"Full Throttle" draw:
2/11: Pecil SSB, dupe Maria BSB
More like wet fart draw.
I was salty so I did the XV draw:
3/11: dupe Iris BSB, 5* spear (some Aranea garbage), 6* sword (dupe or otherwise garbage stuff for Noctis)
Actually turns out it was Ignis BSB and Ignis USB. I got emotional whiplash from "ugh, another wasted draw" turning into "two most-wanted items on the banner."
Pulled a few times on some realm draws... some were eh, and some were pretty damn solid! Pulled on IV, VII, IX, and XII, hoping for some good stuff.
IV: 1/11, one disco. Ceodore USB "Trinity Slash" (10x physical lightning/holy attacks to one target, enHoly, large DEF buff, medium ATK buff, small RES buff and temporarily attract enemy single-target physical and black magic attacks). I think this one looks pretty good- ten attacks is nothing to sneeze at, and the buffs ought to give him some good bets to survive until someone can start slapping heals on him.
VII: 2/11, two disco. Sephiroth AOSB "Setting Sun" (Twenty massive physical dark attacks, and one physical dark attack that can break the damage cap), Cid VII USB "Dynamite Boost" (Ten jump wind/nonelemental attacks to one target, enAero, moderate ATK boost, small DEF boost, temporarily remove the delay on jump attacks). Arcane breaks are nothing to sneeze at, but I don't know how good of a dragoon Cid VII makes. This might be more something I put out for people to use on a better dragoon, but the attack is pretty good.
IX: 1/11, no disco. Vivi Materia hat. Well, I had to get skunked some time.
XII: 1/11, no disco. Penelo USB "Dance of Rapture" (large heal, automatically heal another 2000 HP damage as it happens, and avoid one physical attack on every party member). This is pretty damn solid, and right in my main healer's wheelhouse.
For sixty mythril, I've done a hell of a lot worse.
i also caved and did 15. iris bsb, glad lmr, areana osb.
could have been worse, didn't have a medica in realm, and i have areana's bsb so that's reasonable tech, especially with prompto's usb in realm already.
not sure what else i would want to do. i guess maybe 1 and 2 if i can't swing those torments, and maybe 5 if i am feeling spicy for bartz aosb or chains.
Iris BSB is a super-good BSB that I don't use nearly as much as I thought I would, due to how incomparably good the instant healer USBs tend to be. But like, it's probably among the best healer BSBs; it's basically Asylum + Lifecrystal.
Iris BSB is a super-good BSB that I don't use nearly as much as I thought I would, due to how incomparably good the instant healer USBs tend to be. But like, it's probably among the best healer BSBs; it's basically Asylum + Lifecrystal.
The actual healing is does is smaller (h45 instead of h85?) so it ends up "feeling" less powerful.
Iris BSB is a super-good BSB that I don't use nearly as much as I thought I would, due to how incomparably good the instant healer USBs tend to be. But like, it's probably among the best healer BSBs; it's basically Asylum + Lifecrystal.
Larsa’s BSB is by far my most used healer BSB these days, and Iris is basically the same thing but swapping entry heal for the bubble.
I'm joining discord so if I'm on the computer I can give it a shot, but tbh I don't care THAT much :P
So looking into Gogo's burst - I presume this is primarily useful to be able to have (effectively) a second copy of Voltech or Chain Waterja, provided most people are using burst commands or the like so it doesn't automatically mimic those?
Oh, goddamn it. The numbers I'd been tracking for my various abilities aren't accurate anymore because the pdf changed from including to not including aura boosts for burst abilities and such. Gonna take some effort to fix this.
An afternoon of tinkering got me to 97% on Gerogero. If I use the motes it gave me to half-dive Edea and Fujin and full-dive Rinoa I could probably do it, although I expect not in under a minute.
I'm joining discord so if I'm on the computer I can give it a shot, but tbh I don't care THAT much :P
So looking into Gogo's burst - I presume this is primarily useful to be able to have (effectively) a second copy of Voltech or Chain Waterja, provided most people are using burst commands or the like so it doesn't automatically mimic those?
