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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    If I am interested in Pandemic Legacy but unsure if my group would be, should I just get regular Pandemic?

    I dunno how easy it would be to “undo” a first game and try it with a different group if my main one doesn’t care for it

    You can play any number of non legacy games with Pandemic Legacy before launching the campaign.

    If you are new to the series the game even recommends you do just that.

    Oh wow i did not know you can just play base Pandemic with a copy of Legacy, I thought it was only good for a legacy game

    Is there any difference between the color boxes? I keep seeing listing for (Red) and (Blue) and (Yellow)

    There are slight rule differences, but they generally are for the better. If you've only played Legacy you won't notice them.


    Red and Blue are Season 1, Yellow and Black are season 2 (which is $20 more expensive).

    The seasons are 100% the same, the different boxes are just in case you want to run multiple games and track them or something.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    The idea from a few pages back of an asymmetrical Netrunner clone with a wizard trying to set up seals and rituals to protect the word while a horrible elder being tries to break through is

    deeply excellent

    it's so good that I'm mad it doesn't exist

    My only problem is when the Elder God tries to sneak into our world and the wizard hits him with an explosive trap. Then on the Wizard’s next turn, he fires a rocket into the outer dimension for lethal.

    It's the Elder God's own fault for attempting to conform to a reality with Hunter decks.

    Okay, this shit right here? This is why I'm on board with Keyforge.

    Fuck metas.

    All games have metas though. "Metagame" is just another word for "strategy" in most cases.

    Eh... I dunno if you'd really say there's a meta to Tic-tac-toe.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Keep in mind that once you've played even a single Legacy game of Season 1, you will no longer be able to play base Pandemic with it.

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    The idea from a few pages back of an asymmetrical Netrunner clone with a wizard trying to set up seals and rituals to protect the word while a horrible elder being tries to break through is

    deeply excellent

    it's so good that I'm mad it doesn't exist

    My only problem is when the Elder God tries to sneak into our world and the wizard hits him with an explosive trap. Then on the Wizard’s next turn, he fires a rocket into the outer dimension for lethal.

    It's the Elder God's own fault for attempting to conform to a reality with Hunter decks.

    Okay, this shit right here? This is why I'm on board with Keyforge.

    Fuck metas.

    All games have metas though. "Metagame" is just another word for "strategy" in most cases.

    Eh... I dunno if you'd really say there's a meta to Tic-tac-toe.

    Sure there is. The fact that if first player goes corner you must respond with middle or you lose is a meta. And if you don't know the meta you lose.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    The idea from a few pages back of an asymmetrical Netrunner clone with a wizard trying to set up seals and rituals to protect the word while a horrible elder being tries to break through is

    deeply excellent

    it's so good that I'm mad it doesn't exist

    My only problem is when the Elder God tries to sneak into our world and the wizard hits him with an explosive trap. Then on the Wizard’s next turn, he fires a rocket into the outer dimension for lethal.

    It's the Elder God's own fault for attempting to conform to a reality with Hunter decks.

    Okay, this shit right here? This is why I'm on board with Keyforge.

    Fuck metas.

    All games have metas though. "Metagame" is just another word for "strategy" in most cases.

    Eh... I dunno if you'd really say there's a meta to Tic-tac-toe.

    Sure there is. The fact that if first player goes corner you must respond with middle or you lose is a meta. And if you don't know the meta you lose.

    No, because that's not what metagame means.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    I'm not sure I agree with "metagame" being another word for "strategy." Not because I think it's objectively wrong but because I think being aware of a strategy for a game is very different from being aware of the metagame.

    Either way knowing that you must respond in the middle is tactics, not strategy or metagame.

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited October 2018
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Keep in mind that once you've played even a single Legacy game of Season 1, you will no longer be able to play base Pandemic with it.

