Grant Morrison (Happy!) will adapt his long-running comic series The Invisibles as the next project that's part of his deal with Universal Cable Productions
Set in 2020, follows an elite international cell of occult freedom fighters dedicated to the creation of a better world for everyone...by any means necessary
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I would love to see Grant Morrison's The Invisibles for the 21st century. However, i'm not sure that this will be any good. The world has changed enough that any Invisibles rooted in the current era will be effectively an entirely different Invisibles. Or... they use the same old stuff but in the modern day, which could be fun in a discordant way, but it wouldn't really gel together.
so I saw people talking about the Sunny finale and watched the sequence in question
I haven't watched Sunny in about 8 years
what they just did was brave
I've seen shows get called brave before, I've called them brave before, but what I really mean is true, or accurate, or surprising, or just digging deeper than you'd expect
but Sunny just threw caution to the wind, committed hard to something extremely difficult that might have failed at any juncture, and took an honest to God leap of faith in order to do the right thing
they were brave
The ending clearly went over my head, but I'm reading replies to Rob McElroy's twitter and it clearly resonated with many people in the way it was meant to, which is awesome.
The whole episode seems like an excuse to make Frank be awful and Macs being gay a running gag. Then in the last five minutes Mac at Franks urging comes out to his father in an insanely elaborate and not a joke dance routine that explains the hell Mac coming to terms with hus sexuality has been
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(FWIW, I would recommend no one read this. Watch the episode. My stupid writeup here doesn't do it justice, imo)
The first 2/3 of the episode is typical (funny) IASIP where the gang is being horrible. Frank is trying to get Mac to be the gay dancer on their Pride float. Mac isn't feeling it. He says he doesn't know where he fits in and doesn't feel proud. Frank, who broke his nose early on, spends the entire episode shoving, increasingly hilarious, things up his nose to stop the bleeding while taking Mac around to various cliche gay scenes to try and help Mac feel proud. Frank says he never "got" Mac, but he's trying to help. Finally he realizes that Mac needs to come out to his dad. Mac meets up with his dad and tries to explain how he's feeling (there's a storm inside of him and there's a super hot woman who's also god and they dance and they create something beautiful) except of course it comes out as a metaphor that sounds more like he is having a baby. His dad is ecstatic that he will finally have someone to carry on his name and mac goes along with it because his dad is acknowledging him for the first time. We later see Frank give up on convincing Mac to be the dancer on the pride float and convince cricket to do it. Again, all the while Frank's face is just getting more puffy and swollen as he jams stuff up his nose to stop the bleeding. Finally, as he trying to drive the float, he realizes it isn't working and he can't keep going on like this.
We see him re-enter Mac's apartment with blood all over his shirt and his face no longer swollen. He explains to Mac that he realizes what Mac needs to do. Mac needs to be able to let out his feelings, much like Frank needed to let the blood out of his nose.
Cut to the prison and Frank has set up a stage and convinced the prisoners (including Mac's dad) to watch Mac perform what he's feeling inside. He tells his Dad he's gay, it quickly cuts to black. For the rest of the episode, Mac and a female dancer perform this amazingly beautiful and poignant dance while water falls around them. There's no sound or music. Just the water and the sounds of them dancing and its incredible. No jokes. Nothing undercuts it. Its a gorgeous dance that portrays Mac's inner turmoil. At the end, Mac crumbles into the arms of his partner and cries, while she strokes his hair and says "Its ok, It's ok" over and over.
During all of this there are cuts back to Frank and the convicts watching in awe. Frank begins to cry towards the end. And when its over, declares through his tears and the beginning of scatted applause "Oh my God. I get it. I get it."
Then it ends.
The episode earned that ending, too. While its a tonal shift for the series in general, throughout the episode it was like Mac was acting in a drama while everyone else was typical IASIP. Looking back, I remember thinking that Mac was acting weird, but was just expecting some payoff. I did not expect the payoff that the show delivered.
so I saw people talking about the Sunny finale and watched the sequence in question
I haven't watched Sunny in about 8 years
what they just did was brave
I've seen shows get called brave before, I've called them brave before, but what I really mean is true, or accurate, or surprising, or just digging deeper than you'd expect
but Sunny just threw caution to the wind, committed hard to something extremely difficult that might have failed at any juncture, and took an honest to God leap of faith in order to do the right thing
they were brave
While the sequence itself is powerful, I think its even more powerful in the context of the show and for regular IASIP watchers. I kept waiting for them to pull the rug out. For some joke to happen either during it or shortly after. But it never came. I'm glad it never came. But combining me waiting for the other shoe to drop with the tonal whiplash I was experiencing resulted in me being so engaged with the scene that I felt like I was there. No music, just the sounds of water and the dancers and the beautiful imagery were all more vibrant as a result of the show using its tools to really pull me in a way that I don't think any other show could create like this. No other show has 13 years of their kind of history of jokes to create the expectation of one thing and then do the complete opposite.
