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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Hmm

    shorthop shortcut definitely lends itself to using the GC controller over a pro

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Mega Man is going to take some getting used to.

    He seems to be all about staying at range (most of his ground attacks seem kind of awkward to use at close range) but my instincts keep drawing me to close the distance.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Mega Man is going to take some getting used to.

    He seems to be all about staying at range (most of his ground attacks seem kind of awkward to use at close range) but my instincts keep drawing me to close the distance.

    His pellets having no stopping power is really weird, and I've decided I don't like it.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Unlocked Ike and found out that one of the costumes for his PoR version is his Lord outfit. Guess that settles which Ike I'll be playing as!

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    I remember feeling a guilty about liking Mii Swordfighter in Smash 4. But damn it, he's still super fun and good in Ultimate. And playing dress-up and trying different movesets is fun.

    I just unlocked this dude in world of light and was really surprised at how much I'm enjoying him. I hadn't really loved any of the characters I had unlocked so far but he's got a really fun kit. And customizeable! Agree on the feeling guilty thing though.

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    T-DangerT-Danger Registered User regular
    So I sent an email to Nintendo Europe, and shortly afterwards I got the code for Piranha Plant. I'm not sure if that's a response from Nintendo or just good timing, but still, nice.

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    StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Kelor wrote: »
    Stragint wrote: »
    Is there a recommended moveset for the mii brawler?

    I was messing around with it and it's possible to chain almost all his specials into one combo.

    I think it was the charging kicks into the drop kick into the sliding kick.

    The kick that charges up is what I used at first but it is so slow. I almost never get a hit off. I have mostly been using the drop kick, downwards headbutt, and the spinning kick up+b attack.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    What is the point of collecting different dojo training types? I can't see any way to switch among them or turn them off. I have about 6 spirits with 3 training styles each and it shows an icon by them like "hooray you learned this style" but it seems like only the most recently learned one is active?

    How the heck do I turn them off or interact with them in any way?

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    What is the point of collecting different dojo training types? I can't see any way to switch among them or turn them off. I have about 6 spirits with 3 training styles each and it shows an icon by them like "hooray you learned this style" but it seems like only the most recently learned one is active?

    How the heck do I turn them off or interact with them in any way?
    I haven't tried any of the fighting styles myself. Don't really want the cons of any of them.

    Theres a dojo run by Slowpoke where he'll erase and return them to default for you.

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    DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Hmm

    shorthop shortcut definitely lends itself to using the GC controller over a pro

    I am having definite issues trying to shorthop on the joycons. It's giving me a lot of trouble with Yoshi.

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    Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    https://youtu.be/C7UzTwXP0fw

    So yeah, I did this and unlocked most of the characters. Haha. Also I did not realize you could re-challenge fighters you lost to! I COULD HAVE BEEN PLAYING AS ZERO SUIT THIS WHOLE TIME!

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Kind of an important question but does anyone know if Ryu's hadouken is affected by magic damage spirits or energy damage spirits?

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    Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    More important question: Is Ryu a wizard

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    More important question: Is Ryu a wizard

    a muscle wizard

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    ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    So I ended up just starting all 3 save files on World of Light. each one picking a different path at the start, just so I could unlock more stuff at the beginning.

    The good news is all the Spirits (not playable characters) carry over between them, so you can use that to level up a bunch of stuff early and get some more options.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Ryu is Jesus and Akuma is Satan

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    KupiKupi Registered User regular
    Hey everyone! Remember how I said I would post the results of The First (and Last) Penny-Arcade Smash 5 Roster Prediction Game Run By Kupi on Saturday, after I'd had time to check if Kass ever appears on the Breath of the Wild Stage?

    It's still technically Saturday in Eastern Standard Time, which means that I didn't actually forget about the contest because I was too busy playing Smash Ultimate.

    And despite spending about ten minutes beating on Link while the background music was very specifically set to Kass's Theme, I saw no hint of the accordion-playing b[a/i]rd, despite the old man of the plateau pulling several flybys. Which means that all of the predictions have converged to a final verdict. And for that matter, all verdicts are now final. I am done with this. But not so done that I'm going to forgo one last spin around a joke I've long since run into the ground. Here it is, everyone:

    The First (and Last) Penny-Arcade Smash 5 Roster Prediction Game Run By Kupi
    FINAL RESULTS


    Not a single one of the game's nine participants managed a positive score. But there was one person, just one person, whose score was least worst. And that person's strategy of only putting a couple guesses in there to begin with has led them to the top of the TF(aL)P-AS5RPGRBK scoreboard. Everyone else, please politely applaud from your small boxes at the bottom of the screen.

