I broke down and watched the Flash premiere after having ditched in the middle of last season, and it was pretty good.
The banter and (relatively) low-stakes plot was a nice thing to start the season with. Plus JPK was great as Nora.
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I figured they were doing flash forwards instead of flashbacks at like the second time they did it this episode. The guy playing Adult William was pretty good at portraying the kid's idiosyncrasies. I figured it was Future Roy on the island before it was revealed, too
I'm thinking the new Green Arrow is also Roy just because he did bullshit parkour, but after the future Roy reveal I'm not sure.
I figured they were doing flash forwards instead of flashbacks at like the second time they did it this episode. The guy playing Adult William was pretty good at portraying the kid's idiosyncrasies. I figured it was Future Roy on the island before it was revealed, too
I'm thinking the new Green Arrow is also Roy just because he did bullshit parkour, but after the future Roy reveal I'm not sure.
Re: New Arrow speculation
I feel like Roy would have looped all the Ex-Team Arrow people in if he was back doing the whole thing.
I figured they were doing flash forwards instead of flashbacks at like the second time they did it this episode. The guy playing Adult William was pretty good at portraying the kid's idiosyncrasies. I figured it was Future Roy on the island before it was revealed, too
I'm thinking the new Green Arrow is also Roy just because he did bullshit parkour, but after the future Roy reveal I'm not sure.
Re: New Arrow speculation
I feel like Roy would have looped all the Ex-Team Arrow people in if he was back doing the whole thing.
Not if he knows they have a deal and/or they're still being watched by the feds.
My other reason to think it's him is that New GA is helping businesses/people in the Glades
But this show knows when a reveal will be too predictable to draw out so I dunno
Having the new girl basically act like S1 Kara was adorable 'n all, but it really feels like the premiere's undercurrent is "look at how much older and more responsible the main characters are now". Like, everything from lighting, to clothing choices felt like they were trying to age-up everyone in some way.
A good way to do the new Green Arrow and get away with it in-universe would be to have a bunch of people being the GA, and they just take turns.
As soon as one gets suspected, get someone else to be the GA to give them a clear alibi.
The theory of 'maybe it's not just the one person in the mask' never seems to gain much ground in these, so exploit it.
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A good way to do the new Green Arrow and get away with it in-universe would be to have a bunch of people being the GA, and they just take turns.
As soon as one gets suspected, get someone else to be the GA to give them a clear alibi.
They've done that multiple times since season 1, including last season where Ollie said under oath he wasn't the Green Arrow and then publicly admitted he was
A good way to do the new Green Arrow and get away with it in-universe would be to have a bunch of people being the GA, and they just take turns.
As soon as one gets suspected, get someone else to be the GA to give them a clear alibi.
They've done that multiple times since season 1, including last season where Ollie said under oath he wasn't the Green Arrow and then publicly admitted he was
So I don't think they'll put up with it anymore
Arrow Speculation
I think the new Green Arrow is Future William and the flash forwards are Future Williams flashbacks. I don't think its a coincidence that Barry's future daughter is also here... I think he convinced her to take them both back.
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A good way to do the new Green Arrow and get away with it in-universe would be to have a bunch of people being the GA, and they just take turns.
As soon as one gets suspected, get someone else to be the GA to give them a clear alibi.
They've done that multiple times since season 1, including last season where Ollie said under oath he wasn't the Green Arrow and then publicly admitted he was
So I don't think they'll put up with it anymore
Arrow Speculation
I think the new Green Arrow is Future William and the flash forwards are Future Williams flashbacks. I don't think its a coincidence that Barry's future daughter is also here... I think he convinced her to take them both back.
I saw that idea on the AV Club comments, and that's one of the worst ideas I can think of. I would much rather it be a stranger, unknown to any of the characters, never shown on the show before, than William from the future time traveling.
That's fine on The Flash, but Arrow needs to be more grounded than that
It would be nice if the ArrowverseBeeboverse shows were a bit more even. 2 seasons ago I would have been saying exactly the same things about those 2 shows but reversed!
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This week's Supergirl is very creepy and hard to watch
Yeah, it was a bit odd seeing the whole back story, seemed like it was trying to build sympathy for the anti alien point of view.
It seems like an odd position for a show that's been as openly political as Super Girl has been considering the past positions they've taken.
I'm curious as to where they take it, but it was pretty uncomfortable watching them take a character that started as someone who would have been of the good guys and basically shit on him until he turned into the bad guy.
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(spoilers for current seasons of the Arrowverse)
In Arrow, future William revealed he's queer
In Flash, Nora (from the future) is queer
In Legends, Gary is queer
(I'm using "queer" because they've all expressed same-sex interest, but haven't said anything about other genders, so it's not clear if any are bi/pan or just same-sex interested)
This leads me to believe that I can travel through time
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This week's Supergirl is very creepy and hard to watch
Yeah, it was a bit odd seeing the whole back story, seemed like it was trying to build sympathy for the anti alien point of view.
It seems like an odd position for a show that's been as openly political as Super Girl has been considering the past positions they've taken.