How crazy is it that I didnt remember any music? I mean, when clicked on the youtube video, I remember it now. But my memory had no recollection of it because everything else was so ... I dont know.
I believe everyone when they say it's earned and really well done
but on paper it sounds just awful! like, the exact antithesis of everything I would come to that show for
It literally is the antithesis of everything IASIP. 2/3 of the show wasn't, but the last 1/3 was. And like I said above, I think that's what makes it more beautiful? That being said, I doubt this marks some greater change for the series. I would bet that IASIP will be right back to its normal self next season. They just saw a powerful, unique, and genius way to end this season and it worked.
Apparently HBO's Watchmen show is at least partially set in the modern day, and Jeremy Irons will be playing Old Ozymandias
Buh?
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The finale of always sunny was stunning. My interpretation of
the dance is that, like Mac's confused explanation earlier, it's not necessarily intended to make sense or have a one-to-one meaning that can easily be mapped onto "oh, it means this". Part of the point is that Mac doesn't know how he feels, can't say how he feels and the dance represents him abstractly demonstrating the raw emotions that he's feeling. The important thing isn't what the dance means, it's that it was performed. It's that he put everything out there in the toughest possible setting and those emotions were seen and understood.
Danny Devito isn't getting enough credit, either.
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While I haven't seen the episode yet, I am happy to hear that It's Always Sunny continues to be the boldest (and arguably, the best) sitcom on TV right now.
I recommend everyone watch it without finding out too much about it beforehand, even if you've never watched the show before. Stick with it if you feel like turning it off.
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Well shit. This makes me want to start It's Always Sunny now.
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Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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The finale of always sunny was stunning. My interpretation of
the dance is that, like Mac's confused explanation earlier, it's not necessarily intended to make sense or have a one-to-one meaning that can easily be mapped onto "oh, it means this". Part of the point is that Mac doesn't know how he feels, can't say how he feels and the dance represents him abstractly demonstrating the raw emotions that he's feeling. The important thing isn't what the dance means, it's that it was performed. It's that he put everything out there in the toughest possible setting and those emotions were seen and understood.
Danny Devito isn't getting enough credit, either.
This Vulture article/interview (spoilers, so don't even look at the url if you want to watch the episode blindly) is pretty in-depth and insightful
David Simon is adapting the Philip Roth novel The Plot Against America as a 6 hour miniseries for HBO
The Plot Against America imagines an alternate American history told through the eyes of a working-class Jewish family in New Jersey as they watch the political rise of Charles Lindbergh, an aviator hero and xenophobic populist who becomes president and turns the nation toward fascism
Co-written with Ed Burns (The Wire)
The first season of It's Always Sunny is good but it's not what it becomes in the second season with the addition of DeVito, that by itself makes it worth sticking with.
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The finale of always sunny was stunning. My interpretation of
the dance is that, like Mac's confused explanation earlier, it's not necessarily intended to make sense or have a one-to-one meaning that can easily be mapped onto "oh, it means this". Part of the point is that Mac doesn't know how he feels, can't say how he feels and the dance represents him abstractly demonstrating the raw emotions that he's feeling. The important thing isn't what the dance means, it's that it was performed. It's that he put everything out there in the toughest possible setting and those emotions were seen and understood.
Danny Devito isn't getting enough credit, either.
This Vulture article/interview (spoilers, so don't even look at the url if you want to watch the episode blindly) is pretty in-depth and insightful
The most relevant clip to this discussion is behind this link, and while I'm not big fan of IASiP, I must say, I'm impressed. Kylie Shea does some absolutely exemplary work there, the best I've seen in a while.
For something that is deliberately confused in its messaging, there are a bunch of interpretations that fit really well. The female partner could represent his femininity (as divorced from the toxic, masculine parts of his personality) and his sexuality, a beautiful and different part of himself from his hyper-masculine physical body. When he shows that part of himself and is rejected by his father, that part of him celebrates him and literally tells him that it's ok, culminating in the final lift of the dance literally being a proud display of that side of him.
Like, what the fuck does episode 14 of this show look like now? They should probably stop here! Mac has achieved catharsis, and even Frank seems transformed.
This is my first time checking in on the show in a while, and I saw Megan Ganz is an EP - good for her! She's great!