    This game's winner is...
    @Nitsua!

    Congratuations, Nitsua. You are now officially certified as the Penny-Arcade message board's most accurate Smash roster prognosticator.

    For what that's worth.

    And for the rest of us, here's the final scoreboard:
    Nitsua       -4
    Zombie Hero  -5
    Zek          -6
    Maz-        -10
    Kizmitt     -10
    Kupi        -19
    BlueBlue    -20
    Cruor       -25
    T-Danger    -25
    

    And if for some reason you're interested in the specifics of where everyone lost their points, this is the final readout from my results program, minus the output of the special bonus awards.
    NEWCOMERS
    TRUE: Ridley
    Kizmitt gains 5 points.
    T-Danger gains 4 points.
    Maz- gains 3 points.
    Zek gains 2 points.
    Kupi gains 2 points.

    TRUE: Daisy

    TRUE: Inkling
    BlueBlue gains 5 points.
    Zek gains 5 points.
    Zombie Hero gains 5 points.
    Cruor gains 5 points.
    Kupi gains 5 points.

    TRUE: Ice Climbers
    BlueBlue gains 5 points.
    Zek gains 5 points.
    Cruor gains 5 points.
    T-Danger gains 5 points.
    Kupi gains 5 points.
    Maz- gains 5 points.
    Zombie Hero gains 2 points.

    TRUE: Wolf
    BlueBlue gains 5 points.
    Cruor gains 5 points.
    T-Danger gains 4 points.
    Kupi gains 3 points.
    Zombie Hero gains 1 point.

    TRUE: King K. Rool
    Nitsua gains 5 points.
    Cruor gains 2 points.
    T-Danger gains 2 points.
    Kupi gains 1 point.

    TRUE: Simon Belmont
    Kupi gains 1 point.

    TRUE: Richter

    TRUE: Dark Samus
    T-Danger gains 1 point.

    TRUE: Chrom

    TRUE: Incineroar

    TRUE: Ken

    TRUE: Piranha Plant

    FALSE: Midna
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.

    FALSE: Bomberman
    Cruor loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Waluigi
    Cruor loses 5 points.
    T-Danger loses 1 point.
    Nitsua loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Takamaru
    Cruor loses 3 points.
    Kupi loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Sukapon
    Kupi loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Shovel Knight
    T-Danger loses 4 points.
    Maz- loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Eevee
    Kizmitt loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Spring Man
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.
    Zek loses 5 points.
    Cruor loses 5 points.
    T-Danger loses 4 points.
    Kupi loses 4 points.
    Maz- loses 4 points.

    FALSE: Rex
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.
    Maz- loses 5 points.
    T-Danger loses 4 points.
    Kupi loses 4 points.

    FALSE: Pyra
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.
    T-Danger loses 4 points.
    Zombie Hero loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Rex and Pyra

    FALSE: Chorus Kids
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.

    FALSE: Decidueye
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.
    T-Danger loses 5 points.
    Kupi loses 4 points.
    Maz- loses 4 points.
    Cruor loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Wonder Red
    BlueBlue loses 5 points.
    Kupi loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Captain Toad
    Cruor loses 5 points.
    Zek loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Isaac
    Cruor loses 3 points.
    Zek loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Dillon
    Zek loses 1 point.

    FALSE: ARMS Character
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Urbosa
    Cruor loses 2 points.
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Mipha
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Revali
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Daruk
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Octoling
    T-Danger loses 2 points.
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Geno
    Cruor loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Impa
    Cruor loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Linkle
    T-Danger loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Sami
    T-Danger loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Bald Bull
    T-Danger loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Viewtiful Joe
    T-Danger loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Tsubasa Oribe
    T-Danger loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Fire Emblem Three Houses's Lord
    T-Danger loses 3 points.
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Paper Mario
    Kupi loses 3 points.
    Maz- loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Ganon
    Kupi loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Ganondorf (Alt)
    Cruor loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Chibi-Robo
    Kupi loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Celica
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Gen 8 Pokemon
    Kupi loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Crash
    Kizmitt loses 4 points.

