Tynnanseldom correct, never unsureRegistered Userregular
And yet the strongest decks after set 4 released were Alessi aggro decks of various configurations. So much so that they needed to be nerfed. Maybe I'm seeing a different standard than you are, but the wraths available don't seem to be oppressive on the whole.
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KayWhat we need...Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered Userregular
It sounds like you're playing midrange, and running into a lot of control. Control has a big advantage over midrange - the general rule is, if you're one stage slower than your opponent, you have the advantage. If you're much FASTER than you're opponent, you have the advantage, hence aggro beating control.
Aggro loses to Midrange, which loses to Control, which loses to Aggro.
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edited August 2018
I default to midrange because they can survive two board clears which my aggro decks can't. Although I guess the niggly part is I try to do Rakano and Feln aggro, which have a playable aegis unit or two but not enough to deal with a hand of three removal spells and four board clears, as opposed to Skycrag aggro that has multiple aegis units and Champ of Fury.
Like, I agree aggro will blast over control decks that are trying to Do Something (ie, revenge or crown decks) because they risk drawing combo pieces instead of removal, but my issue is more with the decks that are almost pure removal plus like a playset of Icaria and a Rizan or two and that's it. That deck has a very good aggro matchup while grinding midrange players' souls to dust. Then I suppose they lost to the combo decks that don't care when you kill their utility/recurring minions, but I'd really rather it not be that rock/paper/scissors.
Also yes, the Alessi deck is dumb, I ain't going to deny that My last game yesterday I died to a Battlemage that was Accelerated Evo'd twice and then Finest Hour'd twice on turn 5, which I had nothing to deal with because I didn't draw any of my sources of killer and the Finest Hour he'd consistently held up would have beaten it anyway.
The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
edited August 2018
lmao almost lost a sealed game because it didn't give me a pause on their end step to cast Viper's Bite. Because it's a combat trick, I guess I can only play it if they're actually attacking or casting something for me to respond to? That's dumb.
Especially since they let you Sharpened Reflexes on their end step just because it says Scout on it.
Edit: I had a Wyrmstone equipped, is why it mattered.
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The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
edited August 2018
Holy shit, Vanquisher's Blade empowers for only five? Why is not everyone playing that, that's broken as shit.
Edit: Like, I see a lot of hubbub over Cleaver and the Stand Together sword, but getting to seven mana for those is actually a cost.
This deck is RIDICULOUSLY fun to play. Really hard to play too, but so fun!
Which begs the question: what decks does everyone play? I have Icaria Blue, FJS Control, Skycraggo and Kennadins currently fully updated. I don’t play Skycraggo much though.
I also have TJP Mid and TJP Berserk but both are frankly quite outdated at this point.
I'm playing a gunslinger aggro deck. Just hit Silver 1! I dont have the legendary count for some of the control decks.
This lucky penny is bullshit.
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The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
edited August 2018
I brew like five different decks every time I play; closest thing to an Actual Deck I have built out is Elysian Monstars (with 0 Behemoths and 1 Cirso). Could probably climb to at least diamond if I just grinded it but meh, memeing in Gold II it is.
Edit: I could almost certainly build Praxis Token pretty easily but also meh. Tried to craft out sentinel reanimator but the shuffler hates me way too much for that.
Kennadins is this set's Gearcruncher for me. Decks that I really want to play but can't get myself to pony up the stone for 8 legendaries that don't see much (any?) play outside those decks.
I mostly play mid-range decks since the "demise" of aggro. I still stubbornly play Stonescar Queen or Gunslingers from time-to-time but Skycrag is probably more viable.
I was seeing a lot of token and Alessi decks in my pocket. I've been trying to counter tokens with Elysian overwhelm or big Hooru (ft. Hailstorm). For the Alessi decks I just hope I can capitalize on opponent mistakes and race because a bajillion Stand Together's are always coming.
My favorite janky deck right now is probably FJS Xenan Fanatic burn(?) but it's not so good :P
The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
edited August 2018
Game is really just trying its damndest to ruin my night. Multiple games lost to "whoops they curved into three Maktos!" "whoops that fucking tinker from the justice two drop buffed Makto!" "whoops those copperhall bailiff warcries hit Makto!" "whoops Icaria buffed Makto!" "whoops second Icaria buffed Makto again which they immediately drew!"
Literally five games of that shit, and they were the only games I lost. I started mid Gold II and was one win from Diamond III multiple times. In pretty much all of them they lost if Makto was shuffled 1-2 cards deeper.
Oh wait no sorry, I had one other loss by the one that went Rizan Rizan Harsh Rule Icaria Icaria. That'll also do it.
Jammed through my 40 sealed games in 3-4 days and lucksacked my way to rank 205. Maybe I should have been playing these things instead of calling it quits as soon as I crack rank 10,000.
The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
Ugh, this game is such a tease. Played out my last ten sealed leaderboard games, ended up 25-15 and got to 490. After winning five more tiebreaker games I was at 491. No way I'm staying top 500 :c
I learned my lesson to never play the day packs are released, at least. That was my worst week with a 5-5.