I'm curious as to where they take it, but it was pretty uncomfortable watching them take a character that started as someone who would have been of the good guys and basically shit on him until he turned into the bad guy.
You can have sympathy for a person and what happened to them without condoning their actions as a result of what happened to them.
I think the idea was to show "an otherwise good person can choose to go down a bad road" to prevent a strawman villain
This week's Supergirl is very creepy and hard to watch
Yeah, it was a bit odd seeing the whole back story, seemed like it was trying to build sympathy for the anti alien point of view.
It seems like an odd position for a show that's been as openly political as Super Girl has been considering the past positions they've taken.
I'm curious as to where they take it, but it was pretty uncomfortable watching them take a character that started as someone who would have been of the good guys and basically shit on him until he turned into the bad guy.
You can have sympathy for a person and what happened to them without condoning their actions as a result of what happened to them.
I think the idea was to show "an otherwise good person can choose to go down a bad road" to prevent a strawman villain
I think it came off more sympathetic than it was meant to, and was meant more to be commentary on "fake allies"?
Like, the guy only supported aliens in the abstract; he never saw them as individuals. And then when something happened to him, he still didn't view them as individuals; he just flipped his stance
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Hell of a thumbnail
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Some serious side-eye going on in this episode of Legends of Summer Camp.
Looking back at season one versus now it's a completely different tone of show.
I kind of liked it when it was serious, but now it's like that one episode of 'Angel' with the puppets all the time*.
Which is cool too, just I could never have expected this direction back when the show started. They had to get weird or get cancelled, I guess.
*They're actually going to do a puppet episode and a musical, aren't they? I wouldn't be surprised.
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If anyone hasn't been watching Legends the last couple seasons, you should know that the latest episode (individual episode plot and minor character spoilers)
involved a magical book bringing a filmmaker's vision of a sea monster to life
only to be defeated by Mick, who secretly has a passion for writing, bringing his own creation into the world
which is how we get a climax wherein a purple, three-breasted warrior queen battles a land octopus
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I just saw a different Elseworld ad during this supergirl.
Quick shot of Barry’s dad in a Flash outfit that looked a hell of a lot like his own TV outfit and I am 1000% onboard with as many references to that old 90’s Flash show that only I watched as possible.
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The banter and (relatively) low-stakes plot was a nice thing to start the season with. Plus JPK was great as Nora.
I'm thinking the new Green Arrow is also Roy just because he did bullshit parkour, but after the future Roy reveal I'm not sure.
Re: New Arrow speculation
My other reason to think it's him is that New GA is helping businesses/people in the Glades
But this show knows when a reveal will be too predictable to draw out so I dunno
As soon as one gets suspected, get someone else to be the GA to give them a clear alibi.
The theory of 'maybe it's not just the one person in the mask' never seems to gain much ground in these, so exploit it.
So I don't think they'll put up with it anymore
Coran Attack!
Arrow Speculation
That's fine on The Flash, but Arrow needs to be more grounded than that
I love every goddamn thing about this trailer.
Coran Attack!
They were this close to finally cutting Cisco's ugly, awful hair
Why would you do this to me
*thinking emoji*
Tom Wilson!
That sequence where they're walking in a field each in their own frame!
Ray and Nate are even bigger dorks than we knew!
Like from minute one it is just super fun and charming
More focus on the West-Allen family antics, please
Jury’s out on if it’s good dumb or bad dumb
It would be nice if the ArrowverseBeeboverse shows were a bit more even. 2 seasons ago I would have been saying exactly the same things about those 2 shows but reversed!
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Yeah, it was a bit odd seeing the whole back story, seemed like it was trying to build sympathy for the anti alien point of view.
It seems like an odd position for a show that's been as openly political as Super Girl has been considering the past positions they've taken.
I'm curious as to where they take it, but it was pretty uncomfortable watching them take a character that started as someone who would have been of the good guys and basically shit on him until he turned into the bad guy.
In Flash, Nora (from the future) is queer
In Legends, Gary is queer
(I'm using "queer" because they've all expressed same-sex interest, but haven't said anything about other genders, so it's not clear if any are bi/pan or just same-sex interested)
This leads me to believe that I can travel through time
Coran Attack!
You can have sympathy for a person and what happened to them without condoning their actions as a result of what happened to them.
I think the idea was to show "an otherwise good person can choose to go down a bad road" to prevent a strawman villain
I think it came off more sympathetic than it was meant to, and was meant more to be commentary on "fake allies"?
Is that Maisie's real accent?
Supergirl
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We did not expect to end up on his instagram story.
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I kind of liked it when it was serious, but now it's like that one episode of 'Angel' with the puppets all the time*.
Which is cool too, just I could never have expected this direction back when the show started. They had to get weird or get cancelled, I guess.
*They're actually going to do a puppet episode and a musical, aren't they? I wouldn't be surprised.
Well, maybe not the Caitlin’s dad mystery
But the rest is aces
I’m excited!
only to be defeated by Mick, who secretly has a passion for writing, bringing his own creation into the world
which is how we get a climax wherein a purple, three-breasted warrior queen battles a land octopus
Coran Attack!