Had anyone ordered stuff from green stuff world? I keep trying to track my package and I can't, I was curious if anyone else has had this experience.
Yeah, whatever generates the tracking links for their site/emails is busted as fuck. Just manually copy the tracking code from their order page and put it into your local receiving service tracker. It’s basically international mail so they should at least have pre-notification that it’s coming.
As someone who is just about to start dipping his toe into the hobby wysiwyg seems like a fucking crazy and stupid thing.
I'm not sure you understand what wysiwyg is, because that's a weird opinion to have.
The anecdotes above are all about gamers with their pants on their head and have nothing to do with actual model fidelity. It's varied from edition to edition, but in the past GW has flat out stated that small things like grenades or pistols don't need to be modeled, because that's ridiculously fiddly. The anecdotes above also reference the small, individual model based games where some people are really invested in the rpg-like element of having their models reflect exactly what they've been through in the course of a campaign. Which is why I referred to the other guy in the story as a douch-nozzle, because he wasn't asking anything reasonable or expected, but being a dick about how HE thought the models should look.
The root of WYSUWYG is that you look at the model and know what it is and has. Good examples of models that fail it are 'those grey, unpainted legs attached to a base over there are assault marines. While those 10 grey, unpainted legs over there are devastators, who have 1 lascannon, 1 multimelta, and 2 plasma cannons, and one of them is a sergeant with a plasma pistol.' Or that their HQ unit over there who is built just like a normal marine doesn't roll up into combat and reveal he has ALL the special weapons. 'Golly, did I forget to mention that?" Or the ever popular 'the empty bases I painted blue are X, green are Y, and black are knight titans. Pretend the base is big enough for the footprint.'
Converting and kitbashing stuff that doesnt exist is a proud tradition of wargaming! But GW's been steadily moving away from that, and only having rules for things with actual models, for better or worse.
That said, wysiwyg's not that crazy, it's mostly just to communicate to your opponent what a model has. This guy has a plasmagun, or that tank has one big cannon, and three little guns. It becomes important when there are different options for the same model (this guy can take a meltagun OR a plasmagun. I should be able to tell which he has) No one really cares about minutia of standard wargear, like grenades or smoke launchers or sidearms or combat weapons.
My guess for new psykers:
Librarian
Brotherhood Champ
Farseer
GSC Patriarch
GSC Magus
Tzeentch Exalted Sorceror
Shadowseer
Broodlord
maybe Zoanthrope
That's all the plastic models I think. Of course they could also throw in som metal/resin models like Chaos Sorcerors for factions that don't have enough plastics.
Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
With the Necromunda article today mentioning spyers and knowing the game is in forgeworld's court I kind of fear the models are going to be 25+ and I have no idea where my tiny gang is
Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
Of the Eldar factions the Harlequins are almost certainly getting the most commanders - Troupe Masters, Shadowseers, Death Jesters and even Solitaires are all possibilities. Drukhari are probably just Archons and Succubi given the absence of Wracks from their main list.
Craftworlders are going to be, what, just Farseers? Maybe Spiritseers too and possibly an Autarch if flying stuff is suddenly cool in Kill Team?
Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
Of the Eldar factions the Harlequins are almost certainly getting the most commanders - Troupe Masters, Shadowseers, Death Jesters and even Solitaires are all possibilities. Drukhari are probably just Archons and Succubi given the absence of Wracks from their main list.
Craftworlders are going to be, what, just Farseers? Maybe Spiritseers too and possibly an Autarch if flying stuff is suddenly cool in Kill Team?
Well in the xenos book you could have a jump pack on your autarch they overlooked this in the codex
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Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
Of the Eldar factions the Harlequins are almost certainly getting the most commanders - Troupe Masters, Shadowseers, Death Jesters and even Solitaires are all possibilities. Drukhari are probably just Archons and Succubi given the absence of Wracks from their main list.
