Hannity is shitty and awful, but what he's saying isn't illegal at all. It's actually not substantially different from saying "don't talk to the cops, they'll just try to pin something on you," which, in certain circumstances, wouldn't be terribly inaccurate.
I mean, the difference is that he's only saying this because the FBI is going after people on his team, but there's no credible way to spin this as illegal.
I think it's more significant because he's not denying crimes happened! He's not denying that people know crimes happened!
I also wonder if the legal calculus changes if he becomes an indicted co-conspirator.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
One recalls that Michael Cohen represents Mr. Hannity as well... Or, rather, formerly represented. *Smug guffaw*
One recalls that Michael Cohen represents Mr. Hannity as well... Or, rather, formerly represented. *Smug guffaw*
If Hannity is involved in this investigation to any degree, which isn't unlikely (the dude became Trump's unofficial advisor a while ago), Mueller's going to flip him like a pancake within 2 minutes.
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
Smug Guffaw sounds like a darkhorse GOP primary candidate
I take issue with the -gate suffix as a matter of pedantic annoyance, but using it with Mueller is, just
What’s the scandal? Is it that he exists? Maybe that he is catching so many criminals?
The original Watergate scandal, the one that apparently made us all collectively drop about 65 IQ points and use half the hotel name to dumb future scandal names down (because otherwise nobody would know what the hell anyone was talking about when they reference wrongdoing, I guess), was about breaking into a political opponents’ headquarters, which unraveled all kinds of other Nixon nastiness like bugging, wiretapping, etc.
Clearly an investigator uncovering crimes, prosecuting criminals, and getting justice for the American people are similarly salacious and heinous
It’s the kind of thing that drives me insane because it’s not just stupid, it’s maliciously stupid
One recalls that Michael Cohen represents Mr. Hannity as well... Or, rather, formerly represented. *Smug guffaw*
Yeah, but if anything was going to come outta that I assume Sean would have got swept up in it already. I suspect he was a client for the same reasons as the others; for paying off a mistress, but ultimately it's none of our business. Sean is a sad little bully's lackey no doubt, and I hope to hell he sees repercussions for becoming the defacto Trump administration propagandist, but it doesn't seem like he has much of anything to do with Mueller's investigation. Though my god that tan is fucking awful, I swear someone screwed with that image.
I take issue with the -gate suffix as a matter of pedantic annoyance, but using it with Mueller is, just
What’s the scandal? Is it that he exists? Maybe that he is catching so many criminals?
The original Watergate scandal, the one that apparently made us all collectively drop about 65 IQ points and use half the hotel name to dumb future scandal names down (because otherwise nobody would know what the hell anyone was talking about when they reference wrongdoing, I guess), was about breaking into a political opponents’ headquarters, which unraveled all kinds of other Nixon nastiness like bugging, wiretapping, etc.
Clearly an investigator uncovering crimes, prosecuting criminals, and getting justice for the American people are similarly salacious and heinous
It’s the kind of thing that drives me insane because it’s not just stupid, it’s maliciously stupid
The whole "gate" suffix was designed for this purpose. It was coined by William Safire, a conservative columnist at the New York Times, who basically kept trying to make "gate" happen. He used it from "Vietgate" (pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers in the 1970s) through to "Whitewatergate" (Clinton "scandal" from the 1990s).
I take issue with the -gate suffix as a matter of pedantic annoyance, but using it with Mueller is, just
What’s the scandal? Is it that he exists? Maybe that he is catching so many criminals?
The original Watergate scandal, the one that apparently made us all collectively drop about 65 IQ points and use half the hotel name to dumb future scandal names down (because otherwise nobody would know what the hell anyone was talking about when they reference wrongdoing, I guess), was about breaking into a political opponents’ headquarters, which unraveled all kinds of other Nixon nastiness like bugging, wiretapping, etc.
Clearly an investigator uncovering crimes, prosecuting criminals, and getting justice for the American people are similarly salacious and heinous
It’s the kind of thing that drives me insane because it’s not just stupid, it’s maliciously stupid
The whole "gate" suffix was designed for this purpose. It was coined by William Safire, a conservative columnist at the New York Times, who basically kept trying to make "gate" happen. He used it from "Vietgate" (pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers in the 1970s) through to "Whitewatergate" (Clinton "scandal" from the 1990s).