Or Lunar Leviathan or Ogopogo. But yeah, miming the best Water spell you have seems like the intended use.
I pulled in 5, 11, 13, 15, and 0. 11, 15, and 0 because I've got next to nothing there; 13 because most of my stuff there is dated; and 5 because 5 is awesome and chain hope springs eternal. In pull order:
0: 3/11 no disco: Rem burst, Cinque burst dupe, Nine LMR. Hey, I hear Rem burst is awesome, so there's that.
15: 2/11 no disco: Ignis LMR, Iris LMR. Ehhhh. Better when I someday get their BSBs.
11: 2/11 one disco: Aphmau USB, Ayame BSB. Now THAT's more like it. I've already got Aphmau SSB and Ayame OSB, nice fit.
5: 5/11 one disco: Exdeath USB, Faris LMR dupe, Bartz BSB2 dupe, Gil BSB2, Lenna LMR dupe (whelp, it'll make an 8*). Party faithga Exdeath might be nice, but he's competing with Raines BSB and Kuja USB to go with Seifer CSB on a magic dark team. Might change if I get his LMR. And I REALLY want Greg to work out, I've now got BSB1&2 and USB1, but he just doesn't seem usable. :bigfrown:
13: 3/11 one disco: Sazh USB, Sazh LMR, Nabaat LMR. Hey now! Sazh USB+LMR looks like a genuine Onion mUSB+LMR replacement against status hell bosses when using magic. Or a sub for Shelke when no chain is available and Edge isn't being used.
Pretty nice set. Great Support USB/LMR, still-good healing 30sec meta USB, and possibly usable dark faithga USB, plus some items that have great synergies to pull into later. I'll take that for 75 mythril.
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I have a new thread ready to go in the morning. Hopefully it's quiet over Saturday night to Sunday morning.
In other news, finally mastered Infernal Jumbo Flan solo after much frustration. Seriously, fuck that pile of jelly, fuck Infernal bosses that are impossible to find a group for and nearly impossible to do solo, and fuck DeNa for designing them to be unfun torture boxes, available for a limited time only.
Ended up running:
Onion Knight Meltdown/Shellga (BSB, mUSB) DMT (LMR, W-cast Magic)
Tyro Full Break/Enfeebling Jitterbug (Unique WALL) MM
Nanaki Chain Stoneja/Wrath (CSB) +DMG (LMR)
Rinoa Chain Stonega x2 (BUSB) +DMG (+MAG/hit, InitEnEarth)
Ovelia Curada/Dispel (USB) TGM
RW: Maria USB
First off, if I had to do it again, Nanaki would have Meltdown/Full Break, because he ended up with way too much meter after I settled on a working strategy that involved sandbagging phase 1 while Onion Knight rebuilt a SB bar with his BSB command 2. Tyro would also have Magic Breakdown instead of Full Break. Onion Knight would be carrying Chain Stoneja for the superior W-cast chance.
I'd probably also ditch +Earth armor for FFX synergy armor for the RES bonus, since setting up was dicey until I figured out a work around for Nanaki or Rinoa dying to the second AoE every time.
OK would BSB, Shellga, spam BSB C2 until he had another 500 SB points, then mUSB, call RW, spam Meltdown until empty, recast BSB, spam C2 until boss was dead (he actually got the killing blow).
Tyro would Wall, alternate dances, refresh Wall when it was up.
Nanaki would spam Wrath until OK was ready to mUSB, then Chain, call RW (wait a bit while OK finishes casting his RW), then spam Chain Stoneja. Refresh the Chain right before it falls off, resume Chain Stoneja (RW has worn off) until empty, then refresh Chain to be safe. I actually mistimed Dispel at the end and ate a reflected Chain Stoneja, but fortunately it hit Tyro, whose job was over at that point.
Rinoa would Chain Stonega until she had 500 SB points, then cast her BUSB as soon as Nanaki was casting the first chain. Resume Chain Stonega spam, firing off her Brave command whenever it was full. Recast her BUSB when it's up, recharge Brave command, then fire it off.