Craftworlders are going to be, what, just Farseers? Maybe Spiritseers too and possibly an Autarch if flying stuff is suddenly cool in Kill Team?
Given where they drew the line and my immediate and visceral desire to get them out, non-Avenger Aspect Warriors seem possible but unlikely.
Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
Of the Eldar factions the Harlequins are almost certainly getting the most commanders - Troupe Masters, Shadowseers, Death Jesters and even Solitaires are all possibilities. Drukhari are probably just Archons and Succubi given the absence of Wracks from their main list.
Craftworlders are going to be, what, just Farseers? Maybe Spiritseers too and possibly an Autarch if flying stuff is suddenly cool in Kill Team?
Tau already have stealth suits and drones with fly. Reivers can almost fly. I think we'll see the autarch before the spiritseer as long as the new plastic version is exclusive to Wake the Dead. Personally I also think spiritseers without wraith units don't make much sense. Gimme new warlocks already GW.
My guess for new psykers:
Librarian
Brotherhood Champ
Farseer
GSC Patriarch
GSC Magus
Tzeentch Exalted Sorceror
Shadowseer
Broodlord
maybe Zoanthrope
That's all the plastic models I think. Of course they could also throw in som metal/resin models like Chaos Sorcerors for factions that don't have enough plastics.
Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
Getting back into the hobby this last year, after being out of 40k since college, I can't be bothered to buy anything metal or resin. I'll build my lists around plastic kits and suffer with the results if that's the case. Plastic is just so easy.
Getting back into the hobby this last year, after being out of 40k since college, I can't be bothered to buy anything metal or resin. I'll build my lists around plastic kits and suffer with the results if that's the case. Plastic is just so easy.
Metal's okay, if a bit of a pain to work with at times.
Games Workshop's resin is the fucking devil and I refuse to buy anything made in it. I thought after they dropped the Finecast label that they might have improved it, but one shitty squad of Rangers later convinced me that I'd much rather convert units out of plastic kits than suffer through it again.
As someone who is just about to start dipping his toe into the hobby wysiwyg seems like a fucking crazy and stupid thing.
I'm not sure you understand what wysiwyg is, because that's a weird opinion to have.
The anecdotes above are all about gamers with their pants on their head and have nothing to do with actual model fidelity. It's varied from edition to edition, but in the past GW has flat out stated that small things like grenades or pistols don't need to be modeled, because that's ridiculously fiddly. The anecdotes above also reference the small, individual model based games where some people are really invested in the rpg-like element of having their models reflect exactly what they've been through in the course of a campaign. Which is why I referred to the other guy in the story as a douch-nozzle, because he wasn't asking anything reasonable or expected, but being a dick about how HE thought the models should look.
The root of WYSUWYG is that you look at the model and know what it is and has. Good examples of models that fail it are 'those grey, unpainted legs attached to a base over there are assault marines. While those 10 grey, unpainted legs over there are devastators, who have 1 lascannon, 1 multimelta, and 2 plasma cannons, and one of them is a sergeant with a plasma pistol.' Or that their HQ unit over there who is built just like a normal marine doesn't roll up into combat and reveal he has ALL the special weapons. 'Golly, did I forget to mention that?" Or the ever popular 'the empty bases I painted blue are X, green are Y, and black are knight titans. Pretend the base is big enough for the footprint.'
I mean yeah I think there should be limits to what's allowed and that the extreme examples in your last paragraph should be dealt with.
But on the other hand I bought some guys to make kill team people with and the book says that some of them can take a sword or chainsaw and there are no swords or chainsaws in the box.
So the idea of WYSIWYG makes me scared that I'll go to an event and won't be allowed to give my guy a sword. As an example.
Or say I wanted to add a scout or two. Whoops, I can either buy the box that comes with sniper rifles or the box that comes with...shotguns I think? Guess if I want to have one of each I might be expected to buy two boxes?
Or whoops, I didn't do some magnet stuff earlier and I want to change my gun type? Guess I'm just screwed then?