    FALSE: Dr. Coyle
    Kizmitt loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Dixie Kong
    Kizmitt loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Excite Bike
    Kizmitt loses 2 points.

    TRUE: -Excite Bike

    FALSE: Sora
    Nitsua loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Rabbid
    Nitsua loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Rayman
    Nitsua loses 4 points.


    CUTS
    FALSE: Dark Pit
    Zek loses 3 points.
    T-Danger loses 2 points.
    Kupi loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Roy
    Zek loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Mewtwo
    Zek loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Corrin
    Cruor loses 5 points.
    Zek loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Doctor Mario
    Cruor loses 3 points.

    FALSE: Mii Fighters
    T-Danger loses 2 points.

    FALSE: Lucina
    T-Danger loses 1 point.


    MICROPREDICTIONS
    TRUE: Game will have a new subtitle (not "Super Smash Bros for Switch")
    Zek gains 1 point.

    TRUE: At least one of Link's B moves will be replaced with a BotW item
    Zek gains 1 point.

    FALSE: Mario's FLUDD will be replaced
    Zek loses 1 point.

    TRUE: Splatoon Stage
    Zombie Hero gains 1 point.

    TRUE: Ridley will appear in a new. unique form (similar to Giga Bowser) which makes him more eligible for Smash.
    T-Danger gains 1 point.

    FALSE: Instead of clones, characters will now have unique skins which turn them into different but similar characters, similar to Olimar and Alph. Dark Pit, Lucina and Dr Mario will reappear as such skins.
    T-Danger loses 1 point.

    TRUE: Stages will have the option to toggle hazards off, and will come in Omega (Final Destination style) and Alpha (Battlefield style) forms
    T-Danger gains 1 point.

    FALSE: Zelda will be re-designed to employ the Champion Powers.
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Link will be re-designed with B-moves taken from his Breath of the Wild incarnation.
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Arms Stage
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Alternative Moves Stay in, but more predictable to collect (not random)
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Alph will be split off to a separate character from Olimar.
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    TRUE: Isaac from Golden Sun will return... as an Assist Trophy.
    Kupi gains 1 point.

    TRUE: Custom moves will be cut entirely
    Maz- gains 1 point.

    FALSE: There won't be a new singleplayer-focused mode ala Subspace Emissary or Adventure Mode
    Maz- loses 1 point.

    TRUE: The return of Adventure mode
    Nitsua gains 1 point.

    FALSE: There will be an Adventure Mode similar to Melee's.
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    TRUE: Older characters such as Mario, Link, Kirby etc will receive new moves based on their most recent games.
    T-Danger gains 1 point.

    FALSE: Peach, Mario, and Bowser will have wedding alternate costume
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Funky Kong as alternate costume for Donkey Kong
    Kizmitt loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Costumes/skins for characters will be unlockable or DLC.
    T-Danger loses 1 point.

    TRUE: Smash Tour is removed
    Zek gains 1 point.

    FALSE: Cappy will be represented by a new item
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Smash run will return, board game gone
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Smash Run will be a single-player mode.
    Kupi loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Headlok as item
    Kizmitt loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Nia assist trophy
    Kizmitt loses 1 point.

    TRUE: At least half of the stages will be retreads from Wii U/3DS
    Zombie Hero gains 1 point.

    FALSE: A Mario odyssey stage that will feature the T-Rex as a stage hazard
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    FALSE: Single player modes will include an Adventure Mode featuring levels based on the various Nintendo franchises, similar to Melee's Adventure mode.
    T-Danger loses 1 point.

    FALSE: There will be a BotW stage where Kass plays music in background
    Zombie Hero loses 1 point.

    Thanks for playing, everyone! It's been... a thing!

    My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    I'm streamin' smash and gonna play multi with @visiblehowl and anyone else who wants to hop in with us. !friendcode in my chat to get my code, add me, and then join the lobby! @milski @Elendil @RonaldoTheGypsy


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    RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    I probably won’t be getting Smash until Christmas. Hopefully by then there will be some good guides for unlocks. I want Zero Suit Samus and Ridley as soon as possible. Everything else I’m willing to discover on my own.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2018
    I made a quick poll for tournament times.

