Like...I get it, I also don't talk politics with my friends all the time, and it's possible that I'm friends with some actual hateful people that I don't know about. But at the same time, Black Metal has suuuuch a rotten reputation for being filled with racists, fascists, bigots and other assholes that just once I would love to see someone with Nergal's clout say 'I didn't realize this guy had associations with Nazism and so fuck that guy.'
Nergal is a big dumb idiot. Probably not directly fash, but only because he's kind of a vapid dummy and doesn't really consider politics at all.
During the world cup he posted some extremely racist shit saying essentially, if I remember correctly, "sports are for meatheads, and Africans are better at them anyway! Who cares if Poland loses a soccer match? We should be concentrating on art which we are good at!". Pretty much the same shit you'd expect to hear from Varg. Then he whined about how he didn't understand why people were mad, and that it wasn't racist.
If that kind of stuff detracts from the music for you, there's plenty pointing to him being a giant moron over the years.
Like...I get it, I also don't talk politics with my friends all the time, and it's possible that I'm friends with some actual hateful people that I don't know about. But at the same time, Black Metal has suuuuch a rotten reputation for being filled with racists, fascists, bigots and other assholes that just once I would love to see someone with Nergal's clout say 'I didn't realize this guy had associations with Nazism and so fuck that guy.'
Nergal is a big dumb idiot. Probably not directly fash, but only because he's kind of a vapid dummy and doesn't really consider politics at all.
During the world cup he posted some extremely racist shit saying essentially, if I remember correctly, "sports are for meatheads, and Africans are better at them anyway! Who cares if Poland loses a soccer match? We should be concentrating on art which we are good at!". Pretty much the same shit you'd expect to hear from Varg. Then he whined about how he didn't understand why people were mad, and that it wasn't racist.
If that kind of stuff detracts from the music for you, there's plenty pointing to him being a giant moron over the years.
Took me 10 whole minutes to find the original picture he posted and someone complaining about it in June.
Metalsucks... sucks. The way they approach this stuff is so fucking lazy. Their writing is such garbage.
Well then. As someone who wears a Behemoth shirt at least two days out of the week this is a fucking bummer.
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Good god what is that
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You’re right. That was way more offensive than Nergal being a tool.
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@autothrallVanik finally got its art added. Realized that they had a bandcamp release with it (with a different art too) so I was able to add that in there.
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edit: apparently, according to a youtube comment so YMMV, the video is an animated version of the origin story for Scientology? weird.
I know this was a few days ago but this didn't really sit with me very well the first time through
It's grown on me, and I'm really loving this. It's more melodic than the last two albums, almost seems like a Figure Number Five Redux, but it's got a really unique sound to it.
The 3 songs I've heard so far are better than anything off FnF, so I'm still really looking forward to it.
(Also I'm a total fangirl for Bjorn's vocals, dude's a fucking superstar)
Now I'm checking out the new Peste Noire album, which is going to piss absolutely everyone off.
That cover though...
Either way, its an interesting concept. I'm gonna check it out too
It will be interesting to see if he rationalizes doing it because of a genuine interest in the American South and trap music (which is featured prominently on half the album, I'm not kidding), or if he's simply trying to be Famine the Provocateur which he usually achieves about a dozen times before breakfast. He is often pretty surprising at times with his insights. But at any rate, yeah, that cover...ouch.
The first half of the conceptual 'split' is actually pretty good Peste Noire black metal. The trap-fueled stuff still has a lot of evil riffs and atmosphere on it, but the French rap vocals will take some getting used to.
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Speaking of The Night Flight Orchestra, their first two albums got reissued by Nuclear Blast recently in case anyone wanted to seek them out. Their debut album was the only one I didn't own until I discovered it had been reissued.
It will be interesting to see if he rationalizes doing it because of a genuine interest in the American South and trap music (which is featured prominently on half the album, I'm not kidding), or if he's simply trying to be Famine the Provocateur which he usually achieves about a dozen times before breakfast. He is often pretty surprising at times with his insights. But at any rate, yeah, that cover...ouch.
The first half of the conceptual 'split' is actually pretty good Peste Noire black metal. The trap-fueled stuff still has a lot of evil riffs and atmosphere on it, but the French rap vocals will take some getting used to.
I can definitely see the argument that it's him trying to piss EVERYBODY off though calling the second half the 'Degenerate Part' and having it co-released with an NSBM label makes it a hard argument.
I can definitely see the argument that it's him trying to piss EVERYBODY off though calling the second half the 'Degenerate Part' and having it co-released with an NSBM label makes it a hard argument.
Either way, this first half is really good though
Yeah, you are right, it's what the guy does.
