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[MTG] Modern Horizons spoilers happening now!

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    astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    That sure seems like a powerful board option for Modern Humans at the very least.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Unless you play Standard, in which case it does almost nothing. (Unless one of the other guilds' mechanic is a discount; Spectacle only is sometimes.)

    It forces Convoke to use at least one land to cast anything, and prevents explosive March of the Multitudes.

    Also stops any creature-based ramp into non-creatures, which isn't totally insignificant. Can't cast a planeswalker or whatever ahead of curve off a Llanowar Elves.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Unless you play Standard, in which case it does almost nothing. (Unless one of the other guilds' mechanic is a discount; Spectacle only is sometimes.)

    It slows down the Golgari lists based on using Llanowar Elves to ramp into early Planeswalkers rather than critters.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    Reveler seems like a decent way for Rakdos Burn to reload. The Colossus seems halfway decent in draft; you need at least two gates in play for it to be reasonably priced, but it's easy to build around, and follows the Guild Summit design where it gets value from your gates both before and after it hits.

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Reveler seems like a decent way for Rakdos Burn to reload.

    I honestly think Risk Factor and Sword-Point Diplomacy are just better than Reveler, but I will surely be trying it out.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Kay wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Reveler seems like a decent way for Rakdos Burn to reload.

    I honestly think Risk Factor and Sword-Point Diplomacy are just better than Reveler, but I will surely be trying it out.

    The flexibility makes it worth a shot at least; it's a split card that can help smooth out early hands (while being a bear) as well as reloading later on.

    Plus there's no reason you can't use both Reveler and Risk Factor; they play well together.

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    IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Reveler seems okay. Decent option on both "sides" and things with bodies can't be discounted. Rafter Demon is fuckin' terrible. Like, not even in draft playable.

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    reveler does not seem great but maybe it will be ok in new builds of phoenix for standard since you can loot them away even without spectacle?

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    jgeis wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Unless you play Standard, in which case it does almost nothing. (Unless one of the other guilds' mechanic is a discount; Spectacle only is sometimes.)

    It forces Convoke to use at least one land to cast anything, and prevents explosive March of the Multitudes.

    Also stops any creature-based ramp into non-creatures, which isn't totally insignificant. Can't cast a planeswalker or whatever ahead of curve off a Llanowar Elves.

    I did say almost nothing, but yes those are specific cases I have overlooked that do help her out.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Unless you play Standard, in which case it does almost nothing. (Unless one of the other guilds' mechanic is a discount; Spectacle only is sometimes.)

    It forces Convoke to use at least one land to cast anything, and prevents explosive March of the Multitudes.

    Also stops any creature-based ramp into non-creatures, which isn't totally insignificant. Can't cast a planeswalker or whatever ahead of curve off a Llanowar Elves.

    I did say almost nothing, but yes those are specific cases I have overlooked that do help her out.

    Her uses in Standard are definitely a bit more limited but I would definitely run a couple copies in my sideboard.

    In Vintage she'd be a monster on turn one. No more Forces, Dazes, Moxes, or Lotuses from your opponent is pretty strong.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Yeah her Eternal applications are deep as hell. She even shuts off most of the best parts of Workshop-style lands.

    Hoses Tron pretty badly too but that's a given at this point.

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    IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    edited December 2018
    Plus, she's asymmetrical. Don't give a FUCK about you slinging out Moxes or Force of Wills (which you can use copies of her for because she's also blue!)

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    BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    New Orzhov mechanic: Afterlife N (When this creature dies, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Ohhhh another hate bear for Vintage Bant hate bears

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    Fun fact: Lavinia can't stop you from Forking whatever you want.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    New Orzhov mechanic: Afterlife N (When this creature dies, create N 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)

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    Hey, it could be create an N/N spirit token rather than N 1/1 spirit tokens! But probably not.

    Also, afterlife works well with spectacle. I wonder if Azorius will get a mechanic based around flying, what with Domri Rade's ornithopter thing? Or maybe small bodies. Hmm.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    I'm not feeling the spectacle cards that you pay extra for more right now. Feel a bit too win-more for my tastes. I'd rather get a card that I would normally play and then get an occasional tempo turn where it's cheaper.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    jgeis wrote: »
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    That, uh, that's a pretty good hate bear.

    Is the reason why the card looks so special because that character is going against the will of their guild?

    Cause that's neat if so.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
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    That, uh, that's a pretty good hate bear.

    Is the reason why the card looks so special because that character is going against the will of their guild?

    Cause that's neat if so.

    It's one of the full-art promos they do for events, in this case the store championship. It'll have a regular version in the set.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    yeah the promo art looks really nice this time around. The Firewheeler up there is one, and Seb MicKinnon's Growth Spiral is stunning

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    edit: also Mortify!
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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Holy moly Mortify is good.