Well it's come full circle at this point considering the parallels with watergate.
I take issue with the -gate suffix as a matter of pedantic annoyance, but using it with Mueller is, just
What’s the scandal? Is it that he exists? Maybe that he is catching so many criminals?
The original Watergate scandal, the one that apparently made us all collectively drop about 65 IQ points and use half the hotel name to dumb future scandal names down (because otherwise nobody would know what the hell anyone was talking about when they reference wrongdoing, I guess), was about breaking into a political opponents’ headquarters, which unraveled all kinds of other Nixon nastiness like bugging, wiretapping, etc.
Clearly an investigator uncovering crimes, prosecuting criminals, and getting justice for the American people are similarly salacious and heinous
It’s the kind of thing that drives me insane because it’s not just stupid, it’s maliciously stupid
Yeah, I miss calling everything "the ___ affair". It just has such a flourish.
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Since Hannity and Trump are best buds on the phone, wouldn't that make a direct link between him and the subject of investigation? Ergo, his remarks are obstruction ?
Cluck cluck, gibber gibber, my old man's a mushroom, etc.
I’m pretty sure a private citizen like Sean can tell people to not talk to cops all day long.
We do it in this forum regularly. It’s practically a contractual obligation that someone posts the “don’t talk to the cops” YouTube link every time the topic comes up.
No, our forum doesn’t reach millions of people. No, none of us (that I know of..) are potentially about to be involved (if not indicted) in Mueller’s investigation. There are plenty of ways to nitpick how this isn’t a perfect 1:1 situation.
But at a base level, “don’t talk to the cops” might as well be our tag line here. For that alone this Hannity thing gets a big eye roll. For now.
If it’s actually potentially obstructiony, well, good thing he just did it on tv. It’ll make having a copy to play at the trial super easy to obtain.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
I’m pretty sure a private citizen like Sean can tell people to not talk to cops all day long.
We do it in this forum regularly. It’s practically a contractual obligation that someone posts the “don’t talk to the cops” YouTube link every time the topic comes up.
No, our forum doesn’t reach millions of people. No, none of us (that I know of..) are potentially about to be involved (if not indicted) in Mueller’s investigation. There are plenty of ways to nitpick how this isn’t a perfect 1:1 situation.
But at a base level, “don’t talk to the cops” might as well be our tag line here. For that alone this Hannity thing gets a big eye roll. For now.
If it’s actually potentially obstructiony, well, good thing he just did it on tv. It’ll make having a copy to play at the trial super easy to obtain.
We say don't talk to cops to mean don't do it without a lawyer.
He's saying don't do it at all, ever, especially if you know anything.
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You can’t even fucking say “the Trump Tower meeting” now without clarifying if you’re talking about the meeting with the Russians at Trump Tower in NY to discuss the Clinton dirt or the meeting with the Russians about Trump Tower Moscow to discuss the Putin penthouse.
It remains to be seen if Trump can Gish Gallop his scandals sufficiently to “Three Stooges” up the doorway to justice, but he has definitely succeeded in jamming up the doorway to linguistic ease.
At least “the Mueller investigation” benefits from the fact that Mueller has a tighter mandate than “all the crimes ever,” even though that mandate is just “Russian interference in the election, but also any crimes you happen to find along the way.”
We say don't talk to cops to mean don't do it without a lawyer.
He's saying don't do it at all, ever, especially if you know anything.
Perhaps so, but that’s not a level of nuance I expect from said contractually obligated re-linking.
You might mean it. Maybe many do. Almost nobody (that I can recall) does much more than that. “Don’t talk to the police, link video, collect agrees”
And that might well be an important distinction I had overlooked, one that hopefully some of the regulars who do so will keep in mind the next time the topic comes up.
But without some local law folk weighing in, I think calling it a crime is a bit far.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
What a wild time to be alive when "stop snitchin'" is the conservative line.