In other news, now that I've listened to "I Am Above" about 45 times, I can safely say it's my favorite In Flames tune in a decade.
Sorry, I don't buy the "pissing off both sides" anymore. Even if it was true ten years ago, a quick detour by his facebook page clearly shows that he's very much on one side now.....
The second half is definitely interesting... By far the most experimental that I've seen Peste Noire go. I think I like the first half a little bit more though. Still a solid album
So my birthday was a few days back, and my brother's girlfriend, who knows next to nothing about metal, gifted me three CD's that she picked out solely based on how they looked. The first two, Ensiferum's latest Two Paths and a Cattle Decapitation B-sides compilation, I'll probably spin once and then set aside, but the third is freaking Inquisition. It's a super cool digipack release of Invoking the Majestic Throne of Satan. I haven't gotten to it yet since I've been spending my free time rereading The Malazan Book of the Fallen and listening to Immortal, but I'm very surprised to have gotten such a cult album from someone so foreign to the metal scene.
Great list as always, @autothrall. I was totally not expecting to see Uriah Heep on there; I guess I'll need to check that out. Also, it sure is nice to see Voivod back on top.
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All these folks trying to be the Hiroo Onoda of the Loudness War...
Nice list(s). The Skeletal Remains blew me away and I'm currently rocking out to the Alastor record right now (already showed it to my friend who is a big Uncle Acid fan and she loved it).
Got a non-metal list and/or an extended hierarchical list hiding around? I do miss those from previous years
My mom listens to Susan Boyle and Enya, so count yourself lucky.
My mum is pretty rock, only sometimes but it definitely does happen. She's a huge Elvis fan, and came with me - voluntarily - to see Iron Maiden once. Slayer were supporting for that show*. So she has credentials!
I just kind of wish she'd thought (well, said) this a couple of years ago before Black Sabbath called it a day and did their farewell shows.
* - she wasn't into Slayer, too much for her but I've reminded her to name drop them if she needs a bit of rock cred.
Nice list(s). The Skeletal Remains blew me away and I'm currently rocking out to the Alastor record right now (already showed it to my friend who is a big Uncle Acid fan and she loved it).
Got a non-metal list and/or an extended hierarchical list hiding around? I do miss those from previous years
Oh, sorry, I had my non metal list on my Facebook (along with most of my year's end lists for games, movies, TV shows, comics). I don't have scores for these.
18. King Dude - Music to Make War To
17. Antimatter - Black Market Enlightenment
16. Slasher Dave - Frights
15. Meat Beat Manifesto - Impossible Star
14. Deadlife - The Order of Chaos
13. Kontinuum - No Need to Reason
12. Carpenter Brut - Leather Teeth
11. Hank von Hell - Egomaniac
10. MGMT - Little Dark Age
09. Kimbra - Primal Heart
08. Strvngers - Amor/Noir
07. Markus Junnikkala - Eldritch
06. Ur Pale - Water Tombs & Crimson Horizons
05. Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik - Hugsjá
04. Oberon - Aeon Chaser
03. Night Flight Orchestra - Sometimes the World Ain't Enough
02. Anna Von Hausswolff - Dead Magic
01. TIE BETWEEN Rhys Fulber - Your Dystopia, My Utopia AND Frontline Assembly - Warmech, TWO ALBUMS BY THE SAME DUDE!
For the extended hierarchical I only have down to #36 (including the one addition I made on New Year's Eve):
19. Judas Priest (UK) - Firepower (87)
20. Primordial (Ie) - Exile Among the Ruins (87)
21. Summoning (At) - With Doom We come (87)
22. Wytch Hazel (UK) - II: Sojourn (87)
23. Evoken (US) - Hypnagogia (87)
24. Trespass (UK) - Footprints in the Rock (87)
25. Lychgate (De) - The Contagion in Nine Steps (85)
26. Slugdge (UK) - Esoteric Malacology (85)
27. Deathhammer (No) - Chained to Hell (85)
28. Saxon (UK) - Thunderbolt (85)
29. Obliteration (No) - Cenotaph Obscure (85)
30. Ritual Necromancy (US) - Disinterred Horror (85)
31. Atroce (Ca) - Necromantiaea Bestialis (85)
32. Madder Mortem (No) - Marrow (85)
33. Moonreich (Fr) - Fugue (85)
34. Chapel of Disease (De) - And as We Have Seen the Storm, We Have Embraced the Eye (85)
35. Witching Hour (De) - And Silent Grief Shadows the Passing Moon (85)
36. Outer Heaven (US) - Realms of Eternal Decay (85)
Were you as disappointed with the new Orbital as I was? That first single was pretty cool, but I just couldn't get into the rest of it. I should probably give the new Aphex Twin another listen too.