Ovelia would Curada OK, Rinoa, and herself, then Dispel (ideally right after Reflect goes up), then cast Curada (which probably would auto-target Nanaki). Hope one of the elements is one Rinoa resisted, then cast USB after Flan's second AoE. Once RES bonus was up, the boss's AoE was manageable. Spam Curada for SB meter, Dispel when necessary (have AI open as it's always scripted), recast her USB if Guts triggers AND you know someone can't survive the next AoE, since the boss attacks at predictable intervals.
With Wall, Shellga, +100% RES, and Full Break plus ATK/MAG -50%, the Infernal ultima could be survived by anyone at full health, but only just barely. Another layer of Magic Breakdown would've made it less scary.
Nanaki could've spammed Full Break and still built enough meter to Chain before OK was refilled via spamming BSB C2s, so Tyro could've brought Magic Breakdown for the third -MAG debuff. I was too cheap to back out of the fight and rejigger though.
OK should've had the 5 hit Stoneja just because of his slightly higher W-cast rate. When I started attempts I thought it might be Rinoa and Nanaki calling the RWs, but it didn't end up that way.
Crystal tower down with very little problem. Top floor with the four fiends pretty much requires status break and astra (and having cloud USB+Omega drive helps). The other floors are basically “bring an imperil+element team and go crazy”, with the bonus that the bottom floor is already weak to fire.
whats the consensus on the realm relic draw? do 1 pull on each?
With few exceptions. XI is the most likely one to have mostly duds, depending on what you have in the realm, but if you don't have anything in the realm, then they wouldn't be duds! Also, new players it's probably worthwhile to toss an extra 50-draw on some of the primary realms with power items (VII, T, etc). Everything's contextual to what you have and what you need.
I'm planning on doing one on each, I think. I would have skipped XI if I didn't need a lightning chain, and it's one of the opportunities for one (I whiffed on all four chances, but oh well :P). I'm still kinda waffling on I and III because I have all three chains there/a LOT of the power items, but there's still some good items and I don't have a ton of synergy in I. But for now, I'm holding off on doing any more draws until I can do one and still have 50 mythril left over as a "just in case they drop something on us unexpectedly" piggy bank.
Also, finally made my decision on the "choose your relics" trio and went V. Four-element coverage on the OSB was the best option.
Yeah, the relic trio is gonna be a bit of a tricky one for me. I and T-0 are tempting for the healer relics, V is basically 4 OSBs in one, XIII gives me a nice physical lighting OSB... it's a tough pick. Most likely to be V, though. If it's sticking around forever, I'll probably just wait until I know I need something from it.
Fair enough. But in the context of wanting stuff to break Rages, the versatility almost outweighs the lower power. Also, Bartz has a lot of extra attack power on my file. I'll need to think about it though; I'd really only need it for the Water element, since I can clear Zappy Bird, I have Locke's astounding OSB, and I do technically have Cloud's OSB, even if he's not exactly a stellar Wind character without his Ultras.
Top floor of the Crystal Tower required a few restarts due to some bad luck with targeting, but on the winning run it was very smooth. Across three runs, I didn't receive any status hell except for a random Slowga from Lich. Non-elemental team does the job. Tiamat does rapid fire AOE spam, so you will want to have full HP when finishing off Kraken, and ideally either have an instant medica prepped or start casting a slow medica.
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2/11: Pecil SSB, dupe Maria BSB
More like wet fart draw.
I was salty so I did the XV draw:
3/11: dupe Iris BSB, 5* spear (some Aranea garbage), 6* sword (dupe or otherwise garbage stuff for Noctis)
I've got that one too!
Now I just need Way Too Many Arcana.
IV: 1/11, one disco. Ceodore USB "Trinity Slash" (10x physical lightning/holy attacks to one target, enHoly, large DEF buff, medium ATK buff, small RES buff and temporarily attract enemy single-target physical and black magic attacks). I think this one looks pretty good- ten attacks is nothing to sneeze at, and the buffs ought to give him some good bets to survive until someone can start slapping heals on him.
