Doctor Who has lost a lot of cultural traction since the Matt Smith days, so good for you Chris for trying to come in with a bang. Shaking up the formula with the casting and set design doesn't help much if you're just going to go back to the same handful of writers RTD and Moffat liked to work with. Putting aside of course that Chibnall himself was one of those writers...
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That’s the first I’ve read to an absence of Daleks. Is that just them alluding to lack of them in the marketing or like is there something I missed there?
That’s the first I’ve read to an absence of Daleks. Is that just them alluding to lack of them in the marketing or like is there something I missed there?
They've announced there'll be no old monsters this season. It's intended to be a jumping-on point for new viewers.
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While I'm 100% in favour of diverse casting when it comes to the role of the Doctor, would anyone have really minded if, back in the day, they'd just cast four consecutive McGann brothers?
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Nothing. I'm hoping its going to be warm enough down there in late Oct to just do the t-shirt, but knowing my luck and Melbourne weather I'll be drenched and cold. Oh well. Definitely going to be wearing a singlet underneath just because the top is slightly more sheer than I would like, but we'll see.
That’s the first I’ve read to an absence of Daleks. Is that just them alluding to lack of them in the marketing or like is there something I missed there?
They've announced there'll be no old monsters this season. It's intended to be a jumping-on point for new viewers.
I'm...kinda annoyed by this statement. the old monsters being introduced to new viewers is perfectly viable. You don't even have to have continuity...because its a TIME TRAVELING SHOW.
to promise no new monsters at all means no interesting interactions with the 'new' doctor and his old enemies for the first time.
At the very least I would like to see Madam Vastra show up. (Not an enemy of course but 'monster' maybe).
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I'll be honest, you could remove the Daleks from the show entirely save maybe an anniversary special or something and you wouldn't hear a chirp out of me. They've been fairly exhausted narratively speaking for a good long while by my figuring.
I was not limiting my comment to the Daleks, which i kinda agree, i could do without a season of them... but first encounter meetings with new companions and Doctors are usually good moments.
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Nothing to say there won't be "old" monsters next year, once the characters are a bit more firmly established and you can play with their reactions more.
Daleks are rarely written well. Consistently, they are hyped up as the most lethal killing machines in the universe, and then gimped the second that that promise becomes inconvenient for the narrative.
A Dalek is equipped with weapons systems 1000 times more sophisticated than all the computers of the world combined... but we need the Doctor to get away, so they'll all fail to hit him when he's running in a straight line down a corridor. They're master tacticians that have conquered a billion worlds... but we need the audience to know what's going on, so they'll constantly announce their plans to people who still have the ability to stop them. They are consumed with hatred of all other life forms to the point of almost total insanity... but we can't let the Doctor's companions get hurt, so instead of killing them the Daleks will take them captive for some poorly-defined reason.
I want to see the Daleks again when someone who knows what they're doing has a damn good story to tell with them, and not a moment sooner.
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Daleks are rarely written well. Consistently, they are hyped up as the most lethal killing machines in the universe, and then gimped the second that that promise becomes inconvenient for the narrative.
A Dalek is equipped with weapons systems 1000 times more sophisticated than all the computers of the world combined... but we need the Doctor to get away, so they'll all fail to hit him when he's running in a straight line down a corridor. They're master tacticians that have conquered a billion worlds... but we need the audience to know what's going on, so they'll constantly announce their plans to people who still have the ability to stop them. They are consumed with hatred of all other life forms to the point of almost total insanity... but we can't let the Doctor's companions get hurt, so instead of killing them the Daleks will take them captive for some poorly-defined reason.
I want to see the Daleks again when someone who knows what they're doing has a damn good story to tell with them, and not a moment sooner.
I'm relieved we'll be getting new stuff, honestly. It'd be great if they raised the bar on how one defines a "good Dalek (or Cyberman) story," somewhat, as we have seen some real clunkers throughout new Who.
The 9th Doctor's run ins with the Daleks are my favorites. They make the Daleks threatening in a way I like.
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I think it comes down to the way the actor plays it - Nine was fucking terrified of them, while Ten had a plan already and was confident. I liked Eleven's first run in with em, where he gets physically violent, and Twelve being disgusted by a "good" Dalek. But I dunno, after their first encounters each Doctor just settles into a pretty mellow attitude about em.
Aren't the only episodes of new Who with pop music Love and Monsters and Vincent and the Doctor? I'm sure they're not going to start using it in episodes now.
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I know it's basically just a bit of fluff but:
- First good listen to the new composer.
- First up-close look at the new TARDIS exterior.
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As is recovering it in highly improbable circumstances!
They've announced there'll be no old monsters this season. It's intended to be a jumping-on point for new viewers.
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I'm...kinda annoyed by this statement. the old monsters being introduced to new viewers is perfectly viable. You don't even have to have continuity...because its a TIME TRAVELING SHOW.
to promise no new monsters at all means no interesting interactions with the 'new' doctor and his old enemies for the first time.
At the very least I would like to see Madam Vastra show up. (Not an enemy of course but 'monster' maybe).
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A Dalek is equipped with weapons systems 1000 times more sophisticated than all the computers of the world combined... but we need the Doctor to get away, so they'll all fail to hit him when he's running in a straight line down a corridor. They're master tacticians that have conquered a billion worlds... but we need the audience to know what's going on, so they'll constantly announce their plans to people who still have the ability to stop them. They are consumed with hatred of all other life forms to the point of almost total insanity... but we can't let the Doctor's companions get hurt, so instead of killing them the Daleks will take them captive for some poorly-defined reason.
I want to see the Daleks again when someone who knows what they're doing has a damn good story to tell with them, and not a moment sooner.
I'm relieved we'll be getting new stuff, honestly. It'd be great if they raised the bar on how one defines a "good Dalek (or Cyberman) story," somewhat, as we have seen some real clunkers throughout new Who.
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A bold move, I guess it'll shore up the Strictly results show audience is the hope? Still, a better Sunday evening than Countryfile usually is.
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not loving the music choice.
Personally I feel silly forming an opinion of 15 seconds of content. It's better than nothing though.
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So the Doctor will be a vandal. I bet the sonic will shoot spray paint out now!