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    One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    So I've been playing Arena for the past couple of weeks and having an excellent time. I'm not super well-versed in Magic (i just played one of the Duels of the Planeswalkers games a few years ago) but I netdecked a v fun aggro mono-red deck and it's just been fabulous tbqh. I'm still running a couple of replacements for rares I don't have yet but I hope to get it filled out before too long.

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    So I've been playing Arena for the past couple of weeks and having an excellent time. I'm not super well-versed in Magic (i just played one of the Duels of the Planeswalkers games a few years ago) but I netdecked a v fun aggro mono-red deck and it's just been fabulous tbqh. I'm still running a couple of replacements for rares I don't have yet but I hope to get it filled out before too long.

    Good to hear you're enjoying the game, @One Thousand Cables! Let us know how your road to completing mono-red goes. Solid deck for best of one ladder, with some fun lines of play.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I've been tuning/blowing wildcards into a Sarpoling/sacrifice deck for a while, and then moved into straight saprolings rush, and noticed after this latest tuning was going really well, it's also a real budget deck atm.

    I'm down to 5 rares, 3 of which come in the starter decks. ( Just wish I woulda figured this version out a lot sooner before I blew rare and mythic wildcards on stuff that didn't work! oh well)

    Try this out , I am thrashing most decks with it, only real problem is full out multi sweeper decks, but even those aren't a total blowout.
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I like multiple Poison-tip Archers/Slimefoot to deal with sweepers (except for Settle).

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    My therapy lady says I should be more social, so last night I went out to Modern night at my LGS with my one paper modern deck (Tron). I only scraped one match win against Phoenix/Thing, lost to Infect and another Phoenix/Thing, but I’d forgotten how fun it could be, “it” being playing paper, playing Modern, and playing Tron. The deck gets a lot of shit slung at it but it’s fun to work out the optimal sequences and how to spend your mana early on, at least for me being out of practice with the format.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Poison-tip Archer is so good.

    PTA+Slimefoot on board makes a saproling rush into a no win situation for your opponent real quick.

    Or have some kind of sac outlet and just murder your own saprolings to kill them.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    I’m still waiting for a good mana-free sac outlet to make all the current Aristocrats pieces in standard shine.

    Come on, Orzhov, get Cartel Aristocrat out of retirement.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    Poison-tip Archer is so good.

    PTA+Slimefoot on board makes a saproling rush into a no win situation for your opponent real quick.

    Or have some kind of sac outlet and just murder your own saprolings to kill them.

    Ya I'm still working on the sac heavy poison tip version but that wants even more wild to test but I ran out.

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Hey look, the guild kit basics and the packaging!

    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/ravnica-allegiance-promos-and-packaging-2018-12-17

    I like the Simic Forest and both Azorius ones, but the Orhov Plains feels like it's giving off the wrong mood for some reason.
    Kudos to the Rakdos Swamp for not depicting the undercity yet again.

    BUT LOOK AT THAT PACK COLOR! The blue guilds look ok on it, obviously, but the rest just look awful, particularly that Rakdos jester.

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    KayKay What we need... Is a little bit of PANIC.Registered User regular
    How dare you say such things about our Lord and Lady Saviour, Judith the Massacre Woman.

    She gonna cut ya.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Domri's got quite the sneer going on his walker deck package.

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    ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Domri's got quite the sneer going on his walker deck package.

    He's going through his Billy Idol stage.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
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    Orzhov continues its tradition of having awesome visual design.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Man.

    I really miss extort and was hoping for that keyword to come back.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2018
    it'll depend on getting a critical mass of Afterlife creatures with a good rate, but a whole guild of creatures that create tokens when they die might make Divine Visitation more than a janky experiment.

    edit: like in terms of board resilience, token-on-death is a different axis from making a huge board a la March of the Multitudes or ETB tokens like Yavimaya Shepherd. Tokens are notoriously easy to boardwipe, but if everyone has build-in wipe protection then it's much easier to confidently go wide.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    I hate extort so good riddance!

    I may feel different if I had any extort cards, myself, but alas. To the void with you extort.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Man.

    I really miss extort and was hoping for that keyword to come back.

    As much as I agree with the first part, the unbalanced nature of extort in multiplayer games makes it a bit contentious. It's only a 6 on MaRo's Storm Scale and there have been bigger longshots that saw returns, but I was definitely not expecting it to show up for this go-round.

    Afterlife is obnoxious (I hate when I have to kill something twice -- or more) but feels fine? It certainly doesn't seem to add any mana to the cost, which is nice.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    I hate extort so good riddance!

    I may feel different if I had any extort cards, myself, but alas. To the void with you extort.

    There are only like, 5 cards with extort on them and 3 of them aren't that good.

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