VII: 2/11, two disco. Sephiroth AOSB "Setting Sun" (Twenty massive physical dark attacks, and one physical dark attack that can break the damage cap), Cid VII USB "Dynamite Boost" (Ten jump wind/nonelemental attacks to one target, enAero, moderate ATK boost, small DEF boost, temporarily remove the delay on jump attacks). Arcane breaks are nothing to sneeze at, but I don't know how good of a dragoon Cid VII makes. This might be more something I put out for people to use on a better dragoon, but the attack is pretty good.
IX: 1/11, no disco. Vivi Materia hat. Well, I had to get skunked some time.
XII: 1/11, no disco. Penelo USB "Dance of Rapture" (large heal, automatically heal another 2000 HP damage as it happens, and avoid one physical attack on every party member). This is pretty damn solid, and right in my main healer's wheelhouse.
For sixty mythril, I've done a hell of a lot worse.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
could have been worse, didn't have a medica in realm, and i have areana's bsb so that's reasonable tech, especially with prompto's usb in realm already.
not sure what else i would want to do. i guess maybe 1 and 2 if i can't swing those torments, and maybe 5 if i am feeling spicy for bartz aosb or chains.
The actual healing is does is smaller (h45 instead of h85?) so it ends up "feeling" less powerful.
Larsa’s BSB is by far my most used healer BSB these days, and Iris is basically the same thing but swapping entry heal for the bubble.
I believe this is karma for my dailies.
So looking into Gogo's burst - I presume this is primarily useful to be able to have (effectively) a second copy of Voltech or Chain Waterja, provided most people are using burst commands or the like so it doesn't automatically mimic those?
Or Lunar Leviathan or Ogopogo. But yeah, miming the best Water spell you have seems like the intended use.
0: 3/11 no disco: Rem burst, Cinque burst dupe, Nine LMR. Hey, I hear Rem burst is awesome, so there's that.
15: 2/11 no disco: Ignis LMR, Iris LMR. Ehhhh. Better when I someday get their BSBs.
11: 2/11 one disco: Aphmau USB, Ayame BSB. Now THAT's more like it. I've already got Aphmau SSB and Ayame OSB, nice fit.
5: 5/11 one disco: Exdeath USB, Faris LMR dupe, Bartz BSB2 dupe, Gil BSB2, Lenna LMR dupe (whelp, it'll make an 8*). Party faithga Exdeath might be nice, but he's competing with Raines BSB and Kuja USB to go with Seifer CSB on a magic dark team. Might change if I get his LMR. And I REALLY want Greg to work out, I've now got BSB1&2 and USB1, but he just doesn't seem usable. :bigfrown:
13: 3/11 one disco: Sazh USB, Sazh LMR, Nabaat LMR. Hey now! Sazh USB+LMR looks like a genuine Onion mUSB+LMR replacement against status hell bosses when using magic. Or a sub for Shelke when no chain is available and Edge isn't being used.
Pretty nice set. Great Support USB/LMR, still-good healing 30sec meta USB, and possibly usable dark faithga USB, plus some items that have great synergies to pull into later. I'll take that for 75 mythril.
Even with the counter resetting that thing is hilarious. Raines BSB is back to being busted with it.
In other news, finally mastered Infernal Jumbo Flan solo after much frustration. Seriously, fuck that pile of jelly, fuck Infernal bosses that are impossible to find a group for and nearly impossible to do solo, and fuck DeNa for designing them to be unfun torture boxes, available for a limited time only.
Ended up running:
Tyro Full Break/Enfeebling Jitterbug (Unique WALL) MM
Nanaki Chain Stoneja/Wrath (CSB) +DMG (LMR)
Rinoa Chain Stonega x2 (BUSB) +DMG (+MAG/hit, InitEnEarth)
Ovelia Curada/Dispel (USB) TGM
RW: Maria USB
First off, if I had to do it again, Nanaki would have Meltdown/Full Break, because he ended up with way too much meter after I settled on a working strategy that involved sandbagging phase 1 while Onion Knight rebuilt a SB bar with his BSB command 2. Tyro would also have Magic Breakdown instead of Full Break. Onion Knight would be carrying Chain Stoneja for the superior W-cast chance.