I think there are reasonable expectations that you are using the right models for unit types, but that's where it stops for me. Loadouts shouldn't be WYSIWYG IMO. As long as everything is clearly recorded, and made clear to both players, that should be enough. Hell, I WANT to have my guys look as accurate as they can. But if I can't do it with what comes in the box, I'm not gonna.
Playing kill team with my brother I kind of want to build a small not black templar space marine squad
Just what chapter is a debate of I could do Redmaw's company of Space wolves just to have different but similar to what my brother does or Mantis warriors! because by doing a ideal of 5 to 10 I can customize them to how they progress just the later I would have to free hand or make my own transfers
But with the Rogue Trader expansion I thought if they continue this I thought I would like to see really interesting maps/boards like attacking a Hive Fleet ship
Generally speaking in casual games WYSIWYG is pretty loosely enforced, the trick is being consistent across your force about it.
GW stores tend to be sticklers about it because they want you to buy more models. Tournaments tend to be strict on it because speed of play is very important and models not looking like what they actually are can be a real problem.
I generally like WYSIWYG. It helps a lot with the immersion and often looks better. Otherwise I could play with abstract markers on a field of shoe boxes. I'll probably play something suboptimal if I don't have the proper models.
I do love me some proxies if they are the result of a characterful custom conversion though.
I just picked up the first strike box and the mould line remover tool because I have poor impulse control.
I was very excited to discover that my favourite stinky bois, the Death Guard, have their own codex now! And some real nice/gross models too.
the Death Guard are in a pretty good place right now, lots of new plastic models that are absolutely gorgeous.
they also play quite well too, not usually top tier (except in Kill team where they are king) but good enough to hold their own without too much trouble.
I just picked up the first strike box and the mould line remover tool because I have poor impulse control.
I was very excited to discover that my favourite stinky bois, the Death Guard, have their own codex now! And some real nice/gross models too.
the Death Guard are in a pretty good place right now, lots of new plastic models that are absolutely gorgeous.
they also play quite well too, not usually top tier (except in Kill team where they are king) but good enough to hold their own without too much trouble.
Death Guard have pretty much always been my favourite traitor legion since I first got into 40K. Back then they just had some fairly bland metal models though, so I’m stoked at the amount of love they’ve gotten from GW since.
Shadowfields for Archons seem pretty nasty in Killteam
196 points for a lvl 4 Broodlord? I thought the limit was 150 points. Maybe for later stage campaigns were normal games can already be 150 points?
Going by the text Autarchs also get weapon option, so I guess you might also get the option the footslogging version from the xenos index? That would be nice.
All the Aura Tactics seem super cheap for what you get.
Where did you read about a limit?
The standard for current killteams is 100pts (but you can increase them to whatever), but given that most commanders are at least 100points by themselves (judging by the rogue trader rules), standard points for commander games will probably be 200pts (100ish for a commander, 100ish for the mooks. Or in the case of the broodlord, 196pts for one jacked out commander). Keep in mind that if you're using commanders, EVERYONE needs to use a commander. So you can't have 200points of guardsmen or grots or whatever.
150 points is the limit for commander games in the Rogue Trader expansion which from what we've been shown so far from the Commanders expansion seems nearly identical ruleswise. The Rogue Trader expansions even mentions the Commanders expansion.
Where did you read about a limit?
The standard for current killteams is 100pts (but you can increase them to whatever), but given that most commanders are at least 100points by themselves (judging by the rogue trader rules), standard points for commander games will probably be 200pts (100ish for a commander, 100ish for the mooks. Or in the case of the broodlord, 196pts for one jacked out commander). Keep in mind that if you're using commanders, EVERYONE needs to use a commander. So you can't have 200points of guardsmen or grots or whatever.
They're supposedly upping the matched play points so you can add in a commander OR just add more units. Not sure where I read that.