All these folks trying to be the Hiroo Onoda of the Loudness War...
Were you as disappointed with the new Orbital as I was? That first single was pretty cool, but I just couldn't get into the rest of it. I should probably give the new Aphex Twin another listen too.
I didn't like either of them nearly as much as I've loved past releases. The Orbital had a few decent tunes but not enough to make it on my list, also it has great cover art, definitely going for an In Sides-ish presentation.
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So uh,
I'm totally into Epica and symphonic metal
That's cool right?
I'll see myself out
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I am of the opinion that the 2003 self-titled Strapping Young Lad is their best album and one of the heaviest albums ever recorded.
What day you, heshers?
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As a somewhat trained tenor/counter-tenor (lots of choir in school, and an old boss that did regional opera and had me on a training regimen) that was once tasked to be human guideline/pitch pipe for a mezzosoprano, I love me some classically influenced vocalists of either sex.
In the prog-rock cover band I used to front I styled my delivery primarily on Roy Khan of Conception/Kamelot (god, I wished I has his tone color on the lower end of my register), Geoff Tate, and Michael Kiske (yes, I do indeed have testicles, why do you ask?).
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Man, Kamelot hasn't been the same since Roy Khan left. Is there another band that is comparable to them in their prime, e.g. their Epica/The Black Halo cycle?
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But I did own a Trans Am once...
Edit: damn, that's an awkward totp!
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Nergal is a big dumb idiot. Probably not directly fash, but only because he's kind of a vapid dummy and doesn't really consider politics at all.
During the world cup he posted some extremely racist shit saying essentially, if I remember correctly, "sports are for meatheads, and Africans are better at them anyway! Who cares if Poland loses a soccer match? We should be concentrating on art which we are good at!". Pretty much the same shit you'd expect to hear from Varg. Then he whined about how he didn't understand why people were mad, and that it wasn't racist.
If that kind of stuff detracts from the music for you, there's plenty pointing to him being a giant moron over the years.
E: warning, racist as fuck shit: https://mobile.twitter.com/VictimOvChanges/status/1009176115745718272
Took me 10 whole minutes to find the original picture he posted and someone complaining about it in June.
Metalsucks... sucks. The way they approach this stuff is so fucking lazy. Their writing is such garbage.
I bust out the jorts when it's time to wash the jet-ski. Crack open a Hams and it's time to pre-party.
Well then. As someone who wears a Behemoth shirt at least two days out of the week this is a fucking bummer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99LRvS3MF1s
Infernal fuckin H A I L Z
Krieg-ass bm
I know this was a few days ago but this didn't really sit with me very well the first time through
It's grown on me, and I'm really loving this. It's more melodic than the last two albums, almost seems like a Figure Number Five Redux, but it's got a really unique sound to it.
The 3 songs I've heard so far are better than anything off FnF, so I'm still really looking forward to it.
(Also I'm a total fangirl for Bjorn's vocals, dude's a fucking superstar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVtMiXEg2CI
Now I'm checking out the new Peste Noire album, which is going to piss absolutely everyone off.
That cover though...
Either way, its an interesting concept. I'm gonna check it out too
It will be interesting to see if he rationalizes doing it because of a genuine interest in the American South and trap music (which is featured prominently on half the album, I'm not kidding), or if he's simply trying to be Famine the Provocateur which he usually achieves about a dozen times before breakfast. He is often pretty surprising at times with his insights. But at any rate, yeah, that cover...ouch.
The first half of the conceptual 'split' is actually pretty good Peste Noire black metal. The trap-fueled stuff still has a lot of evil riffs and atmosphere on it, but the French rap vocals will take some getting used to.
Is this going to be the new Attack Attack
I can definitely see the argument that it's him trying to piss EVERYBODY off though calling the second half the 'Degenerate Part' and having it co-released with an NSBM label makes it a hard argument.
Either way, this first half is really good though
Yeah, you are right, it's what the guy does.
In other news, now that I've listened to "I Am Above" about 45 times, I can safely say it's my favorite In Flames tune in a decade.
I wonder if he'll be back to the UK any time soon, and not just for a fucking festival. C'mon, Ozzy. Arena tour please.
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So my birthday was a few days back, and my brother's girlfriend, who knows next to nothing about metal, gifted me three CD's that she picked out solely based on how they looked. The first two, Ensiferum's latest Two Paths and a Cattle Decapitation B-sides compilation, I'll probably spin once and then set aside, but the third is freaking Inquisition. It's a super cool digipack release of Invoking the Majestic Throne of Satan. I haven't gotten to it yet since I've been spending my free time rereading The Malazan Book of the Fallen and listening to Immortal, but I'm very surprised to have gotten such a cult album from someone so foreign to the metal scene.