Isn't this eminently illegal?
Illegal. No. This is basically the equivelent of the hood saying don't snitch or F the Police.
But to Mueller I picture him like Arnold in the hotel room of the motel in Terminator. Hannity being Hannity on TV and his Terminator vision cycling through responses.
The indicator lands on "Indict this Ass Hole" and his hand moves to a folder labeled Sean Hannity
I feel bad for Mueller. Seems to be a Republican genuinely interested in doing the right thing, is now basically public enemy #1 for the President and his administration and the entire right-wing spin machine treats him like dirt.
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This isn't the first time Hannity has said for people to not speak to the FBI / Mueller investigation. He's clearly being ignored.
It should be called the Trump Affair because around here to "trump" is to fart, as in "who's trumped in here then?" and this will provide me extensive personal amusement.
I mean, I really, really dislike the -gate suffix on every political scandal but as Captain Inertia said...
This is almost literally exactly Watergate. It started with the person who went on to become the President of the United States openly calling for Foreign agents to steal incriminating documents on public television, and now it's coming to light that foreign agents did exactly that!
And then the President either fires or talks about firing all the people who would investigate him for this act!
I feel bad for Mueller. Seems to be a Republican genuinely interested in doing the right thing, is now basically public enemy #1 for the President and his administration and the entire right-wing spin machine treats him like dirt.
Mueller strikes me as the type of person who literally LIVES FOR THIS SHIT, party lines be damned.
This whole thing is justice PORN. The type of stuff people dream of doing when joining the FBI.
I bet he’s quietly having a blast.
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I’m pretty sure a private citizen like Sean can tell people to not talk to cops all day long.
We do it in this forum regularly. It’s practically a contractual obligation that someone posts the “don’t talk to the cops” YouTube link every time the topic comes up.
No, our forum doesn’t reach millions of people. No, none of us (that I know of..) are potentially about to be involved (if not indicted) in Mueller’s investigation. There are plenty of ways to nitpick how this isn’t a perfect 1:1 situation.
But at a base level, “don’t talk to the cops” might as well be our tag line here. For that alone this Hannity thing gets a big eye roll. For now.
If it’s actually potentially obstructiony, well, good thing he just did it on tv. It’ll make having a copy to play at the trial super easy to obtain.
We say don't talk to cops to mean don't do it without a lawyer.
He's saying don't do it at all, ever, especially if you know anything.
I actually mean don't talk to cops ever.
It's perfectly legal and it's a good thing it is legal. You're not obligated to talk to the cops, you're just not allowed to lie to them.
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I also wonder if the legal calculus changes if he becomes an indicted co-conspirator.
If Hannity is involved in this investigation to any degree, which isn't unlikely (the dude became Trump's unofficial advisor a while ago), Mueller's going to flip him like a pancake within 2 minutes.
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Isn't this eminently illegal?
I certainly hope Mr. Hannity isn't doing this at the behest of the President of the United States who is under scrutiny in that investigation.
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I take issue with the -gate suffix as a matter of pedantic annoyance, but using it with Mueller is, just
What’s the scandal? Is it that he exists? Maybe that he is catching so many criminals?
The original Watergate scandal, the one that apparently made us all collectively drop about 65 IQ points and use half the hotel name to dumb future scandal names down (because otherwise nobody would know what the hell anyone was talking about when they reference wrongdoing, I guess), was about breaking into a political opponents’ headquarters, which unraveled all kinds of other Nixon nastiness like bugging, wiretapping, etc.
Clearly an investigator uncovering crimes, prosecuting criminals, and getting justice for the American people are similarly salacious and heinous
It’s the kind of thing that drives me insane because it’s not just stupid, it’s maliciously stupid
Yeah, but if anything was going to come outta that I assume Sean would have got swept up in it already. I suspect he was a client for the same reasons as the others; for paying off a mistress, but ultimately it's none of our business. Sean is a sad little bully's lackey no doubt, and I hope to hell he sees repercussions for becoming the defacto Trump administration propagandist, but it doesn't seem like he has much of anything to do with Mueller's investigation. Though my god that tan is fucking awful, I swear someone screwed with that image.