I'm trying to force myself back into ranked but the amount of non-games is just staggering. Game after game of opponents who not only draw perfect answers to my cards but are able to establish their own board at the same time. Every game feels like a pull of the slot machine and I'm on a huge cold streak. I miss having actual decisions.
I'm trying to force myself back into ranked but the amount of non-games is just staggering. Game after game of opponents who not only draw perfect answers to my cards but are able to establish their own board at the same time. Every game feels like a pull of the slot machine and I'm on a huge cold streak. I miss having actual decisions.
I've been playing Shadow Sentinels, because engine building is fun, but yeah, my opponents are mostly invincible.
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mmm, slaying your own ticking grenadin for lethal.
I'm trying to force myself back into ranked but the amount of non-games is just staggering. Game after game of opponents who not only draw perfect answers to my cards but are able to establish their own board at the same time. Every game feels like a pull of the slot machine and I'm on a huge cold streak. I miss having actual decisions.
That's why I quit the game. I think the mulligan system is the main culprit.
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I... actually like the mulligan system a lot? It really lowers the number of non-games compared to what can happen in MTG. Then again, mulliganing is an art, and Eternal does enable some snap-mulls as you just look and say 'well I'm guaranteed at least 2 power if I ship it'.
Next adventure/campaign is giving a bomb to removal.deck ...
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Vara, Vengeance-Seeker
Lifesteal
Nothing can have an Aegis
Summon: The enemy player must choose: Sacrifice a unit or give Vara +2/+2 and Deadly
I... actually like the mulligan system a lot? It really lowers the number of non-games compared to what can happen in MTG. Then again, mulliganing is an art, and Eternal does enable some snap-mulls as you just look and say 'well I'm guaranteed at least 2 power if I ship it'.
Yeah, I don't know the math behind why the mulligan system is good in MtG but bad in Eternal.
Eternal having more cards and a 1/3 Power mandate is a problem, but I thought the mulligan answers that.
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Aggro loses to Midrange, which loses to Control, which loses to Aggro.
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nice hearthstone deck you got there
(because it's all rng lulz swing one-shot hurr hurr)
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Like, I agree aggro will blast over control decks that are trying to Do Something (ie, revenge or crown decks) because they risk drawing combo pieces instead of removal, but my issue is more with the decks that are almost pure removal plus like a playset of Icaria and a Rizan or two and that's it. That deck has a very good aggro matchup while grinding midrange players' souls to dust. Then I suppose they lost to the combo decks that don't care when you kill their utility/recurring minions, but I'd really rather it not be that rock/paper/scissors.
Also yes, the Alessi deck is dumb, I ain't going to deny that
Especially since they let you Sharpened Reflexes on their end step just because it says Scout on it.
Edit: I had a Wyrmstone equipped, is why it mattered.
Edit: Like, I see a lot of hubbub over Cleaver and the Stand Together sword, but getting to seven mana for those is actually a cost.
This deck is RIDICULOUSLY fun to play. Really hard to play too, but so fun!
Which begs the question: what decks does everyone play? I have Icaria Blue, FJS Control, Skycraggo and Kennadins currently fully updated. I don’t play Skycraggo much though.
I also have TJP Mid and TJP Berserk but both are frankly quite outdated at this point.
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Edit: I could almost certainly build Praxis Token pretty easily but also meh. Tried to craft out sentinel reanimator but the shuffler hates me way too much for that.
I mostly play mid-range decks since the "demise" of aggro. I still stubbornly play Stonescar Queen or Gunslingers from time-to-time but Skycrag is probably more viable.
I was seeing a lot of token and Alessi decks in my pocket. I've been trying to counter tokens with Elysian overwhelm or big Hooru (ft. Hailstorm). For the Alessi decks I just hope I can capitalize on opponent mistakes and race because a bajillion Stand Together's are always coming.
My favorite janky deck right now is probably FJS Xenan Fanatic burn(?) but it's not so good :P
Literally five games of that shit, and they were the only games I lost. I started mid Gold II and was one win from Diamond III multiple times. In pretty much all of them they lost if Makto was shuffled 1-2 cards deeper.
Oh wait no sorry, I had one other loss by the one that went Rizan Rizan Harsh Rule Icaria Icaria. That'll also do it.
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*Fire Kiln + Sandstorm Titan*
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*Icaria*
eternal will be adding a form of twitch drops you can't just idle for
It's super rad and should hopefully be a great boon to the game's visibility on Twitch.
Oh, I'm getting my hair did for this.
I learned my lesson to never play the day packs are released, at least. That was my worst week with a 5-5.
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And holy gods do I love it. It reminds me of the kind of Control decks I love to play in mtg. Just the ever tightening vice grip of death.
I've been playing Shadow Sentinels, because engine building is fun, but yeah, my opponents are mostly invincible.
That's why I quit the game. I think the mulligan system is the main culprit.
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4SS
3/4
Vara, Vengeance-Seeker
Lifesteal
Nothing can have an Aegis
Summon: The enemy player must choose: Sacrifice a unit or give Vara +2/+2 and Deadly
Hearthstone - Webber #1330
3DS: 0920-3235-4071
Yeah, I don't know the math behind why the mulligan system is good in MtG but bad in Eternal.
Eternal having more cards and a 1/3 Power mandate is a problem, but I thought the mulligan answers that.