    We may do multiple tournaments so vote honestly!

    https://linkto.run/p/4O2XGN4C

    Sterica on
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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    I played a few online games

    Simons slow wind ups on attacks does not seem to translate well to multi-smash fights, but he does well in 1v1 play.

    Javen on
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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Found out the hard way Bowser's side special doesn't give you the win if you're the last two and both on one stock.

    :(

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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    I know it's old hat by now, seeing as Final Smash has been a thing in the past few games, but DK's headbutt into ground/Final Smash is a really great combo if you can't quite be sure you'll nail it.

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    Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    Seems the fastest way to unlock specific characters is via classic (not counting the first couple in WOL).

    This chart shows what character unlocks what: https://goo.gl/images/TD2txz

    The interesting part is say Mario unlocks Link and Link unlocks Samus. If Link is already unlocked Mario will then unlock Samus.

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    GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    You start with Samus, though...? edit: and Link

    GreasyKidsStuff on
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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    You start with Samus, though...? edit: and Link

    It was an example of the way the system works for other unlocks.

    UncleSporky on
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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Haven't unlocked yet, only got my ass kicked by him so far but K Rool's gut check guard/counter seems absolutely brutal.

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    You start with Samus, though...? edit: and Link

    It was an example of the way the system works for other unlocks.

    You could just replace Link and Samus with Sonic and Bayonetta like it actually is. After looking at that chart for a bit I just assumed they'd read something wrong

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    A character that I always feel bad that I don't really enjoy playing is Mario.

    The Cape and FLUDD specials are just too weird for me. I get what they're for I'm just kind of eh on them, I want direct damage.

    The coin uppercut is still one of the most satisfying moves in the series though.

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    JibbaJibba Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Some of these WoL fights can die in a fire. Really unenjoyable and aggravating.

    It's like they took every bullshit blue shell ever thrown in Mario Kart, and channeled it into a few fights.

    Jibba on
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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    Anyone found a better way to grind SP other than just rotating around underleveled spirits and grinding 2*s?

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Jibba wrote: »
    Some of these WoL fights can die in a fire. Really unenjoyable and aggravating.
    Come back to them later with better counters, gains from the skill tree and higher powered spirits.

    Some are just meant to be a real uphill battle until you do.

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    JibbaJibba Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Jibba wrote: »
    Some of these WoL fights can die in a fire. Really unenjoyable and aggravating.
    Come back to them later with better counters, gains from the skill tree and higher powered spirits.

    Some are just meant to be a real uphill battle until you do.

    I'm running with 99 spirits for all types. I'm around 10k power.

    Fights like 9 & 18-Volt are just stupid. I eventually beat it, but I still loathe the design philosophy that went into that.

    I'm genuinely curious if anyone's beaten it on Hard. I did it on Normal.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    Some of them it's just best to switch to Easy.

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    Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Yacht Club Games finding Shovel Knight for the first time ingame:

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
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    Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    You start with Samus, though...? edit: and Link

    It was an example of the way the system works for other unlocks.

    You could just replace Link and Samus with Sonic and Bayonetta like it actually is. After looking at that chart for a bit I just assumed they'd read something wrong

    I could have but considering it's been out for less then 3 days I figured I'd be a bit vague on what exactly unlocks what.

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Road Block wrote: »
    You start with Samus, though...? edit: and Link

    It was an example of the way the system works for other unlocks.

    You could just replace Link and Samus with Sonic and Bayonetta like it actually is. After looking at that chart for a bit I just assumed they'd read something wrong

    I could have but considering it's been out for less then 3 days I figured I'd be a bit vague on what exactly unlocks what.

    It gave the USB Gnomes a chance to swap out from the tired, lazy ones to a fresh team.
    I have no idea! :P

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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    Does Mario not do the spin move anymore?

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    AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    Played WoL for... several hours today. I'm actually finding it really addictive and I think I might actually be picking up some new skills with some of these crazy fights. So far the two most difficult have been The Boss, who I somehow beat with just 4hp remaining, and Paulina who I swear took 20 some odd tries.

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