Great list as always, @autothrall. I was totally not expecting to see Uriah Heep on there; I guess I'll need to check that out. Also, it sure is nice to see Voivod back on top.
Got a non-metal list and/or an extended hierarchical list hiding around? I do miss those from previous years
My mum is pretty rock, only sometimes but it definitely does happen. She's a huge Elvis fan, and came with me - voluntarily - to see Iron Maiden once. Slayer were supporting for that show*. So she has credentials!
I just kind of wish she'd thought (well, said) this a couple of years ago before Black Sabbath called it a day and did their farewell shows.
* - she wasn't into Slayer, too much for her but I've reminded her to name drop them if she needs a bit of rock cred.
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Oh, sorry, I had my non metal list on my Facebook (along with most of my year's end lists for games, movies, TV shows, comics). I don't have scores for these.
18. King Dude - Music to Make War To
17. Antimatter - Black Market Enlightenment
16. Slasher Dave - Frights
15. Meat Beat Manifesto - Impossible Star
14. Deadlife - The Order of Chaos
13. Kontinuum - No Need to Reason
12. Carpenter Brut - Leather Teeth
11. Hank von Hell - Egomaniac
10. MGMT - Little Dark Age
09. Kimbra - Primal Heart
08. Strvngers - Amor/Noir
07. Markus Junnikkala - Eldritch
06. Ur Pale - Water Tombs & Crimson Horizons
05. Ivar Bjørnson & Einar Selvik - Hugsjá
04. Oberon - Aeon Chaser
03. Night Flight Orchestra - Sometimes the World Ain't Enough
02. Anna Von Hausswolff - Dead Magic
01. TIE BETWEEN Rhys Fulber - Your Dystopia, My Utopia AND Frontline Assembly - Warmech, TWO ALBUMS BY THE SAME DUDE!
For the extended hierarchical I only have down to #36 (including the one addition I made on New Year's Eve):
19. Judas Priest (UK) - Firepower (87)
20. Primordial (Ie) - Exile Among the Ruins (87)
21. Summoning (At) - With Doom We come (87)
22. Wytch Hazel (UK) - II: Sojourn (87)
23. Evoken (US) - Hypnagogia (87)
24. Trespass (UK) - Footprints in the Rock (87)
25. Lychgate (De) - The Contagion in Nine Steps (85)
26. Slugdge (UK) - Esoteric Malacology (85)
27. Deathhammer (No) - Chained to Hell (85)
28. Saxon (UK) - Thunderbolt (85)
29. Obliteration (No) - Cenotaph Obscure (85)
30. Ritual Necromancy (US) - Disinterred Horror (85)
31. Atroce (Ca) - Necromantiaea Bestialis (85)
32. Madder Mortem (No) - Marrow (85)
33. Moonreich (Fr) - Fugue (85)
34. Chapel of Disease (De) - And as We Have Seen the Storm, We Have Embraced the Eye (85)
35. Witching Hour (De) - And Silent Grief Shadows the Passing Moon (85)
36. Outer Heaven (US) - Realms of Eternal Decay (85)
enya absolutely slays tho
Well she was great back on the demos, before she started taking off the corpse paint.
Were you as disappointed with the new Orbital as I was? That first single was pretty cool, but I just couldn't get into the rest of it. I should probably give the new Aphex Twin another listen too.
I didn't like either of them nearly as much as I've loved past releases. The Orbital had a few decent tunes but not enough to make it on my list, also it has great cover art, definitely going for an In Sides-ish presentation.
I'm totally into Epica and symphonic metal
That's cool right?
I'll see myself out
What day you, heshers?
I've always preferred City and The New Black, myself. The two albums in between never did much for me.
That's fine. For me, a little symphonic metal goes a long way.
All metal is accepted 🙏🏼 namaste 🙏🏼
Yes, it's very cool.
As a somewhat trained tenor/counter-tenor (lots of choir in school, and an old boss that did regional opera and had me on a training regimen) that was once tasked to be human guideline/pitch pipe for a mezzosoprano, I love me some classically influenced vocalists of either sex.
In the prog-rock cover band I used to front I styled my delivery primarily on Roy Khan of Conception/Kamelot (god, I wished I has his tone color on the lower end of my register), Geoff Tate, and Michael Kiske (yes, I do indeed have testicles, why do you ask?).
~ Buckaroo Banzai