I'd probably also ditch +Earth armor for FFX synergy armor for the RES bonus, since setting up was dicey until I figured out a work around for Nanaki or Rinoa dying to the second AoE every time.
OK would BSB, Shellga, spam BSB C2 until he had another 500 SB points, then mUSB, call RW, spam Meltdown until empty, recast BSB, spam C2 until boss was dead (he actually got the killing blow).
Tyro would Wall, alternate dances, refresh Wall when it was up.
Nanaki would spam Wrath until OK was ready to mUSB, then Chain, call RW (wait a bit while OK finishes casting his RW), then spam Chain Stoneja. Refresh the Chain right before it falls off, resume Chain Stoneja (RW has worn off) until empty, then refresh Chain to be safe. I actually mistimed Dispel at the end and ate a reflected Chain Stoneja, but fortunately it hit Tyro, whose job was over at that point.
Rinoa would Chain Stonega until she had 500 SB points, then cast her BUSB as soon as Nanaki was casting the first chain. Resume Chain Stonega spam, firing off her Brave command whenever it was full. Recast her BUSB when it's up, recharge Brave command, then fire it off.
Ovelia would Curada OK, Rinoa, and herself, then Dispel (ideally right after Reflect goes up), then cast Curada (which probably would auto-target Nanaki). Hope one of the elements is one Rinoa resisted, then cast USB after Flan's second AoE. Once RES bonus was up, the boss's AoE was manageable. Spam Curada for SB meter, Dispel when necessary (have AI open as it's always scripted), recast her USB if Guts triggers AND you know someone can't survive the next AoE, since the boss attacks at predictable intervals.
With Wall, Shellga, +100% RES, and Full Break plus ATK/MAG -50%, the Infernal ultima could be survived by anyone at full health, but only just barely. Another layer of Magic Breakdown would've made it less scary.
Nanaki could've spammed Full Break and still built enough meter to Chain before OK was refilled via spamming BSB C2s, so Tyro could've brought Magic Breakdown for the third -MAG debuff. I was too cheap to back out of the fight and rejigger though.
OK should've had the 5 hit Stoneja just because of his slightly higher W-cast rate. When I started attempts I thought it might be Rinoa and Nanaki calling the RWs, but it didn't end up that way.
Cloud of Darkness LMR
Luneth Arcane!
Onion Sage Ultra!
Onion Ninja Ultra!
God damn. That's probably the single most wild draw I've got in a long time.
And Enlong that pull is disgustingly good.
Cecil's Materia (Dupe) and Ultra x2, Rydia's Ultra, and Palom's Ultra. Would've done without the dupes, but I'm not complaining!
Either way, pretty dang great.
With few exceptions. XI is the most likely one to have mostly duds, depending on what you have in the realm, but if you don't have anything in the realm, then they wouldn't be duds! Also, new players it's probably worthwhile to toss an extra 50-draw on some of the primary realms with power items (VII, T, etc). Everything's contextual to what you have and what you need.
I'm planning on doing one on each, I think. I would have skipped XI if I didn't need a lightning chain, and it's one of the opportunities for one (I whiffed on all four chances, but oh well :P). I'm still kinda waffling on I and III because I have all three chains there/a LOT of the power items, but there's still some good items and I don't have a ton of synergy in I. But for now, I'm holding off on doing any more draws until I can do one and still have 50 mythril left over as a "just in case they drop something on us unexpectedly" piggy bank.
Also, finally made my decision on the "choose your relics" trio and went V. Four-element coverage on the OSB was the best option.
It's elemental coverage, but it hits weaker than basically everyone but Tyro and Cloud's new one.
E: gem choice isn't sticking around. That one has, I think, a week?
I don't see a date on it.
PCecil. Forgot to mention that. Still awesome!
Also, he counters ninja, which sucks.