Though that Sean is out there saying "hey criminals stop talking" is kind of a bad like PR thing for the Trump admin.
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The whole "gate" suffix was designed for this purpose. It was coined by William Safire, a conservative columnist at the New York Times, who basically kept trying to make "gate" happen. He used it from "Vietgate" (pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers in the 1970s) through to "Whitewatergate" (Clinton "scandal" from the 1990s).
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Well it's come full circle at this point considering the parallels with watergate.
Yeah, I miss calling everything "the ___ affair". It just has such a flourish.
We're way past Watergate.
Watergate was the theft of internal DNC documents in order to assist in GOP campaigns. Like... internal DNC emails, for example.
We're at some weird super-mutant Watergate/Teapot Dome/Trail of Tears/Holocaust hybrid with extra treason.
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We do it in this forum regularly. It’s practically a contractual obligation that someone posts the “don’t talk to the cops” YouTube link every time the topic comes up.
No, our forum doesn’t reach millions of people. No, none of us (that I know of..) are potentially about to be involved (if not indicted) in Mueller’s investigation. There are plenty of ways to nitpick how this isn’t a perfect 1:1 situation.
But at a base level, “don’t talk to the cops” might as well be our tag line here. For that alone this Hannity thing gets a big eye roll. For now.
If it’s actually potentially obstructiony, well, good thing he just did it on tv. It’ll make having a copy to play at the trial super easy to obtain.
which one
"The Trump Matter" maybe?
We say don't talk to cops to mean don't do it without a lawyer.
He's saying don't do it at all, ever, especially if you know anything.
It remains to be seen if Trump can Gish Gallop his scandals sufficiently to “Three Stooges” up the doorway to justice, but he has definitely succeeded in jamming up the doorway to linguistic ease.
At least “the Mueller investigation” benefits from the fact that Mueller has a tighter mandate than “all the crimes ever,” even though that mandate is just “Russian interference in the election, but also any crimes you happen to find along the way.”
Perhaps so, but that’s not a level of nuance I expect from said contractually obligated re-linking.
You might mean it. Maybe many do. Almost nobody (that I can recall) does much more than that. “Don’t talk to the police, link video, collect agrees”
And that might well be an important distinction I had overlooked, one that hopefully some of the regulars who do so will keep in mind the next time the topic comes up.
But without some local law folk weighing in, I think calling it a crime is a bit far.
He's making more general statements
It's not criminal
Illegal. No. This is basically the equivelent of the hood saying don't snitch or F the Police.
But to Mueller I picture him like Arnold in the hotel room of the motel in Terminator. Hannity being Hannity on TV and his Terminator vision cycling through responses.
The indicator lands on "Indict this Ass Hole" and his hand moves to a folder labeled Sean Hannity
What I'm saying is that Guffaw would be a one-term governor rather than a Senator. :razz:
Because the world and especially America would be a whole lot different, if the Mayflower had never reached its shores?
Because the suspicious meeting took place at the Mayflower hotel.
The Mayflower Meeting... Mayflower Conspiracy?
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I know - Was just an attempt at a pithy joke .
It’s not a -gate situation because the crimes are basically the 21st century equivalent of the original, including some of the original figures even!
But also so so incredibly stupid.
I've officially called dibs on "Peepot Dome" if that kompromat tape ever comes out.
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This is almost literally exactly Watergate. It started with the person who went on to become the President of the United States openly calling for Foreign agents to steal incriminating documents on public television, and now it's coming to light that foreign agents did exactly that!
And then the President either fires or talks about firing all the people who would investigate him for this act!
Looks like Trump wanted that and also had a vested business interest in it too
Mueller strikes me as the type of person who literally LIVES FOR THIS SHIT, party lines be damned.
This whole thing is justice PORN. The type of stuff people dream of doing when joining the FBI.
I bet he’s quietly having a blast.
I actually mean don't talk to cops ever.
It's perfectly legal and it's a good thing it is legal. You're not obligated to talk to the cops, you're just not allowed to lie to them.
The Mayflower treason and plot.