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minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
Okay, yeah, I'm down with that. My biggest complaint with Rogue One was that his character felt a little flat because he didn't have enough backstory. I'm all in for filling out that backstory some more.
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Set in 2020, follows an elite international cell of occult freedom fighters dedicated to the creation of a better world for everyone...by any means necessary
No network attached yet
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Hes adapting it so ideally it'll work despite the changes
The ending clearly went over my head, but I'm reading replies to Rob McElroy's twitter and it clearly resonated with many people in the way it was meant to, which is awesome.
Cross-posting from the IASIP thread in D&D:
(FWIW, I would recommend no one read this. Watch the episode. My stupid writeup here doesn't do it justice, imo)
We see him re-enter Mac's apartment with blood all over his shirt and his face no longer swollen. He explains to Mac that he realizes what Mac needs to do. Mac needs to be able to let out his feelings, much like Frank needed to let the blood out of his nose.
Cut to the prison and Frank has set up a stage and convinced the prisoners (including Mac's dad) to watch Mac perform what he's feeling inside. He tells his Dad he's gay, it quickly cuts to black. For the rest of the episode, Mac and a female dancer perform this amazingly beautiful and poignant dance while water falls around them. There's no sound or music. Just the water and the sounds of them dancing and its incredible. No jokes. Nothing undercuts it. Its a gorgeous dance that portrays Mac's inner turmoil. At the end, Mac crumbles into the arms of his partner and cries, while she strokes his hair and says "Its ok, It's ok" over and over.
During all of this there are cuts back to Frank and the convicts watching in awe. Frank begins to cry towards the end. And when its over, declares through his tears and the beginning of scatted applause "Oh my God. I get it. I get it."
Then it ends.
The episode earned that ending, too. While its a tonal shift for the series in general, throughout the episode it was like Mac was acting in a drama while everyone else was typical IASIP. Looking back, I remember thinking that Mac was acting weird, but was just expecting some payoff. I did not expect the payoff that the show delivered.
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but on paper it sounds just awful! like, the exact antithesis of everything I would come to that show for
While the sequence itself is powerful, I think its even more powerful in the context of the show and for regular IASIP watchers. I kept waiting for them to pull the rug out. For some joke to happen either during it or shortly after. But it never came. I'm glad it never came. But combining me waiting for the other shoe to drop with the tonal whiplash I was experiencing resulted in me being so engaged with the scene that I felt like I was there. No music, just the sounds of water and the dancers and the beautiful imagery were all more vibrant as a result of the show using its tools to really pull me in a way that I don't think any other show could create like this. No other show has 13 years of their kind of history of jokes to create the expectation of one thing and then do the complete opposite.
It was genius.
How crazy is it that I didnt remember any music? I mean, when clicked on the youtube video, I remember it now. But my memory had no recollection of it because everything else was so ... I dont know.
It literally is the antithesis of everything IASIP. 2/3 of the show wasn't, but the last 1/3 was. And like I said above, I think that's what makes it more beautiful? That being said, I doubt this marks some greater change for the series. I would bet that IASIP will be right back to its normal self next season. They just saw a powerful, unique, and genius way to end this season and it worked.
I am not a zombie fan at all and didn't really think I would be into another zombie show
Turns out, a medieval Korean political drama but with zombies is kinda rad looking
Buh?
Cause there are set photos that show period piece Tulsa which is where the first anti-super riots occurred in the fiction
And then there are more recent set photos showing modern day shit like buses advertising a Hooded Justice documentary and the Old Man Ozy shit
I'm more interested in whatever they are doing versus just another straight up adaptation of Watchmen, at least
Danny Devito isn't getting enough credit, either.
This Vulture article/interview (spoilers, so don't even look at the url if you want to watch the episode blindly) is pretty in-depth and insightful
The Plot Against America imagines an alternate American history told through the eyes of a working-class Jewish family in New Jersey as they watch the political rise of Charles Lindbergh, an aviator hero and xenophobic populist who becomes president and turns the nation toward fascism
Co-written with Ed Burns (The Wire)
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The most relevant clip to this discussion is behind this link, and while I'm not big fan of IASiP, I must say, I'm impressed. Kylie Shea does some absolutely exemplary work there, the best I've seen in a while.
Like, what the fuck does episode 14 of this show look like now? They should probably stop here! Mac has achieved catharsis, and even Frank seems transformed.
This is my first time checking in on the show in a while, and I saw Megan Ganz is an EP - good for her! She's great!
Yes, it is always funny.
I need to get caught up. I fell off when they jumped to FXX because my cable provider at the time didn’t get it for some reason.
The rumored Loki series starting Tom Hiddleston is also confirmed to be in the works
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