Edit: From the earlier article;
Commanders can be used in special open, narrative and matched play missions that allow higher points limits than ordinary games of Kill Team, enabling you to include a Commander alongside your normal kill team or field a larger kill team against them.
Ah, I guess my skimming of the roguetrader book was off. I missed the 150pt cap for games. Bringing a lvl4 broodlord seems like only for special campaigns or up-point games then.
Apparently you can also field multiple commanders, as the only stipulation is that you can't field multiples of the same type?
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Especially when options models can have don't even come in the box with them sometimes.
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The anecdotes above are all about gamers with their pants on their head and have nothing to do with actual model fidelity. It's varied from edition to edition, but in the past GW has flat out stated that small things like grenades or pistols don't need to be modeled, because that's ridiculously fiddly. The anecdotes above also reference the small, individual model based games where some people are really invested in the rpg-like element of having their models reflect exactly what they've been through in the course of a campaign. Which is why I referred to the other guy in the story as a douch-nozzle, because he wasn't asking anything reasonable or expected, but being a dick about how HE thought the models should look.
The root of WYSUWYG is that you look at the model and know what it is and has. Good examples of models that fail it are 'those grey, unpainted legs attached to a base over there are assault marines. While those 10 grey, unpainted legs over there are devastators, who have 1 lascannon, 1 multimelta, and 2 plasma cannons, and one of them is a sergeant with a plasma pistol.' Or that their HQ unit over there who is built just like a normal marine doesn't roll up into combat and reveal he has ALL the special weapons. 'Golly, did I forget to mention that?" Or the ever popular 'the empty bases I painted blue are X, green are Y, and black are knight titans. Pretend the base is big enough for the footprint.'
That said, wysiwyg's not that crazy, it's mostly just to communicate to your opponent what a model has. This guy has a plasmagun, or that tank has one big cannon, and three little guns. It becomes important when there are different options for the same model (this guy can take a meltagun OR a plasmagun. I should be able to tell which he has) No one really cares about minutia of standard wargear, like grenades or smoke launchers or sidearms or combat weapons.
Honestly though it seems like the Librarian is going to be the default choice since odds are there are going to be a lot more psykers in games soon.
Librarian
Brotherhood Champ
Farseer
GSC Patriarch
GSC Magus
Tzeentch Exalted Sorceror
Shadowseer
Broodlord
maybe Zoanthrope
That's all the plastic models I think. Of course they could also throw in som metal/resin models like Chaos Sorcerors for factions that don't have enough plastics.
Generally Death Guard, Harlequins, and GSC could be the factions with the most commanders in addition to the already revealed Militarum, DW, and Marines.
Of the Eldar factions the Harlequins are almost certainly getting the most commanders - Troupe Masters, Shadowseers, Death Jesters and even Solitaires are all possibilities. Drukhari are probably just Archons and Succubi given the absence of Wracks from their main list.
Craftworlders are going to be, what, just Farseers? Maybe Spiritseers too and possibly an Autarch if flying stuff is suddenly cool in Kill Team?
Well in the xenos book you could have a jump pack on your autarch they overlooked this in the codex
Given where they drew the line and my immediate and visceral desire to get them out, non-Avenger Aspect Warriors seem possible but unlikely.
Tau already have stealth suits and drones with fly. Reivers can almost fly. I think we'll see the autarch before the spiritseer as long as the new plastic version is exclusive to Wake the Dead. Personally I also think spiritseers without wraith units don't make much sense. Gimme new warlocks already GW.
I got another to paint as a ynnari/siam hann one in the made to order stuff
plaguecasters too
EDIT: also warlocks and wyrdboys?
*Eldar has 100% right to bitch on this.
I really forsee when the Sisters of battle come out they will have new chaos marines since the realm of chaos is rebooting Slaanesh and maybe Khrone?
But yeah I remember those eldar from when I was still in Afghanistan
Chaos has characters old enough to vote, some old enough to drink.
