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[DCEU]: The Batman, The
TexiKen
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DC currently makes better superhero comics. Fact.
DC currently makes better superhero cartoons. Fact.
DC currently has the better superhero fighting game. Fact.
DC currently makes better superhero movies.
...well, you can't win them all.
It's not a secret the DCEU has had problems. From not getting tone correctly like with nearly everything Superman related, to internal factors like poor management and direction, and sadly outside factors causing problems in production of their biggest movie to date in Justice League, everything's been wonky. For every step forward, it seems like two steps back.
But there is hope!
On the horizon is Aquaman, scheduled for release on December 21st:
After that, we have the anticipated SHAZAM! film, scheduled for April 5th 2019:
And after that, we have The Lourve's Lovely Lady herself, Diana Prince, returning for Wonder Woman 2 on November 1, 2019:
Also in the pipeline are:
-a Black Adam movie
-Suicide Squad 2
-Gotham City Sirens
-TWO Joker movies
-a Batman solo movie
-a Flash movie
-a Cyborg movie
-and a Green Lantern Corps movie.
The topic is DC movies and occasionally DC Entertainment as a whole when applicable.
DC currently makes better superhero cartoons. Fact.
DC currently has the better superhero fighting game. Fact.
DC currently makes better superhero movies.
...well, you can't win them all.
It's not a secret the DCEU has had problems. From not getting tone correctly like with nearly everything Superman related, to internal factors like poor management and direction, and sadly outside factors causing problems in production of their biggest movie to date in Justice League, everything's been wonky. For every step forward, it seems like two steps back.
But there is hope!
On the horizon is Aquaman, scheduled for release on December 21st:
After that, we have the anticipated SHAZAM! film, scheduled for April 5th 2019:
And after that, we have The Lourve's Lovely Lady herself, Diana Prince, returning for Wonder Woman 2 on November 1, 2019:
Also in the pipeline are:
-a Black Adam movie
-Suicide Squad 2
-Gotham City Sirens
-TWO Joker movies
-a Batman solo movie
-a Flash movie
-a Cyborg movie
-and a Green Lantern Corps movie.
The topic is DC movies and occasionally DC Entertainment as a whole when applicable.
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"... story checks out."
Kids: Hooray!
Me: It's adult oriented.
Kids: ...
This'll either be really good, or really bad, there is no middle ground.
Once that's done, start working on fresh IP's that have modest budgets of around 50-80 million with a few going over 100 million if they're certain that they can nail both the box office and the critical support.
Above all else: stop making everything batman. I'd sooner hit myself in the groin with an adjustable wrench then watch another batman movie right now.
On a side-note, my kids watched Justice League for the first time. A couple of hot takes from them:
8 year old: This Aquaman is so cool. Is he going to be in the next movie or is it that orange shirt guy?
12 year old: The Flash is faster than Superman. That scene is stupid.
And they asked about the mother boxes and what were they doing with them and how were parademons made. The big question they kept on asking was "Where's Darkseid? I don't like this axe guy."
I guess one cool thing they could do is just have multiple Jokers in the DCEU and have it be an "I'm Spartacus" thing. It would be kind of an extension of "Let me tell you how I got these scars". Just have multiple "Jokers" operating at the same time, nobody know's who the original one is.
Tag line: "The fan boys will still argue it's better then anything marvel is putting out!"
Kind of wish it was beer (and it's obvious why they didn't do that) but this will do, the costume looks good. What you aren't seeing is Jay & Silent Bob singing Jungle Love just to the side.
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This is WB modus operandi, it's Game of Thrones over there between the divisions. That's how they like it.
Which doesn't stop 'stupid' from being a correct answer too. For all I know they think that both films can be successful and provide an entertaining deathmatch between the two productions.
Instead, according to this concept, Batman DID kill the Joker, several times, early in their history. But realised a) that the underlying person was relatively innocent and killing them would just cause another innocent to be infected/possessed, and b) imprisoning them as a short term containment, was preferable to killing them and having someone else almost immediately be possessed.
I've not been a big follower of the comics, but I follow enough, and that always made a twisted kind of sense to me.
I think it makes more sense to say that Batman, while an effective crimefighter, who is highly devoted to helping people and caring for the city simply will not kill people. He is himself a psycologically damaged person and a vigilante execution is a line he will not cross, and that Gotham, despite all its problems, still has a fully functional justice system with appeals and so forth which also believes that executions cannot be carried out on a whim.
The joker is the test of that. He wants Batman to become an executioner. He knows that if Batman DOES kill him, that Batmans resulting mental breakdown will lead to him becoming a far worse villain than the joker ever was. Batman is good, but he is also insane. If he kills the Joker, then he will become worse than the joker ever was.
It just never sat well with me, given how often the Joker escapes, and how many people he kills, and that there's no redemption or rehabilitation possible. So I like the idea there's an explicit reason why Batman doesn't, beyond a moral code that gets hundreds/thousands/more? people killed.
If ever there was a case for extrajudicial capital punishment, it'd be the Joker.
Exactly, but, I do think that Batman's own mental instability is at play here. Any sane person could create a distinction between the Joker and most other criminals, and say "I will kill the joker, but not like, start slaughtering jaywalkers" but Batman (and the Joker) knows that he can't. So Batman keeps capturing him, and Joker keeps trying to get Batman to kill him.
The bigger question is, why doesn't say, random person who pushes the asylum cart #40562 after Batman captures him just kill the Joker. But, then it wouldn't be much of a story!
Yeah especially considering how often we see IRL police just kill people during everyday life, the realism kinda falls apart. Joker is like a Bin Laden level guy, any officer who killed him while attempting to capture him would be celebrated as a hero.
I had a fan theory a while ago that Joker successfully got Joker Venom into Gotham's water supply at some point in the distant past, and the whole city is kinda crazy as a result. That's why there are so many zany costumed heroes and mostly villains. Most of them don't even have powers, they're just regular people putting on costumes and fighting each other.
My answer on this for the Joker is that the majority of the police are too afraid to do anything to him, knowing that if they try that the Jokers gang will take revenge on them.
But then, why doesn't like, Martian Manhunter just kill him. Or why doesn't Superman put him in the phantom zone? The secondary logic (Beyond why BATMAN doesn't do something) is just pretty much, 'You've got to live with the fact that it works like this'
That having been said, I do not understand in the context of the DCU how joker is still alive. You've already established that this batman doesn't give two shits about the sanctity of life, it's heavily implied that he murdered robin and he's not exactly hiding that well. How is he still walking around at this point and not tortured to death, a quadrapalegic or beaten so badly that he makes terry shivo look perfectly healthy?
Yep, post the new 52, Batman discovered that there are three different versions of Joker running around....for some reason....because DC must reset their universe every couple years or people will die.
It's like a comic book version of "It follows" only without the boning.
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That was B vs S Batman, post-B vs S Batman had that retconned away. The events did play out, but it's implied to be different. The first time this Batman appeared was in Suicide Squad.
You can tell by Batman not packing heat, and that his Batmobile isn't using other cars to squash Joker's car.
https://www.thewrap.com/birds-of-prey-black-canary-huntress-cassandra-cain-renee-montoya/
Pls don't fuck up Huntress and Cassie, WB.
Who are the options?
Two of my guesses:
Professor Pyg
Would he be appropriate for a BoP villain? He seems more Batman-obsessed.
So are WB.
If there's no Oracle on the roster WTF, that's stupid.
If it has to be a Batman villain that is.
I wish not everything had to be Batman villains.
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