already visited.
Quill, being half human and half celestial belongs to both those races, so his chances of getting snapped are doubled. (Please note, I'm not a mathematician, I don't know if that's the way the numbers/odds actually work out or not and to be honest I don't care if there's a goat behind door number 3). We don't know that Ego was the last of the Celestials either. It's entirely possible there is an uncounted population of them living out there in the dark between the stars, beyond the edge of the galaxy, or living unnoticed among the assorted sapient species of the universe. If that's the case, then it would follow logically that there could be other halfbreeds just like Quill, possibly even a number of half siblings that Ego hadn't gotten around to harvesting yet, or their descendants if Ego forgot them and left them to grow up and raise families of their own.
Parker, being half human and half spider... well, see above. Lots of spiders out there who likely got snapped because Thanos wasn't too good at thinking. Probably less chance of additional half human/ half spider mutations though (spider-man spinoffs, duplicates, copies, clones and assorted other spider folk in the comics not withstanding).
Really, it's entirely possible that when the Snap occurred, whatever motivating/driving force was responsible just counted up all life in the galaxy into the same big number, then divided by two. We don't know, and don't really need to know for the story to be told.
We know for a fact that his intended goal is to halve every race not all of sentient life. He said Gamora's people lived in a utopia because of what he did and he intends to look at the sunset while the universe benefits from the same process he used on Gamora's people. Indiscriminately halving the universe would not achieve his stated goal. If only 10% of people on a given planet were ashed, it would not create the utopic (word?) state he desires. Killing too much of a race would have dire consequences on genetic stability and overall viability as a species.
By the time that Thanos pulls off the Snap, he has all 6 gems. This means that he has an AI from the Mind Stone backed with unlimited processing power from the Power Gem, unlimited processing speed from the Time Gem, unlimited range thanks to the Space Gem, unlimited ability to track all sentients ensuring no one escapes from the Soul Stone, and unlimited ability to erase even powerful beings thanks to the Reality Stone. All of them functioning together could track every sentient in the galaxy, categorize them by race, determine the state of their race, and eliminate them as necessary.
The phrase half-human half whatever is just a stand in term for whatever race they become like Mule. Being half of one and half of another, wouldn't double your chances because you are a unique race. Any Half-celestial, half whatever would not count as being half-human, half celestial.
As for Spider-man, he is legit the most dangerous man on Marvel Earth. All of his powers build off each other and combine to make him more than the sum of his parts. Superhuman speed + Superhuman Agility + Superhuman Reflexes + Spider-Sense allow him to literally dance around most foes untouched. Combined that with his high-intelligence and superhuman strength and durability, you make for an unbeatable combination. If he had a Wolverine-style healing factor, he would be practically unstoppable.
All this is why Spider-Man is, factually, the best sup-
I'ma let you finish but Iron Man is the greatest of all time,,,
I'm not finish stop being right, if you're just gonna run up here being wrong.
I love RDJ Iron Man, but he's still just 1/3 of a Batman.
And Batman is lesser than Spider-Man.
That's just simple math.
He's like 5x batman, come on. He's like what if Batman was actually smart instead of obsessive and able to pay an R&D team. And cared about the world. And was part of a team instead of the creepy guy watching the team. And wasn't obsessed with neurotic crazy women. Iron Man is way better than Batman.
Spider-Man is nowhere near the most dangerous. Hulk, Thor, Strange could all do waaaaaaaaaaay more damage to everyone and everything. Tony would take him out. Cap is harder to call.
Maybe once he stops being such a goober.
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I haven't read it yet, but I've heard there's a section of Superior Spider-Man where (is it even a spoiler who? It's the premise of the series...) *someone* from his rogue's gallery ends up in control of Spider-Man (like, in his head) and marvels at how much restraint he'd shown over the years. That he could've just ended any number of them, and easily, countless times in the past.
I really should look into a trade paperback of that, unless someone notes that I shouldn't because it was hot bullshit or something.
That one cartoon where Spiderman never actually punched anyone? They didn't do it to avoid a PG rating, they did it to avoid a MA rating.
Spider-Man is nowhere near the most dangerous. Hulk, Thor, Strange could all do waaaaaaaaaaay more damage to everyone and everything. Tony would take him out. Cap is harder to call.
Maybe once he stops being such a goober.
Pretty much any of them would be horrifying if they suddenly stopped pulling their punches, but Spidey is one of the ones who's holding back the most for most of the time.
Like, everyone knows that Hulk can tear through skyscrapers at will, and they're mentally braced for that when he shows up. Spidey just shows up, webs some fools up, maybe knocks them out. And the joking quipping friendly neighbourhood spider-man has on at least one occasion I remember reading, gone to an abandoned building due for demolition, started punching to work off some stress issues, then abruptly had to leave when he realised that he's knocked the building down without even trying to.
Spider-man isn't nearly as dangerous as some of the others, true. But he's got one of the biggest gaps between how dangerous he appears and how dangerous he can actually be.
There's a bit in USM's Clone Saga where Fury admits that he was looking at everything Peter could do and what he was going through and was terrified that he was looking at the origin of the next super-villain. Which he thought he'd need an army of Spider-Slayers to deal with.
I haven't read it yet, but I've heard there's a section of Superior Spider-Man where (is it even a spoiler who? It's the premise of the series...) *someone* from his rogue's gallery ends up in control of Spider-Man (like, in his head) and marvels at how much restraint he'd shown over the years. That he could've just ended any number of them, and easily, countless times in the past.
I really should look into a trade paperback of that, unless someone notes that I shouldn't because it was hot bullshit or something.
That one cartoon where Spiderman never actually punched anyone? They didn't do it to avoid a PG rating, they did it to avoid a MA rating.
He never hit anyone in Homecoming either, luckily for Vulture.
The only thing I would consider a mild cop out in a way is the fact that Spider-Man has "fucking crazy super strength". Though the somewhat legit reasoning is "If he has strength proportional to a spider, then technically being a ~150-200 pound man he really would have fucking crazy super strength". It's otherwise not something that gets brought up very often, except to say "Oh yeah he totally has fucking crazy super strength, he just holds back". Otherwise in like 90% of the time in any given story, Spider-Man's main advantage is his fucking crazy super agility.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
All this is why Spider-Man is, factually, the best superhero fyi hth
I agree that he's the best but his stories are usually too tragic for me. Like, one of the reasons I like MCU spidey is that Stark is in his corner, at least. I remember reading Secret Wars and every motherfucker was trying to kill Spidey, even the X-men. Give the guy a fucking break!
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Based on a number of shows and movies (and like the entire genre known as Anime), I'd say it all but makes one impervious to attack.
That's why it's so shocking when that guy gets abruptly eaten by the shark in Deep Blue Sea (yes I'm being vague but surely the statute of limitations has run out on a B rate (if that) movie that's nearly 20 years old holy shit it's nearly 20 years old what the fuck?).
Or when that guy in that Marvel movie is monologuing and is interrupted by that big green guy.
"Magic!"
"More magic!"
"Magic with a kick!"
"Magic with a GUH!" As Thanos finally chokeslams him.
Clearly, quipping is a free action.
Spiderman's spider sense is basically a Feat that turns quipping into a free action.
I never read the comics, but I remember reading in a Spiderman guide that his spidersense essentially allows him to fight on autopilot so his conscious mind can be dedicated to quipping. Which is especially effective since so many of his villians are irritable middle-aged men.
I don't recall reading this element, but I remember reading someone once say that the quipping was basically his way of putting enemies off balance, as well as a mechanism to handle the stress of the conflicts he found himself in.
It might not be a universal take on things, but I always liked that stance. Part debuff (as it were), part coping mechanism.
"Who?"
HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
Yeah, but no acknowledgement whatsoever.
General rule of thumb: If Spider-Man isn't cracking a joke, then you have severely pissed him right off and he's going full tilt.
Or, you know, Doc Ock's up to his old antics again
I'm reminded of an old Spider-Man comic I read as a kid where he was fighting (one of them) Hobgoblin and was real tired of him and stopped with the quips, he wasn't even talking. He just beat on him a whole goddamn bunch.
I really should look into a trade paperback of that, unless someone notes that I shouldn't because it was hot bullshit or something.
I loved superior spidey. Falters a bit in spots but otherwise is filled with great moments
The other night, a bro and I were discussing something fascinating about Spider-Man.
Y'all ever notice how everyone Spider-Man fights, be they mugger or supervillain, immediately defaults to Ultramurder Spider-Man Mode the second he shows up?
Like, this guy has been dealing with people trying their absolute hardest to kill him since he was sixteen. Never once are these guys like 'cheese it, it's the Spider-Man,' or 'just distract him and scram.'
No, these people will go from quietly burgling, to KILL EVERYONE the second Pete shows up. They will go out of their way to kill this guy, long after they've escaped or been foiled.
And he's just, like... whatevs, this is my jam.
Damn, son.
I think the appearance of a masked hero tends to escalate tension and makes the bad guys go into "this guy can take it" mode, especially since many of them are probably unaware of his age at first. I love the moments in Spiderman 1, 2, and to a lesser extent, Homecoming, when the villain first realizes, "Crap. This jerk I've been trying to kill is just a kid. And a pretty likable one, too."
Like, if you think about it, he's absolutely a hardened combatant, I wish they showed that more. Not in him being brutal or anything, just someone laser-ing him through a wall or whatever, and another hero is like "doesn't that hurt?" And Spidey's all "yeah, loads, but whatever I guess"
"It makes me nostalgic because it reminds me of that one time when..."
You really, really should read it all the way through. It's up and down, but the ending, and the return has possibly the single best "Oh shit" moment from a villian.
I'ma let you finisher but Iron Man is the greatest of all time,,,
We know for a fact that his intended goal is to halve every race not all of sentient life. He said Gamora's people lived in a utopia because of what he did and he intends to look at the sunset while the universe benefits from the same process he used on Gamora's people. Indiscriminately halving the universe would not achieve his stated goal. If only 10% of people on a given planet were ashed, it would not create the utopic (word?) state he desires. Killing too much of a race would have dire consequences on genetic stability and overall viability as a species.
By the time that Thanos pulls off the Snap, he has all 6 gems. This means that he has an AI from the Mind Stone backed with unlimited processing power from the Power Gem, unlimited processing speed from the Time Gem, unlimited range thanks to the Space Gem, unlimited ability to track all sentients ensuring no one escapes from the Soul Stone, and unlimited ability to erase even powerful beings thanks to the Reality Stone. All of them functioning together could track every sentient in the galaxy, categorize them by race, determine the state of their race, and eliminate them as necessary.
The phrase half-human half whatever is just a stand in term for whatever race they become like Mule. Being half of one and half of another, wouldn't double your chances because you are a unique race. Any Half-celestial, half whatever would not count as being half-human, half celestial.
As for Spider-man, he is legit the most dangerous man on Marvel Earth. All of his powers build off each other and combine to make him more than the sum of his parts. Superhuman speed + Superhuman Agility + Superhuman Reflexes + Spider-Sense allow him to literally dance around most foes untouched. Combined that with his high-intelligence and superhuman strength and durability, you make for an unbeatable combination. If he had a Wolverine-style healing factor, he would be practically unstoppable.
I'm not finish stop being right, if you're just gonna run up here being wrong.
I love RDJ Iron Man, but he's still just 1/3 of a Batman.
And Batman is lesser than Spider-Man.
That's just simple math.
Iron Man builds goddamn flying suits of armor.
What's Batman got? Shark repellent?
Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
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He's like 5x batman, come on. He's like what if Batman was actually smart instead of obsessive and able to pay an R&D team. And cared about the world. And was part of a team instead of the creepy guy watching the team. And wasn't obsessed with neurotic crazy women. Iron Man is way better than Batman.
Maybe once he stops being such a goober.
Well, not now, unless it snows and you need something to grit the path with.
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Tony Stark is a rich genius.
Batman is a rich genius; a detective; and can actually fight with his hands.
I got my doctorate in Being Right from Johnny Hopkins.
That one cartoon where Spiderman never actually punched anyone? They didn't do it to avoid a PG rating, they did it to avoid a MA rating.
Pretty much any of them would be horrifying if they suddenly stopped pulling their punches, but Spidey is one of the ones who's holding back the most for most of the time.
Like, everyone knows that Hulk can tear through skyscrapers at will, and they're mentally braced for that when he shows up. Spidey just shows up, webs some fools up, maybe knocks them out. And the joking quipping friendly neighbourhood spider-man has on at least one occasion I remember reading, gone to an abandoned building due for demolition, started punching to work off some stress issues, then abruptly had to leave when he realised that he's knocked the building down without even trying to.
Spider-man isn't nearly as dangerous as some of the others, true. But he's got one of the biggest gaps between how dangerous he appears and how dangerous he can actually be.
There's a bit in USM's Clone Saga where Fury admits that he was looking at everything Peter could do and what he was going through and was terrified that he was looking at the origin of the next super-villain. Which he thought he'd need an army of Spider-Slayers to deal with.
He never hit anyone in Homecoming either, luckily for Vulture.
I agree that he's the best but his stories are usually too tragic for me. Like, one of the reasons I like MCU spidey is that Stark is in his corner, at least. I remember reading Secret Wars and every motherfucker was trying to kill Spidey, even the X-men. Give the guy a fucking break!