I think Eldar are old enough to have family and a mortgage.
I bought some Necron HQs and those finecast models were a nightmare.
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Ragnar is waving his aged lead-filled fist
I am still amazed at the sculpt from then of him
Even though it is a flat cast and his backpack with flag poles he and Ulrik are amazing
I only have the previous Cryptek and Szeras whom I had to nearly boil to bend into place
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Metal's okay, if a bit of a pain to work with at times.
Games Workshop's resin is the fucking devil and I refuse to buy anything made in it. I thought after they dropped the Finecast label that they might have improved it, but one shitty squad of Rangers later convinced me that I'd much rather convert units out of plastic kits than suffer through it again.
Like, can I use JB weld or another epoxy, and get better results?
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I was very excited to discover that my favourite stinky bois, the Death Guard, have their own codex now! And some real nice/gross models too.
I mean yeah I think there should be limits to what's allowed and that the extreme examples in your last paragraph should be dealt with.
But on the other hand I bought some guys to make kill team people with and the book says that some of them can take a sword or chainsaw and there are no swords or chainsaws in the box.
So the idea of WYSIWYG makes me scared that I'll go to an event and won't be allowed to give my guy a sword. As an example.
Or say I wanted to add a scout or two. Whoops, I can either buy the box that comes with sniper rifles or the box that comes with...shotguns I think? Guess if I want to have one of each I might be expected to buy two boxes?
Or whoops, I didn't do some magnet stuff earlier and I want to change my gun type? Guess I'm just screwed then?
I think there are reasonable expectations that you are using the right models for unit types, but that's where it stops for me. Loadouts shouldn't be WYSIWYG IMO. As long as everything is clearly recorded, and made clear to both players, that should be enough. Hell, I WANT to have my guys look as accurate as they can. But if I can't do it with what comes in the box, I'm not gonna.
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Just what chapter is a debate of I could do Redmaw's company of Space wolves just to have different but similar to what my brother does or Mantis warriors! because by doing a ideal of 5 to 10 I can customize them to how they progress just the later I would have to free hand or make my own transfers
But with the Rogue Trader expansion I thought if they continue this I thought I would like to see really interesting maps/boards like attacking a Hive Fleet ship
Just do the board so it's random in someway
And other ideas for game boards I thought of
GW stores tend to be sticklers about it because they want you to buy more models. Tournaments tend to be strict on it because speed of play is very important and models not looking like what they actually are can be a real problem.
Casual games usually don’t care. Ymmv.
I do love me some proxies if they are the result of a characterful custom conversion though.
the Death Guard are in a pretty good place right now, lots of new plastic models that are absolutely gorgeous.
they also play quite well too, not usually top tier (except in Kill team where they are king) but good enough to hold their own without too much trouble.
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Death Guard have pretty much always been my favourite traitor legion since I first got into 40K. Back then they just had some fairly bland metal models though, so I’m stoked at the amount of love they’ve gotten from GW since.
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Shadowfields for Archons seem pretty nasty in Killteam
196 points for a lvl 4 Broodlord? I thought the limit was 150 points. Maybe for later stage campaigns were normal games can already be 150 points?
Going by the text Autarchs also get weapon option, so I guess you might also get the option the footslogging version from the xenos index? That would be nice.
All the Aura Tactics seem super cheap for what you get.
The standard for current killteams is 100pts (but you can increase them to whatever), but given that most commanders are at least 100points by themselves (judging by the rogue trader rules), standard points for commander games will probably be 200pts (100ish for a commander, 100ish for the mooks. Or in the case of the broodlord, 196pts for one jacked out commander). Keep in mind that if you're using commanders, EVERYONE needs to use a commander. So you can't have 200points of guardsmen or grots or whatever.
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Apparently you can also field multiple commanders, as the only stipulation is that you can't field multiples of the same type?
Can these be the same jacked up genestealers or do they need to be different?
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