    Eh, you can ignore stickers. Really only becomes a problem once you destroy components. If you set them aside instead, can still play a normal game.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The idea from a few pages back of an asymmetrical Netrunner clone with a wizard trying to set up seals and rituals to protect the word while a horrible elder being tries to break through is

    deeply excellent

    it's so good that I'm mad it doesn't exist

    Same. So go make it.

    Thaaaaaanks

    Can I just reskin all the core rules and non-broken cards from Netrunner?

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    Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    edited October 2018
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    I have a thoughtful and infrequently updated blog about games http://whatithinkaboutwhenithinkaboutgames.wordpress.com/

    I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Keep in mind that once you've played even a single Legacy game of Season 1, you will no longer be able to play base Pandemic with it.

    More importantly, don't get Season 2 (Yellow/Black). You can't play regular Pandemic with it at all.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    last minute staff party this weekend and someone made a demo copy of Brass v(whichever one is the original remake in the black box) for it!

    it's been a while since I had a game night so I'm excited.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Auralynx wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    The idea from a few pages back of an asymmetrical Netrunner clone with a wizard trying to set up seals and rituals to protect the word while a horrible elder being tries to break through is

    deeply excellent

    it's so good that I'm mad it doesn't exist

    My only problem is when the Elder God tries to sneak into our world and the wizard hits him with an explosive trap. Then on the Wizard’s next turn, he fires a rocket into the outer dimension for lethal.

    It's the Elder God's own fault for attempting to conform to a reality with Hunter decks.

    Okay, this shit right here? This is why I'm on board with Keyforge.

    Fuck metas.

    All games have metas though. "Metagame" is just another word for "strategy" in most cases.

    Eh... I dunno if you'd really say there's a meta to Tic-tac-toe.

    Sure there is. The fact that if first player goes corner you must respond with middle or you lose is a meta. And if you don't know the meta you lose.

    No, because that's not what metagame means.

    I should have said escalatory meta.

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    My kids have for whatever reason attached themselves to Monopoly (Nintendo edition), and I have played 3 games in the past week. Even worse, they want to keep playing with house rules...

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    My kids have for whatever reason attached themselves to Monopoly (Nintendo edition), and I have played 3 games in the past week. Even worse, they want to keep playing with house rules...

    Somebody reskin a Great Mushroom Trail for this poor man.

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    My kids have for whatever reason attached themselves to Monopoly (Nintendo edition), and I have played 3 games in the past week. Even worse, they want to keep playing with house rules...

    Somebody reskin a Great Mushroom Trail for this poor man.

    I haven't heard of this one.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    My kids have for whatever reason attached themselves to Monopoly (Nintendo edition), and I have played 3 games in the past week. Even worse, they want to keep playing with house rules...

    Somebody reskin a Great Mushroom Trail for this poor man.

    I haven't heard of this one.

    I'm implying someone make a Nintendo version of Great Western Trail.

    I don't know how to humor.

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    I should have understood that. Haven't actually played that yet. Looks neat though.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Ok, that one's super-obviously the Hanged Man, which clarifies the others a nit if you weren't sure this was tarot-related.

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    ArcticLancerArcticLancer Best served chilled. Registered User regular
    I'm still not expecting anything more than a small-box bluffing game from all this, but remain curious all the same. :P

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    mysticjuicermysticjuicer [he/him] I'm a muscle wizard and I cast P U N C HRegistered User regular
    The art is f'ing gorgeous, whatever it is. Jeebus.

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    If you look up the tarot major arcana numbers it's v clear they all match.

    Yeah, it's obvious now that I see it's definitely a Tarot thing courtesy of this last one, but until that image, it was:

    "I dunno, this is basically a game about wizards maybe? Does the fact that they use a lot of green imply something?"

    I do hope it's something a little larger than a single one-off game. FFG is due for a new IP even if they've been handling the ones they've got well.

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    mysticjuicermysticjuicer [he/him] I'm a muscle wizard and I cast P U N C HRegistered User regular
    Got to play some more games of Codex last night with a friend. This is my 4th game against him and he finally won a game! Which is great because it means he's now way more excited to play more Codex! :biggrin: Man I wish there was an online implementation of that game; I would do almost nothing else... Having recently got back into Magic with MtG Arena, I just love that they managed to make distinct factions that all do drastically different things, but also completely get rid of different types of mana, flood/screw situations, and no-play openers. Even with MtG Arena rolling you two starting hands and giving you the one with the most even land/spell distribution, you still get some real trash opening hands.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    so did Simon Stalenhag actually work on Scythe or did they just rip his shit off wholesale

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    I want that tarot deck.
    Mr. G wrote: »
    so did Simon Stalenhag actually work on Scythe or did they just rip his shit off wholesale

    Who? What game?

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Athenor wrote: »
    I want that tarot deck.
    Mr. G wrote: »
    so did Simon Stalenhag actually work on Scythe or did they just rip his shit off wholesale

    Who? What game?

    a Swedish novelist and artist whose work looks...

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    a whole lot like the art for Scythe

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Scythe art has a lot of controversy around it iirc

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    JonBobJonBob Registered User regular
    There is a similarity in composition and in the juxtaposition of real and fictional elements, sure. I don't think that remotely qualifies as a "ripoff."

    There was a controversy surrounding Scythe art that seemed to have some merit, though I think it has been satisfactorily addressed by now. Details here:
    https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1990146/truth-behind-art-jakub-rozalski/page/1

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    ArcticLancerArcticLancer Best served chilled. Registered User regular
    He didn't work on it AFAIK (he's not credited on BGG at any rate).
    There is indeed a lot of controversy around Jakub Rozalski's work. Look into it more if you want. It's not really a discussion for here.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I think I just want that tarot deck now

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    FFG just announced the next campaign of the Arkham Horror LCG.

    It's Tarot themed.. but none of the above artwork is featured, so I'm not sure if connected.

    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/10/12/the-circle-undone/

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    It would be a shame if it was just that

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    It would be a shame if it was just that

    Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm excited, but the art styles just don't mesh, and why the heck would FFG generate so much mystery over an AH:LCG release?

    I am expecting a new product announcement at Arkham Nights, but I don't think it will be an AH product.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    One of the cards there is tarot themed, pretty sure this cycle is gonna be about tarot stuff

    I think this is it

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    One of the cards there is tarot themed, pretty sure this cycle is gonna be about tarot stuff

    I think this is it

    If that's true I they blew this marketing plan hard.

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    crimsoncoyotecrimsoncoyote Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    One of the cards there is tarot themed, pretty sure this cycle is gonna be about tarot stuff

    I think this is it

    If that's true I they blew this marketing plan hard.

    The art isn't even in the same style? I dunno, I would think they would post the last tarot card with a link to whatever they're teasing. There's no direct connection between the two other than the tarot theme...
    Maybe just wishful thinking on my part.

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    ArcticLancerArcticLancer Best served chilled. Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    One of the cards there is tarot themed, pretty sure this cycle is gonna be about tarot stuff

    I think this is it

    If that's true I they blew this marketing plan hard.
    Honestly, at this point I think they screwed up either way, because the overlap between whatever it is and the Arkham expansion is already there and will probably shut off tons of people who were otherwise paying attention. And again, that's only assuming that it isn't the Arkham expansion (which I agree, doesn't really seem like where this is going).

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    Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    The art is f'ing gorgeous, whatever it is. Jeebus.

    I'm so intrigued by I checked out the artist's social media profiles looking to see if they had accidentally leaked any details but they were running a tight ship.

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    Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    That's really weird, if I look at those tweets on the FF twitter page I get a artist credit in the tweet. But I'd don't see that when the tweet is embedded in the forum page.

    I have a thoughtful and infrequently updated blog about games http://whatithinkaboutwhenithinkaboutgames